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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: CBJ on December 09, 2013, 01:59:19 PM
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WEll.... yet another re-coloring from Ellusionist.
This flyer was shipped out with orders recently.
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CBJ
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Well if they aren't too expensive then they could cover the initial cost of the membership.
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I think this just sold me on joining the black club... I love them.
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Is this a reward when you join or only when you renew a membership?
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I suppose it was a matter of time .. I've envisioned this deck for a while .. Artifice is my favourite deck so I won't say no
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Bought a black club membership this past Black Friday (it was discounted 37 dollars), I wonder if I'll have the opportunity to purchase them as well. I think several people are also in my position.
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They probably will be... You just won't get the free one (You can just purchase up to 6)...
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Interesting, I have a black club membership and my membership was going to lapse a few days ago. I checked the date my membership is active to and it shows Dec 24th, can anyone else confirm this if you purchased early on when the membership was rolled out Nov/Dec 2012? I also looked at where to renew and you are not able to add the BC membership to the cart.
Expect a renewal email marketing campaign in the near future as stated above (BTW I got the same flyer as pictured above).
Oh this is what else was in the package with the flyer :D
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Interesting, I have a black club membership and my membership was going to lapse a few days ago. I checked the date my membership is active to and it shows Dec 24th, can anyone else confirm this if you purchased early on when the membership was rolled out Nov/Dec 2012?
I believe I read somewhere that they were going to extend the BC memberships of people like you through the holidays. I read this during the Cyber Monday spree because people were having a tough time trying to extend their membership. I suppose it was just easier for them to give you an extra month and enjoy the holiday season instead of figuring out who specifically is trying to extend during that crisis.
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Actually they confirmed in a tweet that they were extending memberships one month because they were waiting for something, obviously this was it.
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Royal Aritifice? Gold on purple? or is that just grey...
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Well, I must admit that it's not very unexpected and that I want one. I'm weary about how they use it as a marketing ploy for renewals and then sell them later. Maybe they wont though!
They are sexy ;D
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I don't know when they are coming out and i don't know anymore information about them .
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Received an email :
Thanks for being a part of BLACK CLUB. We're writing to update you on Renewal.
We know you've seen how valuable it is to be a member in this elite club. Many are writing to ask how to renew. If you'll notice, we've extended your membership at no cost, and will continue to do so until your renewal gift is "ready".
And what a gorgeous gift it is! The final Artifice in the Series, and available ONLY to Black Club.
If you've ordered recently you've seen a few pics on the shipping insert included in your package. Gold Artifice. Wrapped in glittering foil on the softest, most expensive black luxe paper. Like the rare Gold Arcane, but far more distinctive.
This single deck will put the crowning achievement on the critically acclaimed Artifice line. There will be no more Artifice produced after this one. We'll still have all the decks available, just no more colors.
Let us explain how the "gift" aspect of Black Club works...
As part of year one everyone gets the superb "welcome to Black Club" kit. Then, during the year, you experience what Black Club is all about. Very quickly, the $147 pricetag fades in your rearview mirror. You realize that the cost of Black Club gets paid for quickly as you enjoy rare items that NO ONE else can own. These are given to you either at great savings or no cost at all. We'll remind you of a few of this past year's benefits in a moment.
When you renew, we want to give you a gift for joining us for another year. This year's gift is the Gold Artifice Rare Deck. THREE of them. We figured you need one to put on the shelf to hold as an investment (believe us, it will be worth a lot some day), you need one to take out and use for special performances, and you need one deck to do anything you want with (some may sell the deck on eBay and let the profits pay for their entire year in Black Club.... we don't necessarily recommend it but the option is there).
The deck was expected to be ready in mid December. It's not. There were a few additions we wanted to give to the deck and we are doing that. If it's worth it, it's worth waiting for. The limited number of Gold Artifice decks should be delivered to the Ellusionist warehouse by the third week in Jan. At that time the first renewal will be available for purchase.
We are extending your membership UNTIL your renewal is available.
You will be getting free months of benefits, whatever it takes. It's just another benefit of being in the Black Club.... we take care of our own and always will.
So that's it. We're late on the deck. We want you to wait for it. '14 is going to be incredible. You're going to get even MORE than you got last year.
Actually, it's been interesting looking back at what you did get.
The most talk we hear is about 24 hours pre-notice on releases. This feature lets you get in and get out FIRST. On a popular product you've seen our servers get annihilated for hours as magicians struggle to checkout. Black Club has already "been there" and "done that" before the first server starts coughing up a furball. And on rare items where there are only 50 available, BC snaps them up before ANYONE.
