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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: Don Boyer on January 31, 2013, 11:14:14 AM
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Learned about this at 52cartes, did more research at primepokercards.com - they've updated the site.
The Noir deck appears to be a nod to the Fulton's Clip Joint and Casino decks, but it's supposed to actually tell a story.
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Definitely interested! Can't wait to hear more info! I'm a fan of the Pr1me playing cards so I will be excite to hear more soon. :)
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Hmm.
Didn't give us much in the teaser. It'll definitely be interesting if all the courts are styled like that.
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Hmm.
Didn't give us much in the teaser. It'll definitely be interesting if all the courts are styled like that.
You already are interesting... :))
The Prime decks are all styled like that.
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Hmm.
Didn't give us much in the teaser. It'll definitely be interesting if all the courts are styled like that.
You already are interesting... :))
The Prime decks are all styled like that.
Kewl!
Never owned one. Might have to pick some up. :)
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Hey did the Pr1me decks really handle close to JNuggs like they try and advertise? I have the Pr1me sketch decks and they don't seem too different from other custom decks. Just wondering if they handled special.
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Hey did the Pr1me decks really handle close to JNuggs like they try and advertise? I have the Pr1me sketch decks and they don't seem too different from other custom decks. Just wondering if they handled special.
They handle well enough, I'd say, but they didn't seem terribly exceptional in the handling category to me. Call it a better-than-average deck, average being USPC's off-the-shelf brands/models.
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Hey did the Pr1me decks really handle close to JNuggs like they try and advertise? I have the Pr1me sketch decks and they don't seem too different from other custom decks. Just wondering if they handled special.
They handle well enough, I'd say, but they didn't seem terribly exceptional in the handling category to me. Call it a better-than-average deck, average being USPC's off-the-shelf brands/models.
Hmmm "well enough" sounds like the appropriate description. What a shame. I was going to pick up a deck if they were special. Thanks again Don.
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Hey did the Pr1me decks really handle close to JNuggs like they try and advertise? I have the Pr1me sketch decks and they don't seem too different from other custom decks. Just wondering if they handled special.
They handle well enough, I'd say, but they didn't seem terribly exceptional in the handling category to me. Call it a better-than-average deck, average being USPC's off-the-shelf brands/models.
Hmmm "well enough" sounds like the appropriate description. What a shame. I was going to pick up a deck if they were special. Thanks again Don.
Look, the Pr1me Sketch deck was likely made at the same press at the Series 001, 2nd Ed. If you felt that was a good deck for you performance-wise, then the Series 001s will probably suit you fine. Also, some people go for the artwork in a deck, not just the performance.
And, by the way, comparing them to Jerry's Nugget cards is not exactly a fair comparison. Few decks out today handle like those do, or so I'm told since I don't own any and have perhaps once touched them. (It was kinda funny - Lee Asher was doing a few experiments with the cards and there were several of them in various stages of being cut apart...I could imagine collectors everywhere, jaws dropping to the floor so fast they break on impact...) But my point is, they handle just fine. It's not Magic Finish slippery, but some people actually dislike MF because they feel it has too much glide, making the cards harder to handle. They're good cards, better than average.
It boggles my mind at times how obsessed some people get about stocks, finishes and handling. I'll grant that there are some cards as dumpy and clumpy as cow pies, but the vast majority of current-issue custom decks (and not just from USPC) handle pretty fine if you ask me. There's no point in splitting hairs about exactly how thick this stock is compared to that or how snappy or slippery or shiny or whatever that they happen to be. There's a range that's considered great for performing by the majority of people, and all modern custom decks fall into that category.
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Don't get me wrong, I agree with everything you said. I was just curious as to if they were something special that I must have. You can't find Pr1me decks anywhere "cheap". If they were special I want to know so that I can prepare myself in spending some cash to get them. If they're good decks, as not super special, then I can fight the urge to own one! That was my whole point in wondering :)
Plus, I like the artwork but I don't like buying them at an inflated price (my definition of not "cheap").
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Tannen's Magic has the blue Series 001, 2nd Ed. and the Sketch deck for the lowest prices. In my opinion they are well worth it. They feel very similar to the new Legends deck that just came out and they really look amazing.
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Tannen's Magic has the blue Series 001, 2nd Ed. and the Sketch deck for the lowest prices. In my opinion they are well worth it. They feel very similar to the new Legends deck that just came out and they really look amazing.
Thanks! I'll probably pick up the blue Series 001, 2nd Ed. I already have a Pr1me Sketch deck and don't feel the need for another one yet. Thanks for the info :D
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Don't get me wrong, I agree with everything you said. I was just curious as to if they were something special that I must have. You can't find Pr1me decks anywhere "cheap". If they were special I want to know so that I can prepare myself in spending some cash to get them. If they're good decks, as not super special, then I can fight the urge to own one! That was my whole point in wondering :)
Plus, I like the artwork but I don't like buying them at an inflated price (my definition of not "cheap").
It's actually a good idea to experiment now and then and pick up decks that weren't made in Cincinnati or Erlanger... The Series 001 1st Ed. were made in Italy (hard to find those) and all others since are made in China. Say what you want about China, but they actually have the capacity to make some impressive decks of cards. I met Lee Asher last spring after he returned from a tour through Asia and he had a lot to say on the topic. (We all know they also make some very crappy decks. The reason for this is that until recently, most of the best decks made in China were actually reserved for domestic use and sale!)
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Just found this on 52 Cartes. States that Pr1me Noir will be available around June 15 (I'm assuming of this year) on primepokercards.com. It also had this picture posted along with it.
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Just found this on 52 Cartes. States that Pr1me Noir will be available around June 15 (I'm assuming of this year) on primepokercards.com. It also had this picture posted along with it.
That fedora (and I use the term loosely) looks more like it belongs on the head of a scarecrow... The comic-book art isn't doing it for me.
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Just found this on 52 Cartes. States that Pr1me Noir will be available around June 15 (I'm assuming of this year) on primepokercards.com. It also had this picture posted along with it.
That fedora (and I use the term loosely) looks more like it belongs on the head of a scarecrow... The comic-book art isn't doing it for me.
:D now that you mention it, that "fedora" does look a lot like a scarecrow hat :)) not very fitting and it sticks out now that I notice it. But the comic-book art actually doesn't turn me off too much at the moment. I guess we'll have to see more of the deck to know for sure. Regardless, I'm still interested!
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Hmm.
... It'll definitely be interesting if all the courts are styled like that.
(http://skypeblogs.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/fingerscrossed_80.png)
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[Edit-I am mistaken when I say 002; this should be 001. All apologies.]
Heads up to all the prime 1st edition; these are from Italy and shrink wrapped outside the box. The box has a seal on it as well. Don also informed me awhile ago that the hair detail lines in the angel are very faint on this box in comparison to the 002 edition.
There is also a big goof in the blue version. There are two versions; I believe that they inserted the paper the wrong direction during printing for a large batch. The misprints are nearly impossible to le Paul spread but feel over worn(or dead) when bowed the length of the card. I have a brick of these and figured out that the misprint is a darker blue box while the true version (like the reds) is in a lighter blue. The color difference is extremely subtle, I tried to photograph the difference for y'all but it doesn't come out. Best way to tell is to hold it up to a light and look at the graphite pattern.
The 2nd editions; still says 001 and italy on bottom but they are different. The cards inside the box are shrink wrapped and there are two extra cards in this deck. One of the prime seal logo with the wing angel and the other a blonde wearing red and says play responsibly at bottom. The sketch decks also have these two extra cards as well as stickers.
I have handled all three decks and in my opinion the 001's have the best finish while the sketch deck has the worst. The finishes are all essentially the same but every so slightly different. Maybe the true first edition has three coats....
