It is not surprising to hear The Buck Twins coming with the new decks . However, I'm still looking forward to the Magic Con v2 and v7 . I believe the quality would be much better!
is the magic con deck will be sold at their website or they just sell at magic con only?
It is not surprising to hear The Buck Twins coming with the new decks . However, I'm still looking forward to the Magic Con v2 and v7 . I believe the quality would be much better!
It's not the quality that people complain about with their decks. It's the reduced amount of originality that goes into the design that throws a wrench in the works from my perspective. I've ranted about that elsewhere - go check it out.
I'm interested in their new decks. Can't honestly say I'm looking forward to them, though. There's enough solidly original designs either out now or in the pipeline that interest me far more. For D&D, it's wait-n-see.is the magic con deck will be sold at their website or they just sell at magic con only?
This is only a guess, but I'd say Magic-Con first, with the leftovers going to the D&D store. It's even possible depending on size of print run and convention attendance that they'll sell out before it ever reaches the store.
It is not surprising to hear The Buck Twins coming with the new decks . However, I'm still looking forward to the Magic Con v2 and v7 . I believe the quality would be much better!
It's not the quality that people complain about with their decks. It's the reduced amount of originality that goes into the design that throws a wrench in the works from my perspective. I've ranted about that elsewhere - go check it out.
I'm interested in their new decks. Can't honestly say I'm looking forward to them, though. There's enough solidly original designs either out now or in the pipeline that interest me far more. For D&D, it's wait-n-see.is the magic con deck will be sold at their website or they just sell at magic con only?
This is only a guess, but I'd say Magic-Con first, with the leftovers going to the D&D store. It's even possible depending on size of print run and convention attendance that they'll sell out before it ever reaches the store.
However, I'll like to point out the decreasing quality that Dan and Dave's decks are coming out with. The Fulton Clip Joints were the first D&D deck that I got. To be frank, I was really excited on the decks as there was countless of good reviews on the previous Fantastique decks and the Smoke and Mirrors. However, I quickly realized that the FCJ were one of worst decks I handled. After getting the FCJ, I got the v5 and v6 to see how they felt and they felt leaps and bounds better than them. I don't know about the Chinatown deck, cause I didn't see the need to get such another deck.
is the magic con deck will be sold at their website or they just sell at magic con only?
Really, that is not the response I received from their website.
Let's just say that it contradicts what the Bucks supposedly said on their Twitter about their site selling them.
Let's just say that it contradicts what the Bucks supposedly said on their Twitter about their site selling them.anep21 said that he got an email saying that the Magic*Con decks will not be available on the Dan and Dave website. You said you got an email and say that it contradicts what was said on their Twitter about their site selling them. Why the vagueness? The tweet says, "We have several new decks in the works including a Magic-Con deck and the long awaiting v7." - nothing about their website or where the decks will or will not be sold.
I fully understand where your coming from. With the huge influx of fully customized decks, it is now quite unacceptable to change the AoS, Jokers and Back design anymore. I totally agree that with the huge amount of custom decks coming out, we really do have to be picky on what we buy.
However, I'll like to point out the decreasing quality that Dan and Dave's decks are coming out with. The Fulton Clip Joints were the first D&D deck that I got. To be frank, I was really excited on the decks as there was countless of good reviews on the previous Fantastique decks and the Smoke and Mirrors. However, I quickly realized that the FCJ were one of worst decks I handled. After getting the FCJ, I got the v5 and v6 to see how they felt and they felt leaps and bounds better than them. I don't know about the Chinatown deck, cause I didn't see the need to get such another deck.
Which brings to my final point, Mr Boyer, I totally agree with the lack of originality that D&D have . However, being mainly a flourisher, my only hope is that the magic con decks and v7 can bring back the awesome quality that the buck twins were renowned for, with paying the huge price tag that the old S&M have. Fully custom decks would be a plus, but judging from D&D, I don't really think it suits their style. I don't really know how to explain it , but I could never really imagine the bucks playing around with like, The Vortex Deck for example.
LOL, okay this is not really a response to Mr Don Boyer's post, but just a piece of my mind that I had been keeping for a long time. I'm
Just hoping that D&D comes out with a good quality deck again, whether it is fully custom or not :D
but the v5 and v6 and plaid and fantastiqe and all that handle perfect because there dan and dave decks the clip joints and chinatown handle diffrent and worse because there brad fultons cards with his say of finish or stock everything that dan and dave make just them two is perfect quality always the plaids handle like a dream theres been no drop in quality for me you can rely on all there decks when its just them who made them
for me even if they bring out a lot of things there quality is always there and whatever there aiming for they do it well take the plaid with the old poker style swamp theme they did it perfect the box the cards the discoloured white the brighter reds the unique ad cards as well as everything else they have done fantastiqe with the animation on the back and the beautiful silver metallic ink
Let's just say that it contradicts what the Bucks supposedly said on their Twitter about their site selling them.
i dont think they said they will selling them at their website. that's why i asked
Well Don, I think you win for longest post ever... I believe you are right... So get prepared for a garbage Variety Box with a Magic Con II Deck (alongside the Studs and Aviators)...
