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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: Evan on November 27, 2012, 03:14:31 PM
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This pic was posted on UC by PlayingCardz, and he said that he received it in an email from Brad. (Oddly, I didn't get an email)
Looks like a blue version of the LTD. deck!
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Nice find bro! I hope it is!!! We will find out soon most likely lol
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Just looks like a regular LTD in weird light.
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Just looks like a regular LTD in weird light.
Really? Looks a lot like blue LTD to me! Why else would he send this pic?
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Just looks like a regular LTD in weird light.
But if you compare it to the Red LTD deck on the table, you can tell its completely different color.
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Not bad. - I'm still controversial though.
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Why else would he send this pic?
Dude really?
Why not have a look at the actual email first...
You should see my desk right now, so loaded with gimmicks, samples, prototypes and decks it's not funny. We've been working so hard to get everything ready for Cyber Mon/Tues - all the sales and stuff. We were up until 4 am Sun night - no rest for the wicked!
The picture follows this paragraph. You're welcome.
Not bad. - I'm still controversial though.
That made zero sense. Try again in proper English.
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Not bad. - I'm still controversial though.
Please for the love of god... READ BEFORE YOU POST. I don't even understand what you are trying to say and thats sad because i talk with drunk people all the time and know exactly what they are trying to say.
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Just looks like a regular LTD in weird light.
Really? Looks a lot like blue LTD to me! Why else would he send this pic?
Because he was saying his desk is cluttered :o
Just looks like a regular LTD in weird light.
But if you compare it to the Red LTD deck on the table, you can tell its completely different color.
They are in different lighting so it isn even comparable.
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It does look like it could be a blue - or even black - LTD deck. But he also mentioned that they're samples and prototypes. It might never see the light of day.
I'm also intrigued by the skull-in-spade design on a piece of paper on his desk. It's between the glasses and the Black Apex edition Artifice deck. Or is it the Black Club edition? The name seems to change... :))
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Not bad. - I'm still controversial though.
Please for the love of god... READ BEFORE YOU POST. I don't even understand what you are trying to say and thats sad because i talk with drunk people all the time and know exactly what they are trying to say.
Well, I have "READ BEFORE I POSTED". I'm sorry i wasn't clear enough for you. Here, I'll explain each thought behind my phrases. It looks you'll need it
"Not bad." - By saying this, I was expressing my feelings of shock, on how Ellusionist could possible be making another LTD deck, and anxiousness, on how the design would look compared to it's previous model.
"I'm still controversial though." - By saying this, it meant that I was this a bit iffy on the photo. To me, i neither confirms or denies the existence of a blue LTD. deck. You can see it's clearly blue, but that coloring may be caused by the light emitted from the computer screen.
Better?
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It does look like it could be a blue - or even black - LTD deck. But he also mentioned that they're samples and prototypes. It might never see the light of day.
I'm also intrigued by the skull-in-spade design on a piece of paper on his desk. It's between the glasses and the Black Apex edition Artifice deck. Or is it the Black Club edition? The name seems to change... :))
I guess we could settle with the Black Apex Club Edition Artifice Playing Cards
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@KPop, saying, "I'm controversial" isn't proper english. I think that was the confusion.
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Not bad. - I'm still controversial though.
Please for the love of god... READ BEFORE YOU POST. I don't even understand what you are trying to say and thats sad because i talk with drunk people all the time and know exactly what they are trying to say.
Well, I have "READ BEFORE I POSTED". I'm sorry i wasn't clear enough for you. Here, I'll explain each thought behind my phrases. It looks you'll need it
"Not bad." - By saying this, I was expressing my feelings of shock, on how Ellusionist could possible be making another LTD deck, and anxiousness, on how the design would look compared to it's previous model.
"I'm still controversial though." - By saying this, it meant that I was this a bit iffy on the photo. To me, i neither confirms or denies the existence of a blue LTD. deck. You can see it's clearly blue, but that coloring may be caused by the light emitted from the computer screen.
Better?
Controversial still wasn't the appropriate word regardless :P
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@Moon, I would have read the email but like I stated in the original post, I didn't receive it.
But do you really think that he wanted to show you his messy desk?
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it is confirmed this is a different color LTD and its not black. Blue i guess
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"Not bad." - By saying this, I was expressing my feelings of shock, on how Ellusionist could possible be making another LTD deck, and anxiousness, on how the design would look compared to it's previous model.
This phrase is "not bad". Not great, but not bad. At least we can understand you, somewhat.
"I'm still controversial though." - By saying this, it meant that I was this a bit iffy on the photo. To me, i neither confirms or denies the existence of a blue LTD. deck. You can see it's clearly blue, but that coloring may be caused by the light emitted from the computer screen.
Better?
Ah, no.
When you say, "I'm still controversial though," (and there should be a comma between "controversial" and "though") you're telling us that there's an ongoing controversy surrounding you and it's still ongoing. It says NOTHING about anything or anyone else.
Perhaps "apprehensive" would have been better than "controversial"...
it is confirmed this is a different color LTD and its not black. Blue i guess
Confirmed by who? This photo isn't clear enough to confirm anything, and I haven't heard anyone at E give any specifics about it - have you?
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it is confirmed this is a different color LTD and its not black. Blue i guess
Confirmed by who? This photo isn't clear enough to confirm anything, and I haven't heard anyone at E give any specifics about it - have you?
Mike from E confirmed it over at UC.
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it is confirmed this is a different color LTD and its not black. Blue i guess
Confirmed by who? This photo isn't clear enough to confirm anything, and I haven't heard anyone at E give any specifics about it - have you?
Mike from E confirmed it over at UC.
And what are we, chopped liver? :))
I don't always get time to check UC - you guys have to be my eyes and ears!
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here's hoping for an un-ltd release
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It would appear that E is running low on their old rare decks and so must create some new ones so it is unlikely that the blue ltd deck will be released freely for purchase to the public.
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It would appear that E is running low on their old rare decks and so must create some new ones so it is unlikely that the blue ltd deck will be released freely for purchase to the public.