I love this deck because I can do lifts easy as cake as well as other simple tricks. Then I can switch over and do a few flourishes no problem. It's my perfect middle of the road deck. Plus it has über thin boarders which I will always dig.
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I have handled all three decks and in my opinion the 001's have the best finish while the sketch deck has the worst. The finishes are all essentially the same but every so slightly different. Maybe the true first edition has three coats....
Ben, there's been three releases SO FAR from Pr1me - 001 First Ed., 001 Second Ed. and Sketch. Two upcoming releases are 001 Third Ed. and Noir. We have other topics for the first three decks mentioned, the ones that are already in release.
When you say that the 001s have the best finish, WHICH 001s are you talking about?
When you say you've tried "all three" - WHICH three? Series 001 Third Ed. isn't in release yet as far as I know.
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Don, Sorry about that. When I say they have the best finish I am referring to the true 001 first editions. The ones that are shrink wrapped on the outside of the box.
By all three I am referring to 001 first edition, 001 second edition, and sketch as previously mentioned.
below is a line up of the blue decks; two different version of 001 first edition including the misprint with the sideways card stock on far left (on bottom on second photo). Then far right is the 001 second edition.
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Hi Guys I have finded this on Pr1me's website
finally they are lunching the new deck
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Hi Guys I have finded this on Pr1me's website
finally they are lunching the new deck
Quite interesting and I'd be in for some, but that shipping is killer. Will CARC be carrying these as well like the other deck or is there a different venue to purchase their decks from that doesn't require selling a kidney to cover the shipping to the US?
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Hi Guys I have finded this on Pr1me's website
finally they are lunching the new deck
Quite interesting and I'd be in for some, but that shipping is killer. Will CARC be carrying these as well like the other deck or is there a different venue to purchase their decks from that doesn't require selling a kidney to cover the shipping to the US?
There's a good chance that CARC will carry it, but it's not a certainty. I'll ask Bill when I'm in touch with him next.
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We're probably going to be stocking these also, no solid news yet.
P.S - We've also got 100 Sketch coming in today. http://jpplayingcards.co.uk/pr1me-sketch-playing-cards
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We should have the No1r deck in stock within 7 business days, and they're available to pre-order now also. http://jpplayingcards.co.uk/pr1me-no1r-playing-cards
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I have bought a noir deck, i'm waiting to receive it...but now I have found it un youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoMhKr4Mh4Y
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There's a good chance that CARC will carry it, but it's not a certainty. I'll ask Bill when I'm in touch with him next.
Don, any word?
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Hi princess, I have seen your collection....it's amazing.
Compliments
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There's a good chance that CARC will carry it, but it's not a certainty. I'll ask Bill when I'm in touch with him next.
Don, any word?
Not yet, but I'll be in touch with him before the weekend.
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Thanks massy. I'm still waiting for Mike from BMPokerWorld to get more of the deck displays in so I can hang the most of the collection on the wall. I've been waiting months now. Ugh.
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Thanks massy. I'm still waiting for Mike from BMPokerWorld to get more of the deck displays in so I can hang the most of the collection on the wall. I've been waiting months now. Ugh.
You think he's actually going to get more in?
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Thanks massy. I'm still waiting for Mike from BMPokerWorld to get more of the deck displays in so I can hang the most of the collection on the wall. I've been waiting months now. Ugh.
You think he's actually going to get more in?
It might be simpler and faster to make your own. We have at least a few topics on how people display their decks and what displays they've made for them.
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Thanks massy. I'm still waiting for Mike from BMPokerWorld to get more of the deck displays in so I can hang the most of the collection on the wall. I've been waiting months now. Ugh.
Collectableplayingcards.com has the same thing in stock and cheaper by about $30.
http://collectableplayingcards.com/playing-card-frame-deck-acrylic-playing-card-display-collectable-playing-cards-p-45663.html
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Hi Don,
Sorry about my slow response but I was away.
I've decided that Conjuring Arts will carry the No1r deck. I'm not sure on the price but they won't be super expensive. Probably $7.95 a deck plus shipping.