It looks lik a foil box, with many "facets" that shine differently depeding on the angle of the light. I love it!
the lip balm looks cool
the lip balm looks cool
I'm very sorry to say this, but there is NO SUCH THING as cool lip balm! :))
For the record, as I mentioned before, I emailed Dan & Dave's website about the Magic Con decks and they told me that they would in fact be selling a small quantity and that anything anyone else was posting was incorrect.
Again vmagic seems to have the scoop... Must be all your connections... Nevermind what the Bucks say... Listen to vmagic...
Magic-Con Deck V2 will be released on Thursday! Check out the countdown here: http://shop.dananddave.com/
I really want to know the price though :bosswalk:
Magic-Con Deck V2 will be released on Thursday! Check out the countdown here: http://shop.dananddave.com/
I really want to know the price though :bosswalk:
As said on twitter by the buck twins. These cards(on site sales+magic con sales) will be available once magic con starts officially which is less than 2 days from now. So yes you can purchase them on the website.
I did not see any of these for sale yet. I know someone will probablt snap at me a "read the thread". I saw references to dog turd and what not and I gave up. I have the magic-con v1 which I plunked down $60 for but it is one of those decks I really like in my collection. I did have plans on going to magic con but I am currently dealing with a death in the family and will not attend. I have one prominent magician friend in my SAM club who is probably going but I failed in my attempts to contact him. Such is life. I will probably be one of those idiots who will pay a lot of money for it on Ebay. :-[Very sorry for your loss :(
Thank you very much for your kind words. It is appreciated. My father passed so it is quite sad. In regards to these cards, I thought the count down on DandD was just for the convention. Happy to hear it is possible I might be able to pick up a few of these decks. I will assume, being that I live on the east coast, I will need to guard my computer for a midinight release. If my wife catches on that I am making a card purchase, she will try to hog the computer until after the sale. Don, do you think I could send my wife to your house for the evening, she is not a good cook but she is very funny and speaks several languages.I did not see any of these for sale yet. I know someone will probablt snap at me a "read the thread". I saw references to dog turd and what not and I gave up. I have the magic-con v1 which I plunked down $60 for but it is one of those decks I really like in my collection. I did have plans on going to magic con but I am currently dealing with a death in the family and will not attend. I have one prominent magician friend in my SAM club who is probably going but I failed in my attempts to contact him. Such is life. I will probably be one of those idiots who will pay a lot of money for it on Ebay. :-[Very sorry for your loss :(
Thank you very much for your kind words. It is appreciated. My father passed so it is quite sad. In regards to these cards, I thought the count down on DandD was just for the convention. Happy to hear it is possible I might be able to pick up a few of these decks. I will assume, being that I live on the east coast, I will need to guard my computer for a midinight release. If my wife catches on that I am making a card purchase, she will try to hog the computer until after the sale. Don, do you think I could send my wife to your house for the evening, she is not a good cook but she is very funny and speaks several languages.I did not see any of these for sale yet. I know someone will probablt snap at me a "read the thread". I saw references to dog turd and what not and I gave up. I have the magic-con v1 which I plunked down $60 for but it is one of those decks I really like in my collection. I did have plans on going to magic con but I am currently dealing with a death in the family and will not attend. I have one prominent magician friend in my SAM club who is probably going but I failed in my attempts to contact him. Such is life. I will probably be one of those idiots who will pay a lot of money for it on Ebay. :-[Very sorry for your loss :(
Eggman... My condolences... You mentioned your wife doesn't cook and sense of humor and intelligence are great, but more importantly is she hot...:karrit:Yes, but after several years of marriage, food becomes more important than you would think.
I emailed Dan and Dave, they are being a little coy about the release saying "Sometime soon" in a email relply but it must be tonight, bastards.
Not late to the ball game, I just wanted to relate what they just sent me in an email. I guess they have there reasons.I emailed Dan and Dave, they are being a little coy about the release saying "Sometime soon" in a email relply but it must be tonight, bastards.
You're a little late to the game, bro - it's tonight, 8pm PDT. 11pm EDT, 03:00:00 Friday UTC.
How weird, if we are already tracking the release why would that be cryptic about it? OddThank you sand man for joining me in my dismay. I often wonder why Don B. (who I tend to like) feels the need to critique so many peoples post. Being a in the mental health Field, my assessment is he is lacking in the man hood department. Since he can not afford a (sorry about your penis car) I think this is the only way he consoles himself. Let me be clear, I do feel sorry for him for his condition, but I find it to be annoying at times. Still, let us have sympathy for him. Considering this forum is big on helping others financially, I would like to start at collection for his male enhancement surgery. Thanks in advance for your participation.
Thank you sand man for joining me in my dismay. I often wonder why Don B. (who I tend to like) feels the need to critique so many peoples post. Being a in the mental health Field, my assessment is he is lacking in the man hood department. Since he can not afford a (sorry about your penis car) I think this is the only way he consoles himself. Let me be clear, I do feel sorry for him for his condition, but I find it to be annoying at times. Still, let us have sympathy for him. Considering this forum is big on helping others financially, I would like to start at collection for his male enhancement surgery. Thanks in advance for your participation.
Lol. Hey Egg, what are your thoughts on the backs? I like the coloring but I am staggered by the one way back.
Lol. Hey Egg, what are your thoughts on the backs? I like the coloring but I am staggered by the one way back.Thank you sand man. I seem to like everything about these cards. I have a feeling they are going to be tough to get. Alright, I have to go back to sitting in the corner.