That's been true since the end of the last holiday season. I think they still have a trick or two up their sleeves. Blue LTD is a possible, but Sultan Republic Treasury Edition is a definite rare, and then there's the infamous Black Club Members Only Black Apex Edition Artifice Black Black Deck...
(Black, black, black, spam, black, black, black, spam...)
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I now have a strong feeling that there will be a blue LTD. because I've emailed Ellusionist's customer support, and they've responded giving me a "shady" response. They neither denied it or accepted it, but considering they didn't deny it straight-up, I'm assuming they're in production.
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Also for anyone that missed it the Sultan Republic deck is also a Limited Edition deck with only 10,000 printed as they are not reprinting them and are redesigning them entirely
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Also for anyone that missed it the Sultan Republic deck is also a Limited Edition deck with only 10,000 printed as they are not reprinting them and are redesigning them entirely
Yeah, that was written up in the topic for that deck. It's an accidental limited edition, just like the first edition blue Artifice, the all-white pip Black Tiger and the silver-and-red Tally Ho Vipers. And if you get down to it, all the UV500 and Air Cushion versions of the decks prior to Artifice.
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Also for anyone that missed it the Sultan Republic deck is also a Limited Edition deck with only 10,000 printed as they are not reprinting them and are redesigning them entirely
Yeah, that was written up in the topic for that deck. It's an accidental limited edition, just like the first edition blue Artifice, the all-white pip Black Tiger and the silver-and-red Tally Ho Vipers. And if you get down to it, all the UV500 and Air Cushion versions of the decks prior to Artifice.
Yes but those were mass produced awile ago, these are actually a limited edition deck. In reality all decks are limited editions because they will eventually not be made any more but only 10,000 of these were made, making them fairly rare. E said awile ago that 100,000 Artifice Blue 1's were made.
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Also for anyone that missed it the Sultan Republic deck is also a Limited Edition deck with only 10,000 printed as they are not reprinting them and are redesigning them entirely
Yeah, that was written up in the topic for that deck. It's an accidental limited edition, just like the first edition blue Artifice, the all-white pip Black Tiger and the silver-and-red Tally Ho Vipers. And if you get down to it, all the UV500 and Air Cushion versions of the decks prior to Artifice.
Yes but those were mass produced awile ago, these are actually a limited edition deck. In reality all decks are limited editions because they will eventually not be made any more but only 10,000 of these were made, making them fairly rare. E said awile ago that 100,000 Artifice Blue 1's were made.
I'm going to continue this in the actual topic for this deck...
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Awesome... Now that the LTD isn't selling for $100 anymore and you can pick them up for $20 there's a blue version... Just what I've always wanted... At least it will go with my eyes... When this one reaches $20, they should release a brown LTD deck to represent what this recoloring fad actually is... Did everyone get it??? $#!T... Wow a new color... "I really need this at all costs to complete my collection..." Please... I've really had enough of this, now common, lazy way to release a new deck and demand additional $ without doing anything at all except for pushing a button...
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Recolouring or very minimal variations are pretty much the go to nowadays to hold customer attention until they release a new product. But it's not just in the playing cards market; go look at Apple or the phone manufacturers. They all function the same way, do the same things, but every few months a new one comes out that people will buy.
E aren't forcing you to buy the deck; and never have. If you go ahead and blow your money on decks then realise that you've made a mistake, don't blame the company; instead take responsibility for your mistakes. I did see your comment on the Black Artifice about how you got suckered into the collecting bug, and I will admit myself it is quite consuming.
But in this instance a blue LTD deck may be a new collectors way of obtaining an LTD deck without spending upwards of $50 on eBay or via the free gift tier system on E. It also hasn't been confirmed to be something that will be sold in the future. It could have just been a prototype that will never see the light of day.
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Recolouring or very minimal variations are pretty much the go to nowadays to hold customer attention until they release a new product. But it's not just in the playing cards market; go look at Apple or the phone manufacturers. They all function the same way, do the same things, but every few months a new one comes out that people will buy.
E aren't forcing you to buy the deck; and never have. If you go ahead and blow your money on decks then realise that you've made a mistake, don't blame the company; instead take responsibility for your mistakes. I did see your comment on the Black Artifice about how you got suckered into the collecting bug, and I will admit myself it is quite consuming.
But in this instance a blue LTD deck may be a new collectors way of obtaining an LTD deck without spending upwards of $50 on eBay or via the free gift tier system on E. It also hasn't been confirmed to be something that will be sold in the future. It could have just been a prototype that will never see the light of day.
I agree with most of your points, except for the comparison in the first paragraph. Most of the changes involved with making new smartphones deal with changes in design and technology - newer chips, sharper displays, more memory, better operating system, etc.
When someone changes the color of a deck, in most cases, it's as simple as moving a slider or two on a color palette. That's the laziness he's referring to.
While I definitely agree, JMRock, there's also one issue that can't be ignored: customer demand. Some people WANT different colors to choose from. When the LTD deck first came out, people were already wishing there was a blue deck as well, to make a matched pair. No company survives that ignores its customers for too long.
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Well, seems like there is a blue LTD deck. This is just the prototype though. It was put on auction by E to raise funds for the Wayne Houchin incident. What's more, apparently it has a different back design. Too bad there's no picture there showing the back. :(
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221162844247?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
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Was too excited when i posted this I didn't read the product description on the E-bay auction, it seems that the blue LTD will be an unlimited deck!
Up for auction is a deck of Blue LTD playing cards from Ellusionist. Yes. Blue. The first edition of this deck was rare, red and extremely sought by collectors. Originally available as a holiday promotion, the red deck was printed in a run of about 5,000. As for this blue deck, it's a little different -- it is the only one of its kind. It is a prototype deck for an unlimited blue version of the deck.
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Hmm, it has a seal...
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so the blue deck will be unlimited ?