One caveat is that these are from a different factory than either Pr1me editions or Sketch decks. For me, as a cardman, I prefer the first Pr1me decks over either sketch decks or No1rs but that is just me. In fact after using the same Pr1me deck (red) for over a year it is still a favorite. After they break in they stay in a very Jerry's like condition and I love that. This is not the case for the Sketch decks and I haven't field tested the No1r enough to make any claims about it.
We will build a product and have the decks available very soon.
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Thanks massy. I'm still waiting for Mike from bmpokercrap to get more of the deck displays in so I can hang the most of the collection on the wall. I've been waiting months now. Ugh.
Collectableplayingcards.com has the same thing in stock and cheaper by about $30.
http://collectableplayingcards.com/playing-card-frame-deck-acrylic-playing-card-display-collectable-playing-cards-p-45663.html
These are great - here's a pix of one we have with old advertising and Congress #606 decks from the early 20th century by USPC
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Hi Don,
Sorry about my slow response but I was away.
I've decided that Conjuring Arts will carry the No1r deck. I'm not sure on the price but they won't be super expensive. Probably $7.95 a deck plus shipping.
One caveat is that these are from a different factory than either Pr1me editions or Sketch decks. For me, as a cardman, I prefer the first Pr1me decks over either sketch decks or No1rs but that is just me. In fact after using the same Pr1me deck (red) for over a year it is still a favorite. After they break in they stay in a very Jerry's like condition and I love that. This is not the case for the Sketch decks and I haven't field tested the No1r enough to make any claims about it.
We will build a product and have the decks available very soon.
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Excellent! Thanks for the update!
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Hi Don,
Sorry about my slow response but I was away.
I've decided that Conjuring Arts will carry the No1r deck. I'm not sure on the price but they won't be super expensive. Probably $7.95 a deck plus shipping.
One caveat is that these are from a different factory than either Pr1me editions or Sketch decks. For me, as a cardman, I prefer the first Pr1me decks over either sketch decks or No1rs but that is just me. In fact after using the same Pr1me deck (red) for over a year it is still a favorite. After they break in they stay in a very Jerry's like condition and I love that. This is not the case for the Sketch decks and I haven't field tested the No1r enough to make any claims about it.
We will build a product and have the decks available very soon.
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Bill or anyone that may know - when you say first Pr1me decks, does that refer to the 001 1st and/or 2nd editions?
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Bill or anyone that may know - when you say first Pr1me decks, does that refer to the 001 1st and/or 2nd editions?
I'm referring to both the first two Pr1mes. I realize that there was some differences in printing but the quality and feel seems to be the same. The Sketch and now No1r are substantially different.
Although having said that I found that some of the blue Pr1mes are really really soft, but not all! I don't know why or how to tell other than to open them and flex them.
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Bill or anyone that may know - when you say first Pr1me decks, does that refer to the 001 1st and/or 2nd editions?
Although having said that I found that some of the blue Pr1mes are really really soft, but not all! I don't know why or how to tell other than to open them and flex them.
Pardon my continued ignorance - Is really really soft good or bad? My main goal has always been to find the best handling deck, and so far nothing has matched the Exquisites, but I'm looking to pick up one of those Pr1mes and want to make sure I get the right one :)
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Pardon my continued ignorance - Is really really soft good or bad? My main goal has always been to find the best handling deck, and so far nothing has matched the Exquisites, but I'm looking to pick up one of those Pr1mes and want to make sure I get the right one :)
I agree with you that the Blue Exquisites are the best yet (even better than the Red).
If you like the Exquisites then you should try the red Pr1mes. When I say the blue Pr1mes are sometimes too soft I mean they were freakishly soft. I don't know what happened in the production but they are crazy soft (some decks, that is). I would bet you will like the red Pr1mes.
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Pardon my continued ignorance - Is really really soft good or bad? My main goal has always been to find the best handling deck, and so far nothing has matched the Exquisites, but I'm looking to pick up one of those Pr1mes and want to make sure I get the right one :)
I agree with you that the Blue Exquisites are the best yet (even better than the Red).
If you like the Exquisites then you should try the red Pr1mes. When I say the blue Pr1mes are sometimes too soft I mean they were freakishly soft. I don't know what happened in the production but they are crazy soft (some decks, that is). I would bet you will like the red Pr1mes.
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Thanks Bill! Yeah, those blue exquisites are my absolute favorites for handling - I've actually tried not to break them in too much as I only have the one (and I'm planning on keeping the red sealed as a collectible)
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You think he's actually going to get more in?
I hope so, eventually. I originally ordered 6 from him but 1 was damaged. Now there is a "hole" in my display wall waiting for another case. I would like for it to match and not be different from the 5 I've already hung (even already have the screws predrilled). Once I start on the next the wall, I can use a different brand/type. I guess I'm just a little OCD. Thanks for all the suggestions, though.
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A little update. Our supply of the No1r deck arrived today and we expect to put these on sale Wednesday at 1pm.
Single decks will be $7.95 each plus postage and there will be some deals for bricks as well.
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A little update. Our supply of the No1r deck arrived today and we expect to put these on sale Wednesday at 1pm.
Single decks will be $7.95 each plus postage and there will be some deals for bricks as well.
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Are you going to get in red pr1mes again by any chance? I've been wanting one since you told me how awesome they are but haven't pulled the trigger yet...though I am picking up some more Exquisites ;)
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Unfortunately I don't believe that there are any red Pr1mes left. A year or so ago I think we bought the remaining stock and they are now sold out.
Next time you put an order at Conjuring Arts mention this conversation and I'll try to find a deck floating around the office and send it to you with my compliments.
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I'm actually placing an order right now for that "Exquisite Deal" which, we should probably start a topic for if one hasn't already, really is exquisite.
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I'll ask Jen to pop a "spare" pr1me deck in for you! And thanks for having such a cool avatar photo.
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Tannen's has Red and Blues for sale http://www.tannens.com/shop//cart.php?m=product_detail&p=9417 (http://www.tannens.com/shop//cart.php?m=product_detail&p=9417)
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For those interested we are selling our small stock of No1r starting now. They are $7.95 per deck with a discount at 12 and above.
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Arrrgggh waited to get these but when I could not find them anywhere I finally caved in and bought a deck from my overseas guy at twice the price. and yes it was 2 days ago hehe. Oh well
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Sorry about that!! When they arrive, if you love them you can stock up with us!
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I just got mine today. Sadly both tucks arrived dinged on one side. Anyway, art wise, it's not the best but I'm loving these and the rough look it has. That and I'm a fan of the noir theme.
However, could anyone chime in on how these cards handle? I'm no cardist so I can't really decide on my on.
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I just got mine today. Sadly both tucks arrived dinged on one side. Anyway, art wise, it's not the best but I'm loving these and the rough look it has. That and I'm a fan of the noir theme.
However, could anyone chime in on how these cards handle? I'm no cardist so I can't really decide on my on.
I am new to card magic, flourishing and collecting, so my opinion is probably not much more informed than yours. I personally like the way this deck handles. It is starting to fan better as I have worked it in a bit, but the fans are still clumpy. However it spreads on the table nicely... The dribbles and springs are pretty spot on. It riffle shuffles very well and bridges are easy to do. My deck is starting to develop tiny knicks, and I think that is my fault for not carefully placing them back in the box. Unlike USPCC decks the box has a flap on top and bottom, so I have been catching the cards on the bottom flap when I put them back in the box. I am enjoying this deck quite a bit. It is my first Pr1me deck so I do not have a comparison to the other Pr1me decks. I love the art work. It just speaks to me. I am a big comic book fan so that may explain that! I also love the way the pips have the art in them to indicate the flavor of the suit. I hope this helps!