Anyway, let me be the first one to tell you all I told you so about them selling the cards on their website.(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16027720.jpg)
I doubt they will be in DOTM. It says quantity extremely limited on their website and that they will only be sold for 36 hours unless they sell out beforehand.We also know you can't get 600 decks printed by USPCC and Dan and Dave tend to overhype their products. Whether they have the decks in DOTM or not, they will definitely have extras.
Very strange, I was try to figure out how many decks left, 3 minutes ago, only 7 decks left, but now 250 decks available again, D&D just add in a new stocks for sale instead of keeping them ?I don't think they would do that. Chances are it is just a bug. But you never know when it comes to D&D.
anyone who was able to nab some be willing to sell me a couple? :( i got the time wrong too.I may be able to sell you some. Please PM me where you live
They sold out fast as hell. I see these going right up in value with their older brother.
Maybe I should buy it now just to be safe....So you passed on the 10$ sale and now, a couple minutes later you are willing to buy it for 50$+ ? I thought you were reasonable... :P
I guess he thinks these will be worth more than the V1's.... does that make sense?They sold out fast as hell. I see these going right up in value with their older brother.
It's likely. Someone has already listed one on ebay....... http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=320887390088
It's only a convention deck! There are hundreds of conventions every year, many with their own deck. The deck producers are laughing at you this very minute.
Maybe I should buy it now just to be safe....So you passed on the 10$ sale and now, a couple minutes later you are willing to buy it for 50$+ ? I thought you were reasonable... :P
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irony 1 |ˈīrənē; ˈiərnē| noun ( pl. -nies) the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effectMaybe I should buy it now just to be safe....So you passed on the 10$ sale and now, a couple minutes later you are willing to buy it for 50$+ ? I thought you were reasonable... :P
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lol
Anyone else think it's funny how the decks sold out a half hour before the scheduled release? :PUmmm....... no.
I think the targeted released time was 8pm PDT, and for some reason the deck was on sale at 7pm instead.
I would appreciate it if this stopped right now, and Don, please just ignore it, there is no sense in going back and forth with this kind of banter, it would do nothing except harm the Discourse community.
I think the targeted released time was 8pm PDT, and for some reason the deck was on sale at 7pm instead.
no their tweet said 7pm PST. im a tad bummed to see they sold out so fast cause i was working, but o well i guess.
Last night, the Magic-Con 2012 Edition Playing Cards SOLD OUT in a matter of minutes. Thank you!Don't they always do that?
For those of you who missed the release, don't be upset as you you will have a second chance to obtain these commemorative playing cards later this week.
We will post the next and final release window right here on our Facebook page shortly.
Sad for those who bought from ebay at insane prices. RESELLERS HOLD BACK YOUR STOCKS!
They always do.Last night, the Magic-Con 2012 Edition Playing Cards SOLD OUT in a matter of minutes. Thank you!Don't they always do that?
For those of you who missed the release, don't be upset as you you will have a second chance to obtain these commemorative playing cards later this week.
We will post the next and final release window right here on our Facebook page shortly.
Sad for those who bought from ebay at insane prices. RESELLERS HOLD BACK YOUR STOCKS!
I think I might try this when Tendril hits my store:
- LIMITED, get them now or they will be gone forever!!!!!!
week later
- OH WAIT I found some in the back room!! Get this final final limited batch!!
time passes
- Well wouldn't you know it!!?? I found some more in my sock drawer!! Get them now!
By step three I can sell them for $89.95 a piece!
Eh, it is a marketing method. There are many of them. But think about it this way...is it failing? No. Every V6 sold and so will these. If it isn't broke, why fix it? I would make as much money as I could as well. In all honesty, who wouldn't? Let's not try to play liked are mother Theresa and claim "I would never do that"...yes you wouldDid Lance Miller, CCC, Alex, or Paul do that? No. Will they? I doubt it. Are the Bucks more famous than them and have they release more products than them? Yes. Then why are they marketing in such an unfair way? Because they want to make more money.
Last night, the Magic-Con 2012 Edition Playing Cards SOLD OUT in a matter of minutes. Thank you!
For those of you who missed the release, don't be upset as you you will have a second chance to obtain these commemorative playing cards later this week.
We will post the next and final release window right here on our Facebook page shortly.
Sad for those who bought from ebay at insane prices. RESELLERS HOLD BACK YOUR STOCKS!
4pm Pacific Std Time
They say 4, so I would be on at 3 PST or PDT or whatever it is
4pm Pacific Std TimeThey say 4, so I would be on at 3 PST or PDT or whatever it is
HOLY FRAK! People!
Under current US law, Standard Time ends and Daylight Saving Time begins at 2am on the second Sunday in March except in the two places that don't observe Daylight Saving Time - Hawaii and Arizona (expect for Navajo Nation lands in Arizona, which observe DST). DST ends and Standard Time begins again at 2am on the first Sunday of November. Hawaii is in the Hawaii-Aleutian Time Zone, and Arizona is in the Mountain Time Zone.
In other words...
THERE IS NO "4PM PACIFIC STANDARD TIME" OR "4PM PST" THIS SUNDAY.