Then there's the standard stuff... the 5% off, the three free downloads, free DVD downloads, the 250 extra loyalty points, the opportunity to buy from the Black Club store (so much cool stuff, and MORE coming). All that will come to you again during the second year as well.
Then! The specialty items you got. The Black Rounders sent to your door to surprise you before anyone else even knew they existed, with a SIGNED NOTE from Madison.
The Gold Arcane sheet at NO COST.
Free download effects through the year that no one else got, from Madison, Peter McKinnon and Justin Miller, all at NO COST.
You picked up a free Red Arcane deck before anyone even knew they existed, at NO COST.
You got various special deals, a few of which are....
• 24 Hours Double Your Discount
• 25% Off Smiley by Laurent Mikelfield
• 25% Off Artifact Coins
• $50 Off Colossal Luxury Close Up Pad
• $50 Off Pure Smoke
• $50 Off Gold Arcane Sheets
• 33% Off the Black Club Ring
We plan to beef up the store in 2014, with more rare, sweet products only for you guys.
Black Club truly IS special.
We hope you enjoyed what you received over the last year, and know it's only going to get better. We'll let you know when you can renew.
Best wishes for an incredible New Year, be sure to stay safe.
Team Ellusionist.
End email
This should have the information you are looking for.
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FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MISSED THIS KEY PART OF THE MESSAGE..
And what a gorgeous gift it is! The final Artifice in the Series, and available ONLY to Black Club.
So, when can we expect the purple Arcane deck? :))
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FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MISSED THIS KEY PART OF THE MESSAGE..
And what a gorgeous gift it is! The final Artifice in the Series, and available ONLY to Black Club.
So, when can we expect the purple Arcane deck? :))
No doubt!
The Artifice looks nice though, embossed with real gold! Haha j/k. I think the box is a step up.
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Based on what's been written in the e-mail, I'm assuming that the tuck box is going to be made from the same paper as T11's red Monarchs and Medallions -- after all, their tuck boxes are also made from the "softest" paper.
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Based on what's been written in the e-mail, I'm assuming that the tuck box is going to be made from the same paper as T11's red Monarchs and Medallions -- after all, their tuck boxes are also made from the "softest" paper.
They're made of Charmin Extra Soft? Wow... :))
The things they do in Marketing...
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Jeez, these sound awesome.
Times that I wish I was in black club. :(
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Jeez, these sound awesome.
Times that I wish I was in black club. :(
What stops you from joining? As you can see over the past year, it was worth it in the end.
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Based on what's been written in the e-mail, I'm assuming that the tuck box is going to be made from the same paper as T11's red Monarchs and Medallions -- after all, their tuck boxes are also made from the "softest" paper.
They're made of Charmin Extra Soft? Wow... :))
The things they do in Marketing...
It was either going to be Charmin or Kleenex (Andrex over here in the UK)...
On a serious note though, I think the photo of the tuckbox looks pretty cool. I wasn't particularly impressed with the white or black Artifice decks, because they were nothing more than dull looking versions of the previous Artifice decks.
This one at least looks like some extra work has been done on it (albeit only on the box).
I'll definitely be renewing my Black Club membership, because Ellusionist really do go that extra length for black club members.
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We have charmin and Kleenex in th uk lol don't forget plenty ( formerly bounty ) lol
Anyway, I thought someone stated something about their being limited to 6 decks each?
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We have charmin and Kleenex in th uk lol don't forget plenty ( formerly bounty ) lol
Anyway, I thought someone stated something about their being limited to 6 decks each?
Maybe there's an option of buying three more at $18 a pop each?
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We have charmin and Kleenex in th uk lol don't forget plenty ( formerly bounty ) lol
Anyway, I thought someone stated something about their being limited to 6 decks each?
Who said that?
BTW: the US still has Bounty.
Maybe there's an option of buying three more at $18 a pop each?
Right now, there isn't an option to buy jacksquat. Patience, young grasshoppers... All of this is RUMOR, other than the facts that a) the deck exists, b) only Black Club members will have access and c) it's the LAST Artifice design E is making.
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We have charmin and Kleenex in th uk lol don't forget plenty ( formerly bounty ) lol
Anyway, I thought someone stated something about their being limited to 6 decks each?
Who said that?
BTW: the US still has Bounty.
It's stated on the flyer also, here's a link for it. http://aethercards.com/discourse/playing-card-plethora/gold-artifice-black-club-renewal/ Maybe a merge?
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We have charmin and Kleenex in th uk lol don't forget plenty ( formerly bounty ) lol
Anyway, I thought someone stated something about their being limited to 6 decks each?
Who said that?
BTW: the US still has Bounty.
It's stated on the flