Okay,  guys.  I'm confused. Are version #s (like v1, v2, etc.)  not the same as the color variations? I thought that's what v1, v2, etc meant,  but it seems like there's v1 1-6, then v2 1-6, and so on...?

Let's take it from the top, shall we?

V1 - First edition.  Two decks in black (Mirror deck) and white (Smoke deck).  No deck seal.
V2 - Special edition.  Same as above with slight back design changes.
V3 - Luxury edition.  Same as above with slight back design changes.
http://playingcards.wikidot.com/smoke-mirror:v1-v2-v3

V4 - Eco edition.  Pre-released at a convention with a D&D sticker deck seal, later released without sticker for sale at large.  One deck in green, stripped down design.
V5 - Paper denim edition.  Same design as v4 but in green BLUE.  No deck seal.
V6 - Rouge edition.  Same as above but in red.

V7 - the "farewell tribute", featuring reprints of v3 (both), v4, v5 and v6, plus the new Carbon deck of the same design as 4-7.  These decks had perforated deck seals and standard faces instead of the unique S&M face design.

Reserve Edition: whatever the hell this thing is...

Quote from: Sher143 on January 03, 2014, 06:21:58 PM

Okay,  guys.  I'm confused. Are version #s (like v1, v2, etc.)  not the same as the color variations? I thought that's what v1, v2, etc meant,  but it seems like there's v1 1-6, then v2 1-6, and so on...?

There is an original v1-6 v7 was an entire box set a remake of v3-6 plus the new carbon deck.

Quote from: Sher143 on January 03, 2014, 06:21:58 PM

Okay,  guys.  I'm confused. Are version #s (like v1, v2, etc.)  not the same as the color variations? I thought that's what v1, v2, etc meant,  but it seems like there's v1 1-6, then v2 1-6, and so on...?

Let's take it from the top, shall we?

V1 - First edition.  Two decks in black (Mirror deck) and white (Smoke deck).  No deck seal.
V2 - Special edition.  Same as above with slight back design changes.
V3 - Luxury edition.  Same as above with slight back design changes.
http://playingcards.wikidot.com/smoke-mirror:v1-v2-v3

V4 - Eco edition.  Pre-released at a convention with a D&D sticker deck seal, later released without sticker for sale at large.  One deck in green, stripped down design.
V5 - Paper denim edition.  Same design as v4 but in green.  No deck seal.
V6 - Rouge edition.  Same as above but in red.

V7 - the "farewell tribute", featuring reprints of v3 (both), v4, v5 and v6, plus the new Carbon deck of the same design as 4-7.  These decks had perforated deck seals and standard faces instead of the unique S&M face design.

Reserve Edition: whatever the hell this thing is...

Thanks so much for the clarification, Gunshy1 and Don!

I'm a new collector and I don't have any of the smoke and mirrors decks. If I were to get one, I would get this version. I have a thing for white and gold decks...

Quote from: Sparkz on January 03, 2014, 09:09:37 AM

Gotta love it.......

And here they are http://loopcuts.com/smoke-mirror-gold-reserve/

I shall eat my hat now...

Prove it!

Quote from: Don Boyer on January 03, 2014, 07:19:08 PM

V5 - Paper denim edition.  Same design as v4 but in green.  No deck seal.

I think this might be one of the few times anyone can correctly correct Don.  ... But do you mean "V5 - Paper denim edition.  Same design as v4 but in blue.  No deck seal.."?

I think the Reserve Edition would, honestly, mean anything if it was only sent out to DOTM members and for contest/giveaway and are the Buck Twins' private stock. If it's just being sold like any other S&M, then it honestly doesn't mean much besides just fancy advertisement. But honestly, I do love the packaging in this deck. It is amazing, but it's just sad it's another re-colour.

I get corrected often.  I'm not infallible.  That was a simple typo, but I've been wrong on facts as well.  My ego doesn't get in the way of my desire to know the truth.

It's a shame, indeed.  But as long as there's sheeple to buy, there's people to sell.  Gorgeous box, boring deck, made even more so by stripping away the unique S&M faces.  But hey, it's SHINY!  Woo AND hoo!

I just wish people would drop the "cigarette box" references.  Does it vaguely resemble a cigarette box?  Sure, but perhaps from days gone by.  It's just a flip-top box - and it's not even the first deck to employ a flip-top box, though it is to my knowledge the first to do so and be side-loading, at least among modern custom decks.  Bent Castle Workshops released their Pegleg Pete decks, Extraordinary Voyages decks and I think a few more using just such a box.  The construction of the BCW boxes is insanely sturdy, with walls that are thicker and stronger than on any measly old tuck box I've ever seen.  It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this deck's box had similar construction properties.

It's not a very practical tuck design though, is it? The connection point of the flap/top will probably get worn pretty quickly from all the bending because you have to bend it really far back to get the whole deck out, even more so since it's angled downwards.

This deck is not intended for public release. Elliott posted on Loopcuts and Dave said it on Coffee. But just between us, I still think these will hit the market at one point or another.

Marketing 101.  Limit accessibility to increase desire.  They're printing the cards, releasing detailed pics and saying, look how nice these are, aren't they just dandy?  Oh, and BTW, you can't have them.  They're for our super secret squirrel club, never to be released to the general public.

They will release some in a limited method, part of their mixed bricks or buy XXX amount and get our Secret Squirrel S&M deck free.   Then sometime later there will be the statement, "Due to popular demand, and that we just happened to "find" some crates in our warehouse, right by the front door, marked 'To be released to general public on XX Date' we will be releasing these to you all.  Just $44.95 a deck, get 'em now while they last as we won't be printing any more S&M decks."   

I have not bought a deck from D&D since the New Fan Back release.

Who do you think makes more money? D&D by making this rare deck and only allowing a few people to get ONE OR Ellusionist who let's people have more then one rare deck as long as they buy a brick or join black club? Seems to me if D&D wants to make money let the customers have a chance to get some. There is a perfect price for every product to maximize total income. $44.95 On ITS OWN would not maximize income because it would stop some from buying them. It would also take much longer to sell them. You have to strike while the product is hot in this industry. I'm sure D&D has the math worked out.

If it were me, a killer promotion for D&D would be giving one Gold Reserve away with every Juan Tamariz DVD Set. I was already going to pick up the DVD set anyway. Adding a free deck would kick some major ass!

I just wish people would drop the "cigarette box" references.  Does it vaguely resemble a cigarette box?  Sure, but perhaps from days gone by.

But the "Smoke" and Mirrors puns are just too good to resist. 

That being said, it almost looks like you need to tear along a 3-point  perforation to open it. Actually kind of cool.
The gold foil reminds me of the Arrco Tahoes. Maybe they were trying to emulate those?

I guess I'm the only one that liked the Bruce Lee release lol.

Anyone know if these are factory sealed in cellophane?

I was told it would be part of a promotion.