There will not be a "4pm Pacific Standard Time" in the US until 4pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012!
"Sunday at 4pm Pacific Time" will suffice. "Sunday at 4pm Pacific Daylight Time" is the more accurate statement. And the easiest statement for people who don't follow American conventions for summer/daylight saving time would be "Sunday 23:00 Universal Coordinated Time (UTC)," also known as "Sunday at 11pm Greenwich Mean Time (GMT)."
So, to really cut to the chase here:
The Magic-Con v2 deck will be available at 23:00 UTC, 7pm Eastern Daylight Time and 4pm Pacific Daylight Time TODAY, Sunday, April 15th!
Dan and dave tweeted 4pm PST in reply to wilko.
so how many hours from now until there released ?
so how many hours from now until there released ?
I think 15 hours from know, so UK time is, 12am, midnight.
i love you don !!! but dam 7am i am going to be late for school if i purchase the deck
Dude, your post made me feel very old.i love you don !!! but dam 7am i am going to be late for school if i purchase the deck
LOL, I traded my phone with my moms for a day so that i have data plan and could buy using her phone on my way to school.
i love you don !!! but dam 7am i am going to be late for school if i purchase the deckAt what time does school start for you? Mine starts at 8:05. Even with 45 minutes of commute to get there I would have just enough time to pick this deck up (although I do not wish to do so).
In singapore school starts officially at 7:15-7:45 depending which school you are in. If we are late we go for detentions(not cool)i love you don !!! but dam 7am i am going to be late for school if i purchase the deckAt what time does school start for you? Mine starts at 8:05. Even with 45 minutes of commute to get there I would have just enough time to pick this deck up (although I do not wish to do so).
That's an early starting time! Oh, detentions... I stopped caring about those back in middle school. :P I have a friend of mine who got 750 detentions in the year. Yup, you read that right, 3 times more detentions than school days... He got some every day for coming late to school, not doing his homework, being rude to the teachers etc. I haven't gotten nearly that many though.In singapore school starts officially at 7:15-7:45 depending which school you are in. If we are late we go for detentions(not cool)i love you don !!! but dam 7am i am going to be late for school if i purchase the deckAt what time does school start for you? Mine starts at 8:05. Even with 45 minutes of commute to get there I would have just enough time to pick this deck up (although I do not wish to do so).
Oh well yea, I lived with it for 2 and a half year. 750 detentions? In my school 4 detentions you get warning letters to the parents, 5 detentions you get suspended, Anymore higher I think it's expel.That's an early starting time! Oh, detentions... I stopped caring about those back in middle school. :P I have a friend of mine who got 750 detentions in the year. Yup, you read that right, 3 times more detentions than school days... He got some every day for coming late to school, not doing his homework, being rude to the teachers etc. I haven't gotten nearly that many though.In singapore school starts officially at 7:15-7:45 depending which school you are in. If we are late we go for detentions(not cool)i love you don !!! but dam 7am i am going to be late for school if i purchase the deckAt what time does school start for you? Mine starts at 8:05. Even with 45 minutes of commute to get there I would have just enough time to pick this deck up (although I do not wish to do so).
Well in our school detentions are punishments, but not the most severe you can get. You can get a couple thousand without getting expelled. His parents got contacted many times, but nothing changed. In our school if you do something much worse (i.e. hit the teacher) you get a referall and you are suspended/expelled depending on how many you get and how bad you acted.Oh well yea, I lived with it for 2 and a half year. 750 detentions? In my school 4 detentions you get warning letters to the parents, 5 detentions you get suspended, Anymore higher I think it's expel.That's an early starting time! Oh, detentions... I stopped caring about those back in middle school. :P I have a friend of mine who got 750 detentions in the year. Yup, you read that right, 3 times more detentions than school days... He got some every day for coming late to school, not doing his homework, being rude to the teachers etc. I haven't gotten nearly that many though.In singapore school starts officially at 7:15-7:45 depending which school you are in. If we are late we go for detentions(not cool)i love you don !!! but dam 7am i am going to be late for school if i purchase the deckAt what time does school start for you? Mine starts at 8:05. Even with 45 minutes of commute to get there I would have just enough time to pick this deck up (although I do not wish to do so).
thats some bullshit. literally hit 12 and paid within the the first minute and it sold out
That was absolutely ridiculous.
I've never seen such a stupid business model in my entire life, built on insuring the disappointment of their own customers.
I had a brick in my cart, got to checkout, was told that amount wasn't available, then reduced it to six only to be told that it was sold out.
Dan and Dave Buck can kiss my hairy ass in Macy's window - I'll pick one facing Broadway. One cheek for each.
"I wanted to buy them, why did you let others be faster than me?!"
Really guys? ::)
I don't think it's a matter of speed, but a matter of limit. Just limit each purchase to a brick. At least then more individuals could get them.
You had your chance the first time. If you didn't take it, then too bad. I'm in no way a big fan of D&D but it seems like every little thing is an excuse for bitching these days, it's getting seriously annoying. It's one of the reasons my post count has dropped and my interest in the forum with it.
I don't believe it. Hate on me as much as you'd like, I think D&D lied to us. It's literally impossible for 500 decks to sell out that fast, especially as a second release. I'm not b*tching since I wasn't expecting to get any either time, but I'm just starting to get tired of D&D and their RIDICULOUS marketing tactics. I believe they lied on them having some more in stock, so they could fake a 1 minute sell out and increase the demand/worth of these cards.