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Awesome... Now that the LTD isn't selling for $100 anymore and you can pick them up for $20 there's a blue version... Just what I've always wanted... At least it will go with my eyes... When this one reaches $20, they should release a brown LTD deck to represent what this recoloring fad actually is... Did everyone get it??? $#!T... Wow a new color... "I really need this at all costs to complete my collection..." Please... I've really had enough of this, now common, lazy way to release a new deck and demand additional $ without doing anything at all except for pushing a button...
where are you finding red LTD decks for 20 bucks?
also, as a matter of principle, I'm only going to buy the blue LTD deck if they change the name to Blue unLTD deck
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Behold the unlimited edition limited edition deck
imaging they use that name :)
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Sr15 - the box says "unlimited deck" below LTD on the front. I think that's as close to a name change as you're going to see - though I could be wrong.
Frost - yes, unlimited, just like the box says and just like LeonJL stated. What makes that particular deck up for auction so special is that it's not a production model; it's a prototype, and it's being sold as a fundraiser, thus meaning people will bid far more than the deck is actually worth to help Wayne. We'll probably see this for sale sometime in the near future - my guess would be New Year's Day or something like that.
John - what about the seal? It's a growing trend for decks to have seals again, usually customized. Funny how things come full circle like that...
LeonJL - I wish they were showing the back as well, but it's part of what the bidder is paying for. Call it bragging rights.
What surprises me about this fundraiser is that there's just the one deck, it's already at $252 and I can't imagine it going too much higher than that. Even if it doubles in price, that's not a lot in light of the expenses Wayne will face - and as a working magician, there's a fair-to-middling chance he has no health insurance. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but I could have imagined better ways to raise funds like this, and to do so without all the cash coming out of one person's wallet.
Imagine a "fundraiser weekend" - buy a deck or a trick and they donate the profits (or even just half of the profits - they are a business) to Wayne, or something like that. As another option, I would be willing to do something like buying a deck at $5 above normal retail, with the fiver going to the fundraiser; I'd bet I'm not the only one, either. That would likely raise a lot more cash for him, especially this time of year.
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Well Don, we're currently looking at around $4.5K ??? oh well, if it's going to Wayne, then I'm all for it :)
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Don I was just joking, I'm prolly gonna pick up this deck regardless of what they call it
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Well Don, we're currently looking at around $4.5K ??? oh well, if it's going to Wayne, then I'm all for it :)
You aren't looking at the same auction I am, then. The one I looked at - the one linked to a few posts back - is now at $305.00, only about 7% of the $4,500 you're saying it's up to...
Don I was just joking, I'm prolly gonna pick up this deck regardless of what they call it
Then use a smiley and let a brother in on the joke... :))
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Hmm must have been a glitch of some sort, I'm not too sure. On the LTD uncut and blue LTD it was around $5k each with a lot of bids from the same person with 0 feedback. Then there was a final bid of around the 5K from a standard ebayer. Interesting though :karrit:
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John - what about the seal? It's a growing trend for decks to have seals again, usually customized. Funny how things come full circle like that...
I was just wondering if anyone else saw it... :P
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Hmm must have been a glitch of some sort, I'm not too sure. On the LTD uncut and blue LTD it was around $5k each with a lot of bids from the same person with 0 feedback. Then there was a final bid of around the 5K from a standard ebayer. Interesting though :karrit:
It must have been a glitch. Did you see the other items up for bids? Some cool stuff.
John - what about the seal? It's a growing trend for decks to have seals again, usually customized. Funny how things come full circle like that...
I was just wondering if anyone else saw it... :P
OK, then... I did... :))
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I'm not sure this is confirmed. It's only a prototype, and it says it's to raise more money to help Wayne Houchin. Probably only a single release.
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I'm not sure this is confirmed. It's only a prototype, and it says it's to raise more money to help Wayne Houchin. Probably only a single release.
While that's possible, it's pretty unlikely. People make prototypes of decks they're in the process of making. If it was a concept they were considering but weren't sure of the art, they'd make a proof sheet - it costs a fraction of what a prototype deck does.
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Blue LTD deck available next weekend. No price or other info except this.
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Bleh....won't be as limited as the reds, not really interested unless the back design is different. A simple recoloring won't be enough to entice me to buy these.
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Fank, in the video it was mentioned that there will be more than just a recolouring; a few variations in design here and there.
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Bleh....won't be as limited as the reds, not really interested unless the back design is different. A simple recoloring won't be enough to entice me to buy these.
If I remember correctly, the prototype on Ebay said it had a new back. The jokers looked pretty much the same though. Granted that WAS a prototype, but the completed version can't be too different.
Someone should merge this with the other Blue LTD topic.
http://aethercards.com/discourse/playing-card-plethora/new-deck-blue-ltd-deck/
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Yes, they said there would be a few variations, but I would like a different back design, not just a few subtle changes. Granted I LOVED the original LTD back design, I'm not a fan of recolorings, as I said, so I am really looking forward to a changed back design for these.
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Yes !!! I have been waiting for this deck to release can't wait .
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Bleh....won't be as limited as the reds, not really interested unless the back design is different. A simple recoloring won't be enough to entice me to buy these.
If I remember correctly, the prototype on Ebay said it had a new back. The jokers looked pretty much the same though. Granted that WAS a prototype, but the completed version can't be too different.
Someone should merge this with the other Blue LTD topic.
http://aethercards.com/discourse/playing-card-plethora/new-deck-blue-ltd-deck/
Done and done.
And somebody [coughSIEGcough] needs to look more carefully before making new topics!
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If you watched Revelations 4 by Daniel Madison you would have seen that he briefly showed a glipse of the next LTD deck, in blue! All though there is not an exact date for it, he said it would be sometime next weekend. What are your guys opinion on it? I wonder what the promotion is going to be on it or if it is even going to be promotional.
Here is the link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tUOemQLfq0&list=PLC3c-lhfmuKbLSNOFIAVCUGaER62nul7N&index=1
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If you watched Revelations 4 by Daniel Madison you would have seen that he briefly showed a glipse of the next LTD deck, in blue! All though there is not an exact date for it, he said it would be sometime next weekend. What are your guys opinion on it? I wonder what the promotion is going to be on it or if it is even going to be promotional.
