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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: S. Carey on August 09, 2013, 06:42:20 PM
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We are in for some teasing over the next couple of days.....for those that haven't seen it yet
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If you look from the shoulders up, that looks like a Swedish guy. Just me?
also, yeah. Probably the Sultans with a color change.
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I think it will actually be a redesign/upgrade rather than a mere colour change. E said a while back that they wanted to release an updated Republic deck and hence is also why they are no longer selling the Sultan Republic deck.
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If you look from the shoulders up, that looks like a Swedish guy. Just me?
yep
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Update from E
"|| COUNT IT DOWN || Coming August 14th, Republic No. 02 is a complete redesign of the Republic Playing Card series. Clean, Focussed and Epic. Watch the first behind-the-scenes teaser now, and be sure to check back daily as we reveal more. http://elusn.st/PlayResponsibly "
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Chattanooga train:
Creator) Harry Warren
Destination) Terminal Station
Crazy Train:
Creator) Ozzy Osborne
Destination) Off the rails.
Hype Train:
Creator) Ellusionist
Destination) All the money.
Choo Choo
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I'm in agreement with Froggo on this. E stopped making the Sultan Republic deck for a re-do, and this appears to be that re-do. What stands out most to me is that nowhere does it actually say "Sultan" - it looks like they're dropping that from the name of the deck. In addition, the box design bears striking familiarity with the Madison decks - perhaps Ellusionist found the design so popular that they're using it like a company design for future tuck boxes, including Republic No. 02?
Also, it says nowhere anything about the cards in the box being a white deck. Daniel Madison's decks all came in white boxes, and none of them were white...
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Simple and classy. Not sure if i like the back design yet. Strikingly similar to Madison Dealers.. interesting..
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Clean? Sure. Focused...perhaps, but on what is unclear. Epic? Methinks not. Looks like about a half dozen other decks already out there and doesn't seem to speak to the "sultan" motif at all.
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Clean? Sure. Focused...perhaps, but on what is unclear. Epic? Methinks not. Looks like about a half dozen other decks already out there and doesn't seem to speak to the "sultan" motif at all.
...which might be why they dropped "Sultan" from the name...
It's their "Bee Diamond Back" without the marking system of the Madison Dealers. I'm pretty sure they've never made a deck with a repeating pattern into the bleed like the Diamond Backs before aside from the aforementioned marked deck. Put a marking system on a deck, and many card players won't touch it - they don't want to even be suspected of cheating, and all the "printed" marked decks will fail a riffle test done with a sharp eye. (Inks and daubs are a different story...)
It's not a deck I'd rush to write home about, but it's classy and simple. Would be great for gambling demonstrations as well. I've stopped buying new decks, but if I hadn't, I'd probably get this deck if I was placing an order for other stuff.
I'm going to update the title of this topic, since it's clear this isn't a white deck, nor is it a Sultan deck...
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Just noticed the original teaser had a few reveals. The theme seems to be minimalistic and almost colourless.
Original image: http://hwst.ellusionist.com/republic-wallpaper.jpg
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Sultan's are still available from Amazon, if anyone is interested
http://www.amazon.com/Sultan-Republic-Playing-Cards-Ellusionist/dp/B009WWOCWE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376248566&sr=8-1&keywords=sultan+deck
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Interesting branding and back design. It reminds me of branding the fashion industry uses w/ female model. The back is Louis Vuitton looking, while the box and branding reminds me of Chanel No. 5. It's an attractive package (box and back). I will reserve judgment until I get a clear look at the faces. As I recall, the original Sultan Republic used the half pinstripe pips which I was not fond of.
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Excellent observations guys. Very keen eyes.
I agree with the similarities between the Bees and the Madison's. The design on the card backs is very clean as is the case with its Madison/Chanel styling.
Although I like the look, with such a proliferation of decks these days, I don't feel very inspired by this deck at this time.
Looking forward to the release of the Federal 52's and Deco.
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I actually love the font and small indexes. The pips are very clean and sleek with gorgeous details! Still not exactly sure on the layout.. but definitely worth keeping an eye on.
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So, I'm not seeing anything in common with the Sultan Republic deck here. Except for the word Republic.