It's literally impossible for 500 decks to sell out that fastDid you even read the post above yours? If you haven't, do it now and stop making stuff up. Or look up the definition of "literally", whichever you need.
While kind of limited in other ways, I like that the store software I have puts a "hold" on things when you put them in the cart, so you have 30 min to finish your checkout.Not to be off topic, but may I ask what your store software is? I should start looking into the options I have eventually. :P
I don't believe it. Hate on me as much as you'd like, I think D&D lied to us. It's literally impossible for 500 decks to sell out that fast, especially as a second release. I'm not b*tching since I wasn't expecting to get any either time, but I'm just starting to get tired of D&D and their RIDICULOUS marketing tactics. I believe they lied on them having some more in stock, so they could fake a 1 minute sell out and increase the demand/worth of these cards. I'm not falling for this. I think that now AC members hate D&D more than UC members hate De'vo, and that means a lot!
I don't get why people are mad, everyone had an equal opportunity.For me, at least, it's not a matter of not being fast enough, or having a slow connection or anything else. It's the fact that I got on the web site and I got items into my basket within 5 seconds of the button become active, then by the time i get through to hit the paypal screen I get told, nope, never mind, we don't have any. The system is obviously intelligent enough to know when the inventory is gone, if it's in my cart it should be pulled from inventory. I wouldn't be mad at all if I got there in 1 second hit the button and got a sold out message, then I know I just wasn't fast enough, but to say hey congrats you got here in time and then in the middle of your transaction say sold out, that's just wrong.
I do Agree that once you begin your transaction the items should be pulled from your cart. I was more refering to the people who just simply arn't fast enough and dont get decks, Not the people who have them in their carts and are then told that they are sold-out in the middle of the transaction. That is wrong.I don't get why people are mad, everyone had an equal opportunity.For me, at least, it's not a matter of not being fast enough, or having a slow connection or anything else. It's the fact that I got on the web site and I got items into my basket within 5 seconds of the button become active, then by the time i get through to hit the paypal screen I get told, nope, never mind, we don't have any. The system is obviously intelligent enough to know when the inventory is gone, if it's in my cart it should be pulled from inventory. I wouldn't be mad at all if I got there in 1 second hit the button and got a sold out message, then I know I just wasn't fast enough, but to say hey congrats you got here in time and then in the middle of your transaction say sold out, that's just wrong.
I can accept your opinion if you don't agree with my math, and that is fine. My only question to you then would be, what does D&D have to benefit from resale prices? Unless they plan on "finding" more Magi-Con v2 deck and selling them at aftermarket prices, which I highly doubt they will because that would be a horrible PR move, what extra money would D&D have to gain for raising the aftermarket price of their cards?Actually when I replied to this thread, your post didn't appear, and when I posted mine, it didn't notify me that your post had been made. So I actually hadn't seen your post until now.
These sold out faster beause there was 500 decks, not 5000+.I can accept your opinion if you don't agree with my math, and that is fine. My only question to you then would be, what does D&D have to benefit from resale prices? Unless they plan on "finding" more Magi-Con v2 deck and selling them at aftermarket prices, which I highly doubt they will because that would be a horrible PR move, what extra money would D&D have to gain for raising the aftermarket price of their cards?Actually when I replied to this thread, your post didn't appear, and when I posted mine, it didn't notify me that your post had been made. So I actually hadn't seen your post until now.
Your math makes it seem more plausible, but I don't think it is impossible for people such as D&D to lie to us in such a way. By lying to us they would make publicity for themselves: collectors would want to buy more of their decks because they sell out so fast and have such high retail prices. Take a look at the first Magic Con deck. It had a high resell price. So most collectors jumped on the occasion of buying Magic Con 2 so they could make some extra bucks. If the twins decide to make a Magic Con 3 deck, they will have an even higher demand since people will think "Magic Con 2 sold out in 1 minute, so I shouldn't miss out on this opportunity!".
@Moon - Maybe "literally" wasn't right, but what all the members who tried getting these said was that it wasn't possible to checkout in less than 1 minute, so how would NONE of the AC members been able to get them?
Also, no other rare decks have sold out this fast to my knowledge, so why would suddenly a D&D deck sell out this fast?
Gold Monarchs were 144. RA weren't 5,000 either, were more hyped, and were a first sale.These sold out faster beause there was 500 decks, not 5000+.I can accept your opinion if you don't agree with my math, and that is fine. My only question to you then would be, what does D&D have to benefit from resale prices? Unless they plan on "finding" more Magi-Con v2 deck and selling them at aftermarket prices, which I highly doubt they will because that would be a horrible PR move, what extra money would D&D have to gain for raising the aftermarket price of their cards?Actually when I replied to this thread, your post didn't appear, and when I posted mine, it didn't notify me that your post had been made. So I actually hadn't seen your post until now.
Your math makes it seem more plausible, but I don't think it is impossible for people such as D&D to lie to us in such a way. By lying to us they would make publicity for themselves: collectors would want to buy more of their decks because they sell out so fast and have such high retail prices. Take a look at the first Magic Con deck. It had a high resell price. So most collectors jumped on the occasion of buying Magic Con 2 so they could make some extra bucks. If the twins decide to make a Magic Con 3 deck, they will have an even higher demand since people will think "Magic Con 2 sold out in 1 minute, so I shouldn't miss out on this opportunity!".
@Moon - Maybe "literally" wasn't right, but what all the members who tried getting these said was that it wasn't possible to checkout in less than 1 minute, so how would NONE of the AC members been able to get them?
Also, no other rare decks have sold out this fast to my knowledge, so why would suddenly a D&D deck sell out this fast?
Also, no other rare decks have sold out this fast to my knowledge, so why would suddenly a D&D deck sell out this fast?
i dont understand why they dont just print them again due to demand from the fans it would be win for them as they would make more money and all of us would get the decks we want for the right priceThat would be unfair to the people who bought the decks because they were extremely limited, rare, and collectible.
i dont understand why they dont just print them again due to demand from the fans it would be win for them as they would make more money and all of us would get the decks we want for the right priceI think it comes down to simple economics, a higher supply = a lower demand. In other words, they would have to judge perfectly the number of decks that would be printed in order to satisfy the demand and the more decks that are printed, the lower the demand would become due variables like people wanting rarity, and higher resale values. When more decks are printed, there is a risk that some will not sell, ergo a loss in revenue and storage space where the decks not sold would have to be stored until they are able to get rid of them.
That would be unfair to the people who bought the decks because they were extremely limited, rare, and collectible.
My screen went from confirming my purchase, then it glitched to they were sold out, so I'm honestly not sure if I got any this time :-\Just login and check your order history. Or check your email because they always send out order confirmations.
Not to be off topic, but may I ask what your store software is? I should start looking into the options I have eventually. :P
My screen went from confirming my purchase, then it glitched to they were sold out, so I'm honestly not sure if I got any this time :-\Just login and check your order history. Or check your email because they always send out order confirmations.
the only reason i said it was bs is becuase i had the decks in my cart. i well though the only reason im upset is because i actually wanted the deck, but no big deal though.I think your cart has to be checked out to be considered your's. Just like going to a supermarket. You got grocery with you but it's not yours until you get to the payment counter and pay for them. Same thing goes for the decks it's not yours until you checkout.
ya i get that, but people also don't swoop in and jack the shit out of your cart lol like i said though, o well, there are more decks coming out that i want so its all good.People will actually, it's just that there are plenty of supply in the grocery store.
Way to look out for your fans... SMH...
I'm guessing magic con uncut sheet will be available since, alejandro posted on facebook via instagram of him signing a uncut.
@Don In desperate needs people will actually take things off your cart.
I'm guessing magic con uncut sheet will be available since, alejandro posted on facebook via instagram of him signing a uncut.
@Don In desperate needs people will actually take things off your cart.
CBJ... It's not hard to get that the people that make up these forums are the reason that the Buck twins have a playing card business in the first place... Bricks upon bricks of decks are purchased at a time by everyone here and many times by individuals that stockpile D&D... So when it comes time to pick up a deck that everyone would like to add to their collection, it becomes an impossibility? I too experienced the frustration and let down when I instantly saw them become available clicked twice and was told they were sold out... My only thoughts are that someone bought the whole lot in one shot... I understand that it's easier for the twins to unload all the decks to one individual, but their fans, and the people who collect their decks and discuss their decks, and love their decks are completely shut out of the loop only to pay 3,4, sometimes 5 times what they're worth and why??? Egos? Lack of respect for their supporters? I would like to think differently about them and have grown to in the recent past, but that video of them finding all those Jerry's Nuggets for nothing and discussing how they're going to just rip the hell out of all the collectors echoes in my mind and I sure hope they make good to their supporters... In this case, I'm going to try and remain optimistic hoping that they are not the sort of people that would do this to the community...
Well, i'm just saying people will fight for things in desperate times. GET OVER IT WITH MAGIC CON!!!I'm guessing magic con uncut sheet will be available since, alejandro posted on facebook via instagram of him signing a uncut.
@Don In desperate needs people will actually take things off your cart.
We're talking about playing cards, not food, water or medicine! There is no such thing as being in a true state of desperation over a deck of cards! (And it doesn't make the potential reaction any more or less pleasant!)CBJ... It's not hard to get that the people that make up these forums are the reason that the Buck twins have a playing card business in the first place... Bricks upon bricks of decks are purchased at a time by everyone here and many times by individuals that stockpile D&D... So when it comes time to pick up a deck that everyone would like to add to their collection, it becomes an impossibility? I too experienced the frustration and let down when I instantly saw them become available clicked twice and was told they were sold out... My only thoughts are that someone bought the whole lot in one shot... I understand that it's easier for the twins to unload all the decks to one individual, but their fans, and the people who collect their decks and discuss their decks, and love their decks are completely shut out of the loop only to pay 3,4, sometimes 5 times what they're worth and why??? Egos? Lack of respect for their supporters? I would like to think differently about them and have grown to in the recent past, but that video of them finding all those Jerry's Nuggets for nothing and discussing how they're going to just rip the hell out of all the collectors echoes in my mind and I sure hope they make good to their supporters... In this case, I'm going to try and remain optimistic hoping that they are not the sort of people that would do this to the community...
It's too late, I think, JMRock - if they cared about the community, they'd have figured out a better way to do this by now. They aren't idiots, just self-interested. If they have a sudden change of heart, well, my business card now reads "consultant to the playing card industry!"
I did go over to FB - even caught their attention! Let's see what comes of it, if anything.
CBJ... It's not hard to get that the people that make up these forums are the reason that the Buck twins have a playing card business in the first place... Bricks upon bricks of decks are purchased at a time by everyone here and many times by individuals that stockpile D&D... So when it comes time to pick up a deck that everyone would like to add to their collection, it becomes an impossibility? I too experienced the frustration and let down when I instantly saw them become available clicked twice and was told they were sold out... My only thoughts are that someone bought the whole lot in one shot... I understand that it's easier for the twins to unload all the decks to one individual, but their fans, and the people who collect their decks and discuss their decks, and love their decks are completely shut out of the loop only to pay 3,4, sometimes 5 times what they're worth and why??? Egos? Lack of respect for their supporters? I would like to think differently about them and have grown to in the recent past, but that video of them finding all those Jerry's Nuggets for nothing and discussing how they're going to just rip the hell out of all the collectors echoes in my mind and I sure hope they make good to their supporters... In this case, I'm going to try and remain optimistic hoping that they are not the sort of people that would do this to the community...Excellent point. We have come to expect certain releases from DandD to sell out quick. If we expect it, I am sure they know it. Why not put a cap on what one person can buy. Even if it is limited to a brick, the resellers could still make some money. I was able to get myself 5-6 decks this time but I can not help but notice in the aftermath of these types of releases there are usually a lot of pissed of DandD fans. It seems having upset a smaller # of resellers versus a majority of collectors like myself and jmrock makes more sense. Obviously, if this was a concern for DandD or if they feel it was effecting there business in a negative way, I am sure it would have been addressed. I guess they are content with the way things are. It appeared to me the first Macic-conv2 sale lasted for about a half hour. I ordered my 5-6 decks without issue and went back after another ten minutes and they were still selling. I am going to look around here to see how the 2nd release went. I wonder how long it took for them to sell out. I am not giving up on DandD. I was even thinking of joining the deck of the month club. DandD reminds of those nice NYC restaurants that are always full and do not give a shit if you are able to get a table in your life time.
I was able to pick up 4 decks at the second release. So that proves that not all went to 1 buyer. And what is with these Internet Badasses talking about people trying take shit from their shopping cart getting business in some fashion? Are you serious? You're going to come onto a card forum and try to act hard? Get real guys.
You tried, you failed. Obviously it was possible, I did it. So...next time be better prepared than you thought you might have been, stop blaming the companies, and man the hell up. This is a hobby, not a means to provide for a family. You guys are taking this way to far.
maybe companies like dnd should sell to wholesale people separately instead of with the general population. i also think the cart reservation idea would clear up a lot of unnecessary questions and complaints.
I dont mean for the items to be in your cart for long periods of time. Maybe for 10 minutes tops. really just enough time so you can enter in all of your information without having to worry about it selling out.
@Nathan, as a man who has a family and understands that mommy and daddy doesn't give me everything, I would act the exact same. I am just a little older and more mature is what it boils down to.I'm done with these personal attacks so I won't even bother to answer to your comment.
is the magic con deck going to be available on their website ... or where can you buy it??Let me start by welcoming you to the forums! :D
is the magic con deck going to be available on their website ... or where can you buy it??
Let me start by welcoming you to the forums! :D
Also, yes, these were available on their website but are now sold out.
Finally, feel free to read the conversation before posting, that can often help answer your question.
I hope you have fun here! :P
LOL.. looks like Don ruffled some feathers..LOL, wheres that from?
Dan and Dave write:
"In all honesty Don Boyer (http://www.facebook.com/donboyermagic), I do not understand your argument one bit. Further, I do not appreciate you spamming our Facebook page with a minor problem that could be solved with a simple email. Granted we are busy and will get back to you later this week. To explain is short form: The Magic-Con playing cards were intended for the attendees of Magic-Con 2012. That's it! We graciously sold a small supply in our online shop and gave everyone several days notice. We can't control the market and although we appreciate the quick sell-out from a business standpoint, we do like to make our fans and customers happy and like to think we have the best customer support on the planet. So, email us and we'll get back to you. Case closed."
Yikes.. lol
CBJ
LOL.. looks like Don ruffled some feathers..
Dan and Dave write:
"In all honesty Don Boyer (http://www.facebook.com/donboyermagic), I do not understand your argument one bit. Further, I do not appreciate you spamming our Facebook page with a minor problem that could be solved with a simple email. Granted we are busy and will get back to you later this week. To explain is short form: The Magic-Con playing cards were intended for the attendees of Magic-Con 2012. That's it! We graciously sold a small supply in our online shop and gave everyone several days notice. We can't control the market and although we appreciate the quick sell-out from a business standpoint, we do like to make our fans and customers happy and like to think we have the best customer support on the planet. So, email us and we'll get back to you. Case closed."
Yikes.. lol
CBJ
As far as solutions - I've been to website that start a countdown clock when you start the purchase, and you have until that countdown runs out to complete the purchase or the merchandise goes back up for sale. I'm not saying I need ten minutes to bust out my credit card, but I could use just a little more time than it takes for the blasted page to load. I never even made it that far.