Here is the link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tUOemQLfq0&list=PLC3c-lhfmuKbLSNOFIAVCUGaER62nul7N&index=1
Read up on this buddy! It'll help give a bunch of info and speculations!
http://aethercards.com/discourse/playing-card-plethora/new-deck-blue-ltd-deck/ :)
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Guys, please STOP MAKING NEW TOPICS for the same deck!! This is the third topic for this deck so far! I'm merging it with the other two.
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Ellusionist will be shooting a trailer for the new deck today. Also, the deck will be made available mid-week. There will be no pre-order this weekend. Here's the link to revelations 5 where Daniel Madison talks about the deck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37L-xOcmM4I
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Guys, please STOP MAKING NEW TOPICS for the same deck!! This is the third topic for this deck so far! I'm merging it with the other two.
Remember to use the SEARCH function before posting anything new here. :) Please. Thank you.
Anyway. Blue LTDs finally coming out huh? meeeh... Im not so fond of it for now. Unless they release some juicy new thing besides new color render and promises of something more than that. :)
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Blue LTDs finally coming out huh? meeeh... Im not so fond of it for now. Unless they release some juicy new thing besides new color render and promises of something more than that. :)
New back design.
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got some more photo's .
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Ellusionist will be shooting a trailer for the new deck today. Also, the deck will be made available mid-week. There will be no pre-order this weekend. Here's the link to revelations 5 where Daniel Madison talks about the deck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37L-xOcmM4I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37L-xOcmM4I)
Someone said just a few posts ago that it would be THIS WEEKEND, not the middle of next week, that blue LTD is released. Who's right?
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Ellusionist will be shooting a trailer for the new deck today. Also, the deck will be made available mid-week. There will be no pre-order this weekend. Here's the link to revelations 5 where Daniel Madison talks about the deck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37L-xOcmM4I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37L-xOcmM4I)
It was going to be available for PRE-ORDER this weekend but I guess they got the shipment of decks early or something so there just going to do a full release mid week next week.
Someone said just a few posts ago that it would be THIS WEEKEND, not the middle of next week, that blue LTD is released. Who's right?
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got some more photo's .
Whoa. That blue's much more vibrant than I expected. This should be interesting.
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Someone said just a few posts ago that it would be THIS WEEKEND, not the middle of next week, that blue LTD is released. Who's right?
I'm assuming the updated message, of the deck coming out mid-week, is correct considering they were both stated by the same person, and had a speed-up in processing the decks.
Whoa. That blue's much more vibrant than I expected. This should be interesting.
I doubt that's how the actual deck looks, because if you look at a few previous posts, the box is actually a darker shade of blue, with the circle being a lighter color.
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Okay if that is the real color and not a saturated edit of the photo... then I'm liking the rich royal blue-ness of it. hahaha!!!
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Is it just me, or does that back design look 100% like the original? Granted, the photo is blurry, but still...
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Is it just me, or does that back design look 100% like the original? Granted, the photo is blurry, but still...
I too think the back design is a recoloring of the original. After all, isn't that what the deck supposed to be. Many people requested releasing the LTD. because they loved the back design, and Ellusionist compromised with them and the people who still owned the limited LTD decks, creating a simple recoloring.
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This was posted on Daniel Madison's instagram:
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Need to see more. **sigh** As much as I love the blue I want to see what other "new" elements of design they claim to offer in the Blue LTDs.
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I can tell you one thing- they won't look very good in fans.
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These are now available fot Black Club members.
Be aware that the Blue LTD are actually UNLTD now.
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These are now available fot Black Club members.
Be aware that the Blue LTD are actually UNLTD now.
Which means the rest of the world gets a crack at them tomorrow...
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Any ideas on the price of this deck? Or the price of the red ltds when they came out?
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These are now available fot Black Club members.
Be aware that the Blue LTD are actually UNLTD now.
Which means the rest of the world gets a crack at them tomorrow...
Yeah. Great deal for Black Club members, as usual. We've got this amazing opportunity to buy some unlimited decks 24h ahead. Hooray.
Any ideas on the price of this deck? Or the price of the red ltds when they came out?
Blue LTDs are $6.99 for a deck, but you get progressive discounts on higher amounts til 15% off.
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Any ideas on the price of this deck? Or the price of the red ltds when they came out?
Best of all, there's a nice little incentive on top of it, however am unsure if this is limited to members only.
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Any ideas on the price of this deck? Or the price of the red ltds when they came out?
The red LTD decks were never publicly released for sale.
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I may pick up a couple, but I preferred the original red LTD. . . will it still be called LTD is if will not be a limited deck???
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I may pick up a couple, but I preferred the original red LTD. . . will it still be called LTD is if will not be a limited deck???
I always assumed LTD was a reflection of the brand... Am I incorrect?
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Havent seen a link posted yet, so here ya go, decks can be purchased HERE: http://www.ellusionist.com/ltd-blue-playing-cards-deck.html
Honestly I really like this deck. I know alot of people aren't a fan of recolorings, but I'm not really interested in basically blowing $50-60 to open a red deck when I can get a blue that I can acutally play with for $6. I like blue better anyways.
EDIT: and I LOVE the silver pips. Sooo purdy
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Havent seen a link posted yet, so here ya go, decks can be purchased HERE: http://www.ellusionist.com/ltd-blue-playing-cards-deck.html
They're available to Black Club members only, they'll go up for public release at 1pm PST. For 72 Hours from Public Release purchases of 12 or more decks will receive an original Red LTD as well. (Buy 1 Brick of unLTD's get a Free LTD, Buy 2 Bricks get 2 LTD's etc).
These are exactly the same as the original LTDs, except for the coloration change. The Prototype we had up on Ebay was a one-of-a-kind with a different back design. It's the only sealed deck in existence (assuming it's still sealed) so unless the owner chooses to open the deck, the prototype back design will go undiscovered.
-Jake
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Havent seen a link posted yet, so here ya go, decks can be purchased HERE: http://www.ellusionist.com/ltd-blue-playing-cards-deck.html
Honestly I really like this deck. I know alot of people aren't a fan of recolorings, but I'm not really interested in basically blowing $50-60 to open a red deck when I can get a blue that I can acutally play with for $6. I like blue better anyways.