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So, I'm not seeing anything in common with the Sultan Republic deck here. Except for the word Republic.
Is that really a bad thing? The new design is looking great so far.
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This deck is not part of of the sultan series, its a part of the republic. thats why there is the sultan republic and sultan treasury. Sultan is one thing, republic is another.sultan republic was a mix of the 2.
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This deck is not part of of the sultan series, its a part of the republic. thats why there is the sultan republic and sultan treasury. Sultan is one thing, republic is another.sultan republic was a mix of the 2.
Where'd you get this info from?
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This deck is not part of of the sultan series, its a part of the republic. thats why there is the sultan republic and sultan treasury. Sultan is one thing, republic is another.sultan republic was a mix of the 2.
Where'd you get this info from?
This sounds very similar to my speculation on facebook, so taking a shot in the dark i assume me :)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151534747456161&set=a.147152631160.119734.61472466160&type=1&comment_id=9214479&offset=0&total_comments=51
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There was a discussion on there page. E never said anything either way but this design has nothing to do with the sultans, it does have the republic symbol though.
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So, I'm not seeing anything in common with the Sultan Republic deck here. Except for the word Republic.
Is that really a bad thing? The new design is looking great so far.
This^ I honestly dont get why people are so quick to judge, bashing on something simply because it was not what they envisioned. Just because it doesnt look like a brother of the Sultan Republic doesnt mean it is bad. Just because E released the similar Madison Dealers deck recently doesnt make this deck a 'copy'. (Personally i prefer this other the Dealers).
By the way, the third -though unexciting- teaser trailer is up: http://www.ellusionist.com/republic-02-playing-cards.html?utm_content=awesm-publisher&utm_medium=elusn.st-facebook-post&utm_campaign=republic2&utm_source=direct-elusn.st
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This deck is not part of of the sultan series, its a part of the republic. thats why there is the sultan republic and sultan treasury. Sultan is one thing, republic is another.sultan republic was a mix of the 2.
Where'd you get this info from?
This sounds very similar to my speculation on facebook, so taking a shot in the dark i assume me :)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151534747456161&set=a.147152631160.119734.61472466160&type=1&comment_id=9214479&offset=0&total_comments=51
There was a discussion on there page. E never said anything either way but this design has nothing to do with the sultans, it does have the republic symbol though.
So, in other words, John B., you were quoting speculation from John (minus B) as opposed to an official statement from E, right? No offense to my fellow moderator, but that makes it about as valuable as the paper it isn't printed on...
And John (minus B) - the official titles of the decks were:
Sultan Republic
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Sultan Republic Treasury Edition.
SRTE was occasionally shortened to Sultan Treasury simply because it was faster and easier to say and write. But the tuck box says "Sultan Republic" on it exactly like the original (but in the new color scheme), along with "Treasury". I can't recall if it said "Edition" anywhere.
So, I'm not seeing anything in common with the Sultan Republic deck here. Except for the word Republic.
Is that really a bad thing? The new design is looking great so far.
This^ I honestly dont get why people are so quick to judge, bashing on something simply because it was not what they envisioned. Just because it doesnt look like a brother of the Sultan Republic doesnt mean it is bad. Just because E released the similar Madison Dealers deck recently doesnt make this deck a 'copy'. (Personally i prefer this other the Dealers).
I swear to you, if they released an exact copy of the Sultan Republic deck in a new color scheme, they'd be pissed about that, too. There is a tendency to be quick to judge around here. I'll grant that some things are obviously horrible from the first glance, but people - this is NOT one of them. So they're different - so what? I honestly think E took a bit of a hit with the SR and SRTE decks. SRTE looked better, but both decks had those awful split-chevron pip designs that were "wacky" for no good reason and did nothing to help the design. They probably announced they wouldn't reprint just so they could get them out the door and not have to look at them again - even if they're not the most attractive decks, if they're rare, speculators will swoop in and buy by the bricks rather than just decks.
I read people arguing on the FB page about how this is their second borderless deck "in a row" - technically not true, since their most recent deck is the red Rounders deck. But putting that aside, even if it was the second borderless deck in a row, it's the first one that didn't have hidden markings on the backs! Many players (yes, non-magicians do like and buy their decks to actually PLAY with them) won't get within ten feet of a marked deck because they don't want even a shadow of a doubt about how legit they play. For them, Madison Dealers was a non-event. This, however is different.
Not to mention beautiful thus far! I really love the small indices - older poker players hate them because they're too small, but those who can still see love small indices because they're easier to hide in a peek of your pocket cards in games like Texas Hold 'Em. The negative space and the elegant looking pips and their arrangements to me are quite gorgeous. Think of this deck like a more artful version of Bee Diamond Backs, because in essence that's the function they'll serve.
And I don't care what some of those people said about inverted cards - because of the edge being patterned on the back rather than a solid color, inverted cards will still hide very nicely. Anyone who's performed with a pack of Bees and done those tricks will agree.
BTW: am I the only person who noticed the release date is WED 14 AUG?
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Subtle and Elegant.
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Dramas aside, I'm absolutely LOVING the pip layout and the small indices.
Fingers crossed for awesome court cards.
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"Hey guys, Mike from Ellusionist here. I'm glad to see a lot of you guys are enjoying the deck thus far. More teaser images will be posted, make sure to follow our instagram page for all the new photos.
Maybe I can clear up some of the confusion regarding this deck. Don't confuse this deck with the Sultan Republic or Treasury decks. Both of which are much different. Republic is the brand. Within that brand we had the Sultan decks. This isn't meant to be a "Sultan Republic" makeover. However, you will recognize a few details from the previous versions in here.
Republic 2.0 is simply #2 in the Republic series. Because Treasury was an exact replica (although it was beaten up) of the Sultan Republic deck, we didn't consider it to be a second version.
Look at this deck with an open mind, don't think of it as we we're trying to redo the Sultan deck and completely went off course.
-Mike"
From Mike, the designer of the deck. Posted over at UC
tl;dr Republic is a Brand, Sultan is the first deck in a brand, its number 2 because Sultan's Republic: Treasury Edition is simply a "beat up" version of Sultan Republic.
Is everyone happy yet?
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Ellusionist also has just confirmed via a comment on Facebook that these will be unlimited.
Edit: Final teaser has just been uploaded http://www.ellusionist.com/republic-02-playing-cards.html?utm_content=awesm-publisher&utm_medium=elusn.st-facebook-post&utm_campaign=republic2&utm_source=m.facebook.com
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Gotta love that joker reveal! It's so subtle, but it'll hit a spectator in the face when you use it.
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Gotta love that joker reveal! It's so subtle, but it'll hit a spectator in the face when you use it.
This deck design stands on its own. I understand the whole sultan, not sultan aspect of the brand but why would they want to tie it in with the republic? That mountain/spear design was the whole premise behind the sultan republic and sultan treasury decks. The joker to me is sultan. They could have gone an entirely different branding direction with such an attractive back design.
Still waiting for the courts cards... from what I can see, the courts look like standard recoloring.
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Slightly disappointed with the court cards. Was hoping for simplified version like the original smoke and mirrors. But hey at least these are somewhat custom and by no stetch ugly.
Official release tomorrow. Black club members have access to the full commercial and the ability to order right now.
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Buy 12 and you'll get for free a Treasury deck. "Until Midnight on Saturday, get a FREE Limited Edition Treasury Deck with every 12 Republic #2 Decks Purchased"
I've got two Mechanic and two signed decks (also, two unsigned...one package just arrived yesterday and it was 48$ shipping only), so I'll pass this opportunity...shipping is too huge for Europe :(
I think the release of Mechanic (1 July) it's too close for Republic. After 6 weeks another release from E, it's to hard for some of us to recover.
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Slightly disappointed with the court cards. Was hoping for simplified version like the original smoke and mirrors. But hey at least these are somewhat custom and by no stetch ugly.
Official release tomorrow. Black club members have access to the full commercial and the ability to order right now.
I'm a bit disappointed, too. Standard, fine, but why not as simplified as the rest of the deck? All that empty space...the pips look lost!
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Gotta love that joker reveal! It's so subtle, but it'll hit a spectator in the face when you use it.
Except now you can't use the jokers as duplicates or for sandwich routines. Which is more valuable than a silly little, "now your card is on this card" reveal. At least to me it is.
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Gotta love that joker reveal! It's so subtle, but it'll hit a spectator in the face when you use it.
Except now you can't use the jokers as duplicates or for sandwich routines. Which is more valuable than a silly little, "now your card is on this card" reveal. At least to me it is.
There's no reason you couldn't. Most spectators simply don't look that closely. Even if they do spot it, crack a joke about that one having a personality complex... :))
I do a routine that has me surreptitiously swapping one joker for anther in a pack of Streamlines. They're mostly identical, but one of the jokers has a star-in-circle above the index, the other doesn't. I have done that trick literally hundreds of times and never once got caught.
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Gotta love that joker reveal! It's so subtle, but it'll hit a spectator in the face when you use it.
Except now you can't use the jokers as duplicates or for sandwich routines. Which is more valuable than a silly little, "now your card is on this card" reveal. At least to me it is.
That's interesting. I always wanted to know what magicians found more value in? A reveal joker or 2 identical jokers? So many companies have used joker reveals on their decks, and yet I know some love 2 identical jokers instead of the guarantee joker. What do most magicians prefer?
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Gotta love that joker reveal! It's so subtle, but it'll hit a spectator in the face when you use it.
Except now you can't use the jokers as duplicates or for sandwich routines. Which is more valuable than a silly little, "now your card is on this card" reveal. At least to me it is.
That's interesting. I always wanted to know what magicians found more value in? A reveal joker or 2 identical jokers? So many companies have used joker reveals on their decks, and yet I know some love 2 identical jokers instead of the guarantee joker. What do most magicians prefer?
As long as the jokers are close enough, they don't need to be identical. For example, the Arcane joker's reveal is so subtle, practically no one will spot it, especially if they're not familiar with joker reveals. Like I said, I swap jokers with the same art but different indices, never got caught once in well over a hundred repetitions. They're far less identical looking than the Republic No. 02 deck - there's no reason why this pair of jokers wouldn't be just fine in such routines.
Actually, while I've never been caught with nonidentical jokers, I have been "caught" in that I'm using jokers at all - everyone expects a deck to have two jokers these days, at least in the US, since it's the standard here. My ideal would be to use two identical cards - any random card from the deck works fine.
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It's pretty similar with the 3spades reveal on some of the bicycle gaff decks. People don't spot it unless they stare at box and inspect it, but if you pull out the box like any other, they don't catch it.
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I am almost positive that the people that I perform for would notice it. Don, I'm not sure if you are a professional or not, but I'm a hobbyist. I perform for friends at school and my family for the most part. They are use to seeing different style decks and are more familiar with custom decks than just anyone off the street because of that.
And most sandwich routines are structured in a way that the jokers are side by side at one point, making it basically OBVIOUS that the index is different. You don't even have to look for it, your brain just picks up on the fact that the two aren't the same.
Now, to be clear, joker reveals can be fine. I think they can be fun, creative and for the right audience (and when performed correctly) magical. But there is absolutely no way that a revelation printed on a card is in any way more useful than having a duplicate. I wouldn't even keep that card in the deck when performing other tricks. Don, what if I did a riffle peek and it stopped on that card? That wouldn't make any sense and some spectators may actually think their card is the two of hearts! And your explanation for why that card has another card's name on it (although clever) will just slow down the show and perhaps even confuse the spectators.
And the payoff for having it is what exactly? One trick? One pretty weak trick if you ask me. It's one reveal. There's hundreds of others out there. And you sacrifice dozens of other tricks by having the reveal and not having identical jokers.
Things change when the joker is particularly busy and/or the reveal is more subtle, but 1) that's not the case here because this one is blatant and 2) a reveal so tiny that it's not noticeable is weaker than a larger one.
I hope I have stated my opinions clearly.
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From Ellusionist
Republic #2 is the second release in the Republic brand, following the original 'Sultan' Republic and it's special edition, the Sultan Republic: Treasury.
D'oh didn't see this whole second page of discussion. I like it, but since it's unlimited I can wait
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I am almost positive that the people that I perform for would notice it. Don, I'm not sure if you are a professional or not, but I'm a hobbyist. I perform for friends at school and my family for the most part. They are use to seeing different style decks and are more familiar with custom decks than just anyone off the street because of that.
And most sandwich routines are structured in a way that the jokers are side by side at one point, making it basically OBVIOUS that the index is different. You don't even have to look for it, your brain just picks up on the fact that the two aren't the same.
Now, to be clear, joker reveals can be fine. I think they can be fun, creative and for the right audience (and when performed correctly) magical. But there is absolutely no way that a revelation printed on a card is in any way more useful than having a duplicate. I wouldn't even keep that card in the deck when performing other tricks. Don, what if I did a riffle peek and it stopped on that card? That wouldn't make any sense and some spectators may actually think their card is the two of hearts! And your explanation for why that card has another card's name on it (although clever) will just slow down the show and perhaps even confuse the spectators.
And the payoff for having it is what exactly? One trick? One pretty weak trick if you ask me. It's one reveal. There's hundreds of others out there. And you sacrifice dozens of other tricks by having the reveal and not having identical jokers.
Things change when the joker is particularly busy and/or the reveal is more subtle, but 1) that's not the case here because this one is blatant and 2) a reveal so tiny that it's not noticeable is weaker than a larger one.
I hope I have stated my opinions clearly.
I always use custom decks for my friends. They would assume its a joker and not pay attention. The mind observes everything but blocks what it does not deem important. If your like hey look at this new deck they might notice it. If your like hey let me show you a trick, I doubt they would
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Adding the borderless feel to the Republics just feels like something Daniel Madison would do, I want to see something different. Honestly, the deck doesn't look too bad. But that trailer is probably the most ridiculously dramatic playing card trailer I've ever seen.
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I fell mixed about this deck.
I have mostly stopped buying new decks just because I have finally realized it is alot more beneficial to put money into my show than countless decks.
But I really like the back design on these,The deck reminds me of the dealers almost too much, even the box is pretty similar.
Personally I like to have 2 identical jokers for transpositions and sandwich effects, and I agree with 10ofclubs that having the reveal can make it harder to perform other better effects.
They are nice cards, but I can do without them.
Also does anyone know if the girl in the video comes with the cards or is that just promo stuff?
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I really like this deck, fab boarderless design - are we starting to see a shift towards boarderless deck design??
Looking at the face of the cards is anyone else getting the MISC Goods' esque vibe??
Really a great, clean deck and i will certainly look to buy a few of these bad boys and even make a staple performing deck.
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I am almost positive that the people that I perform for would notice it. Don, I'm not sure if you are a professional or not, but I'm a hobbyist. I perform for friends at school and my family for the most part. They are use to seeing different style decks and are more familiar with custom decks than just anyone off the street because of that.
And most sandwich routines are structured in a way that the jokers are side by side at one point, making it basically OBVIOUS that the index is different. You don't even have to look for it, your brain just picks up on the fact that the two aren't the same.
Now, to be clear, joker reveals can be fine. I think they can be fun, creative and for the right audience (and when performed correctly) magical. But there is absolutely no way that a revelation printed on a card is in any way more useful than having a duplicate. I wouldn't even keep that card in the deck when performing other tricks. Don, what if I did a riffle peek and it stopped on that card? That wouldn't make any sense and some spectators may actually think their card is the two of hearts! And your explanation for why that card has another card's name on it (although clever) will just slow down the show and perhaps even confuse the spectators.
And the payoff for having it is what exactly? One trick? One pretty weak trick if you ask me. It's one reveal. There's hundreds of others out there. And you sacrifice dozens of other tricks by having the reveal and not having identical jokers.
Things change when the joker is particularly busy and/or the reveal is more subtle, but 1) that's not the case here because this one is blatant and 2) a reveal so tiny that it's not noticeable is weaker than a larger one.
I hope I have stated my opinions clearly.
Different strokes. I'd guess that only one index has the reveal, though, making it easier to use the card as a plain joker.
I fell mixed about this deck.
I have mostly stopped buying new decks just because I have finally realized it is alot more beneficial to put money into my show than countless decks.
But I really like the back design on these,The deck reminds me of the dealers almost too much, even the box is pretty similar.
Personally I like to have 2 identical jokers for transpositions and sandwich effects, and I agree with 10ofclubs that having the reveal can make it harder to perform other better effects.
They are nice cards, but I can do without them.
Also does anyone know if the girl in the video comes with the cards or is that just promo stuff?
Well, when you fell, I hope you didn't break anything. It was a mixed felling, after all... :))
Yes, the revelation about decks is a shocker to magician collectors. Especially when many of us get so delicate about our rare decks we never want to take them out. I've ruined more decks performing at bars than I care to count... Better to spend on the magic - but even there it's possible to get out of hand if you aren't careful - I have a career's worth of magic that I'm still working my way through after all the spending I did for holiday season 2011! I've totally stopped buying new decks, personally.
The girl in the video was only included is a special gift set given out to prominent message board administrators. Mine's in the mail, should arrive tomorrow. I hope it fits - it's a big PO Box, but it's still a PO Box... :))
I really like this deck, fab boarderless design - are we starting to see a shift towards boarderless deck design??
Looking at the face of the cards is anyone else getting the MISC Goods' esque vibe??
Really a great, clean deck and i will certainly look to buy a few of these bad boys and even make a staple performing deck.
I like designs without boarders, too - especially when they're always late with the rent.
As far as a "shift" - go easy, bro. E has made only about three decks without BORDERS. (Yeah, that's how you spell it... :)) )
I did get the Misc. Goods vibe, but since they're still more like standard than custom courts, only to a small degree.
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I was maybe too quick to jump on the shift happening, but with the Madison decks flying off the virtual shelves and now this design certain to follow suit, i think we will see a few more designs without the BORDERS ;)
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I haven't been a card collector long so I can't comment or relate to how these cards may or may not play a part of a larger series. My comments are made only from a design stand point. As I fully appreciate a simplistic design, but if you are going to try and create an almost minimal design you have to push that design farther than what looks like stock patterns you can find in illustrator's pattern library. There is so little here to comment on the few things I can comment on like font set, I would say use something besides Arial. Minimalistic designs are some of the absolute hardest designs to pull off. In my opinion they didn't pull it off, all I see is a company trying to pump out another deck with spending the least amount of time and money in it's design. I call these decks "weekend decks"
"Hey its Friday lets design a new deck by monday!"
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I haven't been a card collector long so I can't comment or relate to how these cards may or may not play a part of a larger series. My comments are made only from a design stand point. As I fully appreciate a simplistic design, but if you are going to try and create an almost minimal design you have to push that design farther than what looks like stock patterns you can find in illustrator's pattern library. There is so little here to comment on the few things I can comment on like font set, I would say use something besides Arial. Minimalistic designs are some of the absolute hardest designs to pull off. In my opinion they didn't pull it off, all I see is a company trying to pump out another deck with spending the least amount of time and money in it's design. I call these decks "weekend decks"
"Hey its Friday lets design a new deck by monday!"
Jackson, I agree with you. I respect your opinion and skill as a designer. I just find it a little ironic that your calling this a weekend deck after pumping out TEN decks of your own faster then any newcomer in playing cards history. lmao
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I haven't been a card collector long so I can't comment or relate to how these cards may or may not play a part of a larger series. My comments are made only from a design stand point. As I fully appreciate a simplistic design, but if you are going to try and create an almost minimal design you have to push that design farther than what looks like stock patterns you can find in illustrator's pattern library. There is so little here to comment on the few things I can comment on like font set, I would say use something besides Arial. Minimalistic designs are some of the absolute hardest designs to pull off. In my opinion they didn't pull it off, all I see is a company trying to pump out another deck with spending the least amount of time and money in it's design. I call these decks "weekend decks"
"Hey its Friday lets design a new deck by monday!"
Jackson, I agree with you. I respect your opinion and skill as a designer. I just find it a little ironic that your calling this a weekend deck after pumping out TEN decks of your own faster then any newcomer in playing cards history. lmao
touche, touche... :) Big difference between an 100 day deck (which is about what I spent on the Fed and 3 days) I can't wait until the promo video has a sweet voice over that says "we've" been working on this deck for over 12 months"
And as for the Fed goes is really only 4 decks just 10 different tuck boxes, and thats only because thats what my supporters wanted and asked for. I actually really like the idea of "Weekend Deck" maybe thats something that we could start is a weekend deck battle, it would really force those that would like to design decks to really rely on good design rather than a faddish theme.
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I haven't been a card collector long so I can't comment or relate to how these cards may or may not play a part of a larger series. My comments are made only from a design stand point. As I fully appreciate a simplistic design, but if you are going to try and create an almost minimal design you have to push that design farther than what looks like stock patterns you can find in illustrator's pattern library. There is so little here to comment on the few things I can comment on like font set, I would say use something besides Arial. Minimalistic designs are some of the absolute hardest designs to pull off. In my opinion they didn't pull it off, all I see is a company trying to pump out another deck with spending the least amount of time and money in it's design. I call these decks "weekend decks"
"Hey its Friday lets design a new deck by monday!"
Jackson, I agree with you. I respect your opinion and skill as a designer. I just find it a little ironic that your calling this a weekend deck after pumping out TEN decks of your own faster then any newcomer in playing cards history. lmao
touche, touche... :) Big difference between an 100 day deck (which is about what I spent on the Fed and 3 days) I can't wait until the promo video has a sweet voice over that says "we've" been working on this deck for over 12 months"
And as for the Fed goes is really only 4 decks just 10 different tuck boxes, and thats only because thats what my supporters wanted and asked for. I actually really like the idea of "Weekend Deck" maybe thats something that we could start is a weekend deck battle, it would really force those that would like to design decks to really rely on good design rather than a faddish theme.
"Weekend Deck Battles" So your saying by way of public shame and embarrassment, we can help designers reconsider a design OR at the very least get them to take more time designing it. Don't we already do something like that here? Lol
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I haven't been a card collector long so I can't comment or relate to how these cards may or may not play a part of a larger series. My comments are made only from a design stand point. As I fully appreciate a simplistic design, but if you are going to try and create an almost minimal design you have to push that design farther than what looks like stock patterns you can find in illustrator's pattern library. There is so little here to comment on the few things I can comment on like font set, I would say use something besides Arial. Minimalistic designs are some of the absolute hardest designs to pull off. In my opinion they didn't pull it off, all I see is a company trying to pump out another deck with spending the least amount of time and money in it's design. I call these decks "weekend decks"
"Hey its Friday lets design a new deck by monday!"
Jackson, I agree with you. I respect your opinion and skill as a designer. I just find it a little ironic that your calling this a weekend deck after pumping out TEN decks of your own faster then any newcomer in playing cards history. lmao
touche, touche... :) Big difference between an 100 day deck (which is about what I spent on the Fed and 3 days) I can't wait until the promo video has a sweet voice over that says "we've" been working on this deck for over 12 months"
And as for the Fed goes is really only 4 decks just 10 different tuck boxes, and thats only because thats what my supporters wanted and asked for. I actually really like the idea of "Weekend Deck" maybe thats something that we could start is a weekend deck battle, it would really force those that would like to design decks to really rely on good design rather than a faddish theme.
"Weekend Deck Battles" So your saying by way of public shame and embarrassment, we can help designers reconsider a design OR at the very least get them to take more time designing it. Don't we already do something like that here? Lol
Actually, the concept of a "weekend deck design" contest is really a pretty good one. Finding willing designers to participate would be the challenge. If you can find a designer (or a few) willing to give it a shot for fun, go for it. We even have an entire board already dedicated to deck battles! Perhaps we can even do some kind of charity thing - people can pay to buy copies of the winning deck (or perhaps just a poster print of what the uncut would look like), made with a short-run printer, and profits would go to the charity of the winning designer's choice. If you find the designers, I'll be willing to help hammer out the rules and other details of the contest and sort out some solution for making the winning deck.
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Received my decks and opened one up. Because of where the cards were cut across the borders, they turned out to be subtle one-way backs.
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Received my decks and opened one up. Because of where the cards were cut across the borders, they turned out to be subtle one-way backs.
If it's really bad, contact E about exchanging it for a new one. Every deck run is bound to have a few clunkers. Either that or own the one-way back and use it to your advantage.