What did you replied to them?
Did you contact their customer service? What did they say? Don, nice job making a bold move and daring to face a group of irrational business people with thousands of followers :D Lol, it seems like this argument has gotten me from +36 to -1 and you from -5 to -120 lol.
You are absolutely right, Decks. That is why I'm irritated about the whole thing. In addition, their customer service...I emailed Syd a couple days ago and got a reply last night. I asked about getting a couple decks signed. He replied with a "yes" and even remembered that I did not get a signed Clip Joint when I asked and he is throwing in a free signed Clip Joint without my asking...so maybe their customer service is good? I would say so.Syd is probably one of the nicest person I've met in the the line of customer service, without fail he is. I asked him if he could help me combine shipping for two different orders, he said yes.
On the other side of the coin...if I were in a boat and a shark was making waves around me, I would rather kill that shark than feed it.
Gareth basically just said the same I said.
I think they may have already confirmed to holding some for future variety boxes and dotm, Lord
You are absolutely right, Decks. That is why I'm irritated about the whole thing. In addition, their customer service...I emailed Syd a couple days ago and got a reply last night. I asked about getting a couple decks signed. He replied with a "yes" and even remembered that I did not get a signed Clip Joint when I asked and he is throwing in a free signed Clip Joint without my asking...so maybe their customer service is good? I would say so.
On the other side of the coin...if I were in a boat and a shark was making waves around me, I would rather kill that shark than feed it.
Well said good shark. ;) so what kind of timeline are you predicting for the bubble to burst?
Much like other bubbles or recessions, you'll never get 2 people to agree on exactly when it began or if it began at all. I think we are right smack in the middle of the bubble and like other bubbles....its only going to get worse before it gets better. I think the 1st time DanD brought out a new deck and it didn't sell out within the 1st week (Fantastique)...we saw the beginning. Now we see neither one of the Fulton's decks has sold out (Yes you can argue these aren't DandD decks but they are marketed by DandD so....). The only way I can see this is going to hit bottom is for someone....DandD or anyone else printing cards right now...to TOTALLY FLOP! I mean they can't give a print run of decks away! Much like when whoever printed the Bicycle Big Guns sold their remaining decks for $1.00. Until you see a major company start doing this.....it may go on and on! Basically, somebody is going to have to take a hit in their pocket books. Who knows....it may be DandD....they were suppose to have only printed 5000 Chinatown decks and they still haven't sold out and now they are printing a new Fulton's deck!
I am acctually very surprised about thee Chinatowns being in stock still, 5000 decks ussually sells out from a big comoany in a matter of hours, sometimes minutes!
I am acctually very surprised about thee Chinatowns being in stock still, 5000 decks ussually sells out from a big company in a matter of hours, sometimes minutes!Well D&D isn't quite as big of a company as T11 or E, so it's not as big of a surprise as it may seem.
@Don Boyer, when you say ''Fulton made the S&M decks as well...'' how do you mean? Although Brad was working with the bucks in some capacity, my understanding is that Si Scott was the Artist behind smoke and mirrors, if I remember correctly Brad was the person behind the name Smoke & Mirrors but he had no part in the production of the decks design or anything else in regards to the deck, maybe he took photos for the release but I dont know for sure. So I would have to say Si Scott and Dan & Dave made the deck while Brad gave them the name, so he still had a part in it but I wouldn't say he made the deck.
The Fulton decks are indeed D&D decks. Fulton made the S&M decks as well...I am acctually very surprised about thee Chinatowns being in stock still, 5000 decks ussually sells out from a big company in a matter of hours, sometimes minutes!Well D&D isn't quite as big of a company as T11 or E, so it's not as big of a surprise as it may seem.
Don, the time has come for people to rebel against D&D!
Don, that's not what I'm saying. Over time, custom deck prices are increasing very rapidly. I understand that small companies' decks and Kickstarter-funded decks need to cost a bit more in order to get funded succesfully, but companies like T11 and Ellusionist (maybe not D&D since they are individuals rather than a large company) sell decks at 4-7 times the price it costs them to get made. I'm not saying it is easy to create a custom deck. All I'm saying is that if I don't think it's a good idea to support decks that are made to cost collectors a lot of money (Pandora Vine backs etc.). All that will do is on the long term make collectors pay much more for decks than they should.
The price of the magic con decks at the 1eyedjack just increased from 14.95 to 16.95.
I was just thinking why these decks did not come with jokers. I saw some magic con footage on YouTube of some of the speakers signing the uncut sheets and I am very sure I saw 2 other cards(jokers, I assume) included. They are plain white cards with the magic con star.
The price of the magic con decks at the 1eyedjack just increased from 14.95 to 16.95.
I was just thinking why these decks did not come with jokers. I saw some magic con footage on YouTube of some of the speakers signing the uncut sheets and I am very sure I saw 2 other cards(jokers, I assume) included. They are plain white cards with the magic con star.
They probably removed them to be used for the get a free autograph thing. Haha. I didn't get any free autographs no matter howard times I requested. Only got one 'free' with a purchase from them. Better than nothing.
So the two stars in the top left of the uncut are the "jokers"? And does the deck itself have those or not?