EDIT: and I LOVE the silver pips. Sooo purdy
Angel_magic, I know you're enthusiastic about getting this deck, but there's no point in posting a link to a Black Club exclusive pre-order until it's available to everyone. You can't order it before the general release unless you're logged in with an account that has a Black Club membership, and when the exclusive's done, everyone will find it on the website.
Xntrix, as usual, thanks for the info. Always appreciated.
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(Buy 1 Brick of unLTD's get a Free LTD, Buy 2 Bricks get 2 LTD's etc).
Gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on that. I had 24 in the cart last night and only 1 Red LTD was added (so I dropped it down to 12).
Just tried again (8:45am EST) and only 1 was added with 24.
As for shipping - I was already paying $15.30 for USPS priority (more than the medium flat rate box required). With 24+1 in the box, priority goes up to $25.48.
Haven't you guys embedded the flat-rates into your system yet? That's an insane price for shipping!
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(Buy 1 Brick of unLTD's get a Free LTD, Buy 2 Bricks get 2 LTD's etc).
Gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on that. I had 24 in the cart last night and only 1 Red LTD was added (so I dropped it down to 12).
Just tried again (8:45am EST) and only 1 was added with 24.
As for shipping - I was already paying $15.30 for USPS priority (more than the medium flat rate box required). With 24+1 in the box, priority goes up to $25.48.
Haven't you guys embedded the flat-rates into your system yet? That's an insane price for shipping!
Since Jake doesn't check in here a lot, you're probably better off pursuing that line of questioning with Ellusionist rather than here. Here, you'd just be wasting your breath. There, they can actually help you.
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We're unable to use Flat-Rate due to USPS restrictions on commercial shipping. I don't know the exact details - but I know the subject has been brought up before, and it was denied by USPS. We used to use media-mail as well to keep prices down - but USPS decided we couldn't do that anymore because cards don't count as Books/Documents/DVDs.
All our shipping is Weight + Dimension based, and although our international rates will soon (early March) be dropping significantly thanks to brokered deals, domestic is still whatever USPS charge us, which ain't exactly pretty, even with an account discount.
Gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on that. I had 24 in the cart last night and only 1 Red LTD was added (so I dropped it down to 12).
Just tried again (8:45am EST) and only 1 was added with 24.
I'd say either clear your cache, or check your cart again. The LTD is automatically added as a new line for each 12, up to a maximum of 3 per order (however if you want more than 47 decks, just contact us and we'll sort the right number of LTDs for you).
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-Jake
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"...and boom goes the dynamite!" Thanks, Jake.
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We're unable to use Flat-Rate due to USPS restrictions on commercial shipping. I don't know the exact details - but I know the subject has been brought up before, and it was denied by USPS. We used to use media-mail as well to keep prices down - but USPS decided we couldn't do that anymore because cards don't count as Books/Documents/DVDs.
All our shipping is Weight + Dimension based, and although our international rates will soon (early March) be dropping significantly thanks to brokered deals, domestic is still whatever USPS charge us, which ain't exactly pretty, even with an account discount.
Gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on that. I had 24 in the cart last night and only 1 Red LTD was added (so I dropped it down to 12).
Just tried again (8:45am EST) and only 1 was added with 24.
I'd say either clear your cache, or check your cart again. The LTD is automatically added as a new line for each 12, up to a maximum of 3 per order (however if you want more than 47 decks, just contact us and we'll sort the right number of LTDs for you).
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-Jake
nice! thats a smoking deal if you wanted to buy them. I mean at the current ebay rate for the original LTD deck thats almost like $30-50 back (if you dont already have the LTD and were planning on adding one to your collection) :D
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"...and boom goes the dynamite!" Thanks, Jake.
Well, not really "boom". All I said was that of last night and 8:45am it was not working correctly. Having checked just now it is working properly (without clearing my cache - I had left them in my cart). Of course, since my brick was shipped this afternoon, it's a moot point for me (since I'm not paying for shipping again) - I was just pointing out what was (but now is not) an error in the cart.
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"...and boom goes the dynamite!" Thanks, Jake.
Well, not really "boom". All I said was that of last night and 8:45am it was not working correctly. Having checked just now it is working properly (without clearing my cache - I had left them in my cart). Of course, since my brick was shipped this afternoon, it's a moot point for me (since I'm not paying for shipping again) - I was just pointing out what was (but now is not) an error in the cart.
In your shoes, I would have placed the order for the two bricks and emailed them after the fact to get it squared away. From what I know of E, it wouldn't have been a problem at all. Oh well.
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The blue version of the LTD deck is ready to be shipped. The crispness and buttery finish make these playing cards a joy to pick up and hold.
http://www.ellusionist.com/ltd-blue-playing-cards-deck.html
Plus for the 1st 72 hours, if you buy a brick of blue - you get a red deck!
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The blue version of the LTD deck is ready to be shipped. The crispness and buttery finish make these playing cards a joy to pick up and hold.
http://www.ellusionist.com/ltd-blue-playing-cards-deck.html
Plus for the 1st 72 hours, if you buy a brick of blue - you get a red deck!
Um, Dave? Perhaps you missed this post, from an actual Ellusionist employee... :))
Havent seen a link posted yet, so here ya go, decks can be purchased HERE: http://www.ellusionist.com/ltd-blue-playing-cards-deck.html
They're available to Black Club members only, they'll go up for public release at 1pm PST. For 72 Hours from Public Release purchases of 12 or more decks will receive an original Red LTD as well. (Buy 1 Brick of unLTD's get a Free LTD, Buy 2 Bricks get 2 LTD's etc).
These are exactly the same as the original LTDs, except for the coloration change. The Prototype we had up on Ebay was a one-of-a-kind with a different back design. It's the only sealed deck in existence (assuming it's still sealed) so unless the owner chooses to open the deck, the prototype back design will go undiscovered.
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sorry, when you're hoped up on "new card smell" and a new deck is released, you tend to miss the small stuff. I'm only human.
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I "accidentally" ( ;) ) just ordered a brick of these. But don't tell the missus, she thought I was buying her something blue and smooth to the touch for valentines day.
She'll be extra surprised when she opens her brand new shower curtain!!
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I "accidentally" ( ;) ) just ordered a brick of these. But don't tell the missus, she thought I was buying her something blue and smooth to the touch for valentines day.
She'll be extra surprised when she opens her brand new shower curtain!!
Just give me a heads-up as to when you're giving it to her - I'd like enough advance warning to put in my earplugs, 'cause I think I'll be able to hear her "surprise" from my side of the pond... :))
sorry, when you're hoped up on "new card smell" and a new deck is released, you tend to miss the small stuff. I'm only human.
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Mmmm... Magic Finish...
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I "accidentally" ( ;) ) just ordered a brick of these. But don't tell the missus, she thought I was buying her something blue and smooth to the touch for valentines day.
She'll be extra surprised when she opens her brand new shower curtain!!
just picked up a brick myself, couldnt pass it up..
...I can stop anytime i want! I swear!!! :karrit:
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I "accidentally" ( ;) ) just ordered a brick of these. But don't tell the missus, she thought I was buying her something blue and smooth to the touch for valentines day.
She'll be extra surprised when she opens her brand new shower curtain!!
just picked up a brick myself, couldnt pass it up..
...I can stop anytime i want! I swear!!! :karrit:
FREEZE - INTERNET SPENDING POLICE!! Put the mouse DOWN, and SLOWLY walk AWAY from the computer... :))
I just got three - it's a "regular stock" item and I already have red LTD decks.
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Well i recieved my decks today... And i ended up having a surprise...
All the new blue ltds have a seal that says ltd (duh :p) and inside it seems that every deck has 1 extra Queen of hearts from a red ltd deck.
Im not 100% sure yet since i havent opened any other ltd but maybe somebody can confirm this?
Because i was thinking that since ellusionist said that no more red ltds were going to be made, then the only explanation for the red extra red queens is that they reprinted it.
The other plausible option would be to open the same amount of red ltds just to put 1 red queen in each blue ltd....which sounds stupid....
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Well i recieved my decks today... And i ended up having a surprise...
All the new blue ltds have a seal that says ltd (duh :p) and inside it seems that every deck has 1 extra Queen of hearts from a red ltd deck.
Im not 100% sure yet since i havent opened any other ltd but maybe somebody can confirm this?
Because i was thinking that since ellusionist said that no more red ltds were going to be made, then the only explanation for the red extra red queens is that they reprinted it.
The other plausible option would be to open the same amount of red ltds just to put 1 red queen in each blue ltd....which sounds stupid....
they just decide to include the red ltd QOH as a gaff in blue ltd, the same things as seasons platinum edition, its that simple.
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I "accidentally" ( ;) ) just ordered a brick of these. But don't tell the missus, she thought I was buying her something blue and smooth to the touch for valentines day.
She'll be extra surprised when she opens her brand new shower curtain!!
just picked up a brick myself, couldn't pass it up..
...I can stop anytime i want! I swear!!! :karrit:
FREEZE - INTERNET SPENDING POLICE!! Put the mouse DOWN, and SLOWLY walk AWAY from the computer... :))
I just got three - it's a "regular stock" item and I already have red LTD decks.
LOL! I know we all have our habits though. at least i gave up smoking. ;)
yeah To be honest I probably would have only bought a few myself but since I missed the boat on the red LTD i figured this was my chance.
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yeah To be honest I probably would have only bought a few myself but since I missed the boat on the red LTD i figured this was my chance.
Sure, but there's a huge difference. Red LTD was strictly a single-print-run, never-to-be-redone limited edition, while blue LTD is a "buy all you want, we'll make more" unlimited edition... I will likely be able to buy this next month or next year without hassle.
Wait... You're probably referring to the red LTD giveaway for buying a brick, aren't you...? :))
they just decide to include the red ltd QOH as a gaff in blue ltd, the same things as seasons platinum edition, its that simple.
HOPC did the same thing with the NOCs and (unintentionally) both versions of Altruism. Making the card with a different back is more unique, but it allows for things like Chicago Opener and similar tricks requiring a duplicate card from a different-colored deck.
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yeah To be honest I probably would have only bought a few myself but since I missed the boat on the red LTD i figured this was my chance.
Sure, but there's a huge difference. Red LTD was strictly a single-print-run, never-to-be-redone limited edition, while blue LTD is a "buy all you want, we'll make more" unlimited edition... I will likely be able to buy this next month or next year without hassle.
Wait... You're probably referring to the red LTD giveaway for buying a brick, aren't you...? :))
In deed I am sir. Indeed I am ;) on a similar note, If i understand correctly the red ltd. decks were never actually for sale but for special give away's only. Can anyone elaborate on this for me or direct me to a thread with that information. Thanks guys. :)
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yeah To be honest I probably would have only bought a few myself but since I missed the boat on the red LTD i figured this was my chance.
Sure, but there's a huge difference. Red LTD was strictly a single-print-run, never-to-be-redone limited edition, while blue LTD is a "buy all you want, we'll make more" unlimited edition... I will likely be able to buy this next month or next year without hassle.
Wait... You're probably referring to the red LTD giveaway for buying a brick, aren't you...? :))
In deed I am sir. Indeed I am ;) on a similar note, If i understand correctly the red ltd. decks were never actually for sale but for special give away's only. Can anyone elaborate on this for me or direct me to a thread with that information. Thanks guys. :)
Just like the Bicycle Black Ghost 1st Edition and the Gold Arcane, the LTD deck was made in a print run of 5K and never offered outright for purchase, just as a promotional item or contest prize. Unlike those other two decks, however, the LTD was part of the regular "buy X amount, get this deck" prize tiers only during the 2010 holiday season - there's been a few limited time offers since then, but no indefinite listing on the prize chart like the other two decks. The only rare premium decks that E made available for sale were the Red Artifice and the Sultan Republic Treasury Edition.
The Artifice was made in a lot of 5,000 of which 3,000 were made available for purchase, limit one brick per person (many people created multiple accounts to circumvent this) - it dragged their servers down to a crawl for several hours, and a large percentage of customers never got a chance. The remaining 2,000 were made available in the same manner as the Gold Arcane and BG1E, as tiers for purchasing a certain amount of merchandise, as giveaways as part of a promotional sale or as a contest prize.
The Treasury deck was unique - only 2,500 were "made available" (implying that more may have been printed without actually saying as much), and they were originally only being sold to people who successfully figured out the clues built into the original Sultan Republic deck to find the link to buy this version. However, many people either stumbled on the link by trial and error (E uses fairly consistent URLs for their products) or they discovered it when someone else leaked it. After a short while, E made these available for general sale with limits on how many could be bought - I think the limit started at three decks and went down to two, again with some people circumventing the limit by creating multiple accounts. At this point, they're simply unavailable. Also, you should know that because they decided to redesign the regular Sultan Republic deck, those are no longer being printed beyond the initial print run, making them de facto rare in the same way as the blue Artifice v1 deck is before the v2 model was released.
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yeah To be honest I probably would have only bought a few myself but since I missed the boat on the red LTD i figured this was my chance.
Sure, but there's a huge difference. Red LTD was strictly a single-print-run, never-to-be-redone limited edition, while blue LTD is a "buy all you want, we'll make more" unlimited edition... I will likely be able to buy this next month or next year without hassle.
Wait... You're probably referring to the red LTD giveaway for buying a brick, aren't you...? :))
In deed I am sir. Indeed I am ;) on a similar note, If i understand correctly the red ltd. decks were never actually for sale but for special give away's only. Can anyone elaborate on this for me or direct me to a thread with that information. Thanks guys. :)
Just like the Bicycle Black Ghost 1st Edition and the Gold Arcane, the LTD deck was made in a print run of 5K and never offered outright for purchase, just as a promotional item or contest prize. Unlike those other two decks, however, the LTD was part of the regular "buy X amount, get this deck" prize tiers only during the 2010 holiday season - there's been a few limited time offers since then, but no indefinite listing on the prize chart like the other two decks. The only rare premium decks that E made available for sale were the Red Artifice and the Sultan Republic Treasury Edition.
The Artifice was made in a lot of 5,000 of which 3,000 were made available for purchase, limit one brick per person (many people created multiple accounts to circumvent this) - it dragged their servers down to a crawl for several hours, and a large percentage of customers never got a chance. The remaining 2,000 were made available in the same manner as the Gold Arcane and BG1E, as tiers for purchasing a certain amount of merchandise, as giveaways as part of a promotional sale or as a contest prize.
The Treasury deck was unique - only 2,500 were "made available" (implying that more may have been printed without actually saying as much), and they were originally only being sold to people who successfully figured out the clues built into the original Sultan Republic deck to find the link to buy this version. However, many people either stumbled on the link by trial and error (E uses fairly consistent URLs for their products) or they discovered it when someone else leaked it. After a short while, E made these available for general sale with limits on how many could be bought - I think the limit started at three decks and went down to two, again with some people circumventing the limit by creating multiple accounts. At this point, they're simply unavailable. Also, you should know that because they decided to redesign the regular Sultan Republic deck, those are no longer being printed beyond the initial print run, making them de facto rare in the same way as the blue Artifice v1 deck is before the v2 model was released.
Don, as always you are a plethora of knowledge. Thanks for the Info! :)
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Muhahahaha, my brick arrived today (included with it, a free red ltd ;D). I love the faces a thousand times more than the back design. The seal is also kinda weird imo
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I like the look of these but have not had the chance to try these (or the red ones). I look forward to a review to pop up soon.
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Muhahahaha, my brick arrived today (included with it, a free red ltd ;D). I love the faces a thousand times more than the back design. The seal is also kinda weird imo
The seal is the letters "LTD" microprinted over and over. I can see that and I practically need glasses!
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Ordered my deck finally today - along with a deck of Masters. I have the Black Shadow Masters, but have never had a normal deck. But I am really looking forward to the LTDs
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so I'm sure you guys have mentioned this before, but the LTD's say that they are the Illusionist Playing Card Company - how long have they been mnftr their own cards?
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Please please please don't double post. Just edit your previous one. But we did discuss that a while back... It would probably take a combination of amazing memory and great search skills to find exactly which thread. But the just if it was that Ellusionist seems to be a little split at the moment.
We know them as first and foremost a magic company. Yet they label their new decks "Ellusionist Playing Card Company". They seem to be confused on which direction they want to go to. Although, with what they're selling, I'd say they want to stick with magic.
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Please please please don't double post.
Thanks, I wasn't trying to double post my two posts are 2 days apart. I was worried if I didn't make a new post this time, my question would sit on page 2 all alone
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Please please please don't double post.
Thanks, I wasn't trying to "double post" my two posts are 2 days apart.
It's all good. It's just usually a rule of thumb or even a rule in most forums. But double post simply refers to having a post under your own post doesn't it? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyways, to bring it back on topic. I still have been hesitant to purchase this deck due to not really liking the design in general. I didn't really like the red LTDs to begin with. I think Ellusionist is just trying to milk these LTD decks for all their worth. Nothing wrong with that, seeing as everyone else does that with everything else.
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Please please please don't double post.
Thanks, I wasn't trying to "double post" my two posts are 2 days apart.
It's all good. It's just usually a rule of thumb or even a rule in most forums. But double post simply refers to having a post under your own post doesn't it? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyways, to bring it back on topic. I still have been hesitant to purchase this deck due to not really liking the design in general. I didn't really like the red LTDs to begin with. I think Ellusionist is just trying to milk these LTD decks for all their worth. Nothing wrong with that, seeing as everyone else does that with everything else.
Michael, his double post is okay. Like he said, it was 2 days apart. When we refer to double posting we mean within minutes of each other or possibly a few hours. No harm or foul done DavidKenney. Your all good.
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Please please please don't double post.
Thanks, I wasn't trying to "double post" my two posts are 2 days apart.
It's all good. It's just usually a rule of thumb or even a rule in most forums. But double post simply refers to having a post under your own post doesn't it? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyways, to bring it back on topic. I still have been hesitant to purchase this deck due to not really liking the design in general. I didn't really like the red LTDs to begin with. I think Ellusionist is just trying to milk these LTD decks for all their worth. Nothing wrong with that, seeing as everyone else does that with everything else.
Michael, his double post is okay. Like he said, it was 2 days apart. When we refer to double posting we mean within minutes of each other or possibly a few hours. No harm or foul done DavidKenney. Your all good.
Thanks for the correction. Now I know better. Always willing to teach but honestly prefer learning more. So thanks for the info Knobz.
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Please please please don't double post.
Thanks, I wasn't trying to "double post" my two posts are 2 days apart.
It's all good. It's just usually a rule of thumb or even a rule in most forums. But double post simply refers to having a post under your own post doesn't it? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyways, to bring it back on topic. I still have been hesitant to purchase this deck due to not really liking the design in general. I didn't really like the red LTDs to begin with. I think Ellusionist is just trying to milk these LTD decks for all their worth. Nothing wrong with that, seeing as everyone else does that with everything else.
Michael, his double post is okay. Like he said, it was 2 days apart. When we refer to double posting we mean within minutes of each other or possibly a few hours. No harm or foul done DavidKenney. Your all good.
Thanks for the correction. Now I know better. Always willing to teach but honestly prefer learning more. So thanks for the info Knobz.
No problem Michael. As far as the Blue LTD deck goes, I wanna grab a few decks but am waiting for the release and reviews for the new effect called Invisible by Damien Savina. That way I can save on shipping and get everything together. I have 3 Red LTD decks and haven't even opened up one. With the blue decks coming out I really don't need to now. But in time I will.
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This is why you don't moderate when you aren't a moderator
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Just an FYI on our double/triple/quintuple post rules: You can do whatever you want here until people/staff get sick of your shit, then you get warnings, and then you get banned.
So the perks of being a contributing member is that you can get away with a little spam/double posting. It's all about... LE RATIOS.
Okay back on topic.
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As far as the Blue LTD deck goes, I wanna grab a few decks but am waiting for the release and reviews for the new effect called Invisible by Damien Savina. That way I can save on shipping and get everything together. I have 3 Red LTD decks and haven't even opened up one. With the blue decks coming out I really don't need to now. But in time I will.
You might want to open a red pack sooner than you think. The blue deck has a gaff card for the red deck, an extra queen of hearts. Very useful tool for certain tricks, having two of the same card...
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The blue deck has a gaff card for the red deck, an extra queen of hearts.
spent so much time looking at the faces I totally missed that
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We know them as first and foremost a magic company. Yet they label their new decks "Ellusionist Playing Card Company". They seem to be confused on which direction they want to go to. Although, with what they're selling, I'd say they want to stick with magic.
Confused? Given the fact that we were the company to start the Custom Playing Cards market ten years ago, I'd say we're very well aware of exactly who we are. The Ellusionist Playing Card Company is a subsidiary of Ellusionist.com LLC, which gives us a little more leeway when it comes to the Legal Division when printing through USPCC.
EPCC has a different logo (the Phoenix) which you'll see printed on the bottom of the box and on our Colossal Close-Up Mat. We've been printing under EPCC for about 9 months now.
-Jake
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As far as the Blue LTD deck goes, I wanna grab a few decks but am waiting for the release and reviews for the new effect called Invisible by Damien Savina. That way I can save on shipping and get everything together. I have 3 Red LTD decks and haven't even opened up one. With the blue decks coming out I really don't need to now. But in time I will.
You might want to open a red pack sooner than you think. The blue deck has a gaff card for the red deck, an extra queen of hearts. Very useful tool for certain tricks, having two of the same card...
well, there are better ways of doing a duplicate card trick than opening a rare deck of cards
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My Blue LTD arrive today. very awesome deck. I like it.
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We know them as first and foremost a magic company. Yet they label their new decks "Ellusionist Playing Card Company". They seem to be confused on which direction they want to go to. Although, with what they're selling, I'd say they want to stick with magic.
Confused? Given the fact that we were the company to start the Custom Playing Cards market ten years ago, I'd say we're very well aware of exactly who we are. The Ellusionist Playing Card Company is a subsidiary of Ellusionist.com LLC, which gives us a little more leeway when it comes to the Legal Division when printing through USPCC.
EPCC has a different logo (the Phoenix) which you'll see printed on the bottom of the box and on our Colossal Close-Up Mat. We've been printing under EPCC for about 9 months now.
-Jake
I understand now that EPCC is a subsidiary of Ellusionist.com LLC. I hadn't given it much thought while I initially posted. The last time I thought about it, Ellusionist had just started printing under EPCC. When this first occurred my thought was that Ellusionist was moving away from being a magic company and towards a playing card company. Obviously you can be a magic company that does playing cards as well. I don't ponder the present image of a company on a daily basis so I had thought in the past that Ellusionist might be changing markets and never have it another thought. It seems I am the one confused.
And if Ellusionist was the ones to start the custom playing card market, a thank you is in order. But that was not my point and doesn't show that the company "knows who they are". Just that they had an amazing idea and sold it. I'm sure we've all done amazing things out of character that would puzzle an onlooker. :D
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We know them as first and foremost a magic company. Yet they label their new decks "Ellusionist Playing Card Company". They seem to be confused on which direction they want to go to. Although, with what they're selling, I'd say they want to stick with magic.
Confused? Given the fact that we were the company to start the Custom Playing Cards market ten years ago, I'd say we're very well aware of exactly who we are. The Ellusionist Playing Card Company is a subsidiary of Ellusionist.com LLC, which gives us a little more leeway when it comes to the Legal Division when printing through USPCC.
EPCC has a different logo (the Phoenix) which you'll see printed on the bottom of the box and on our Colossal Close-Up Mat. We've been printing under EPCC for about 9 months now.
-Jake
Just out of curiosity, how does that leeway thing work? I can't imagine how that would work, but then again, I am not a magic company with a subsidiary that makes playing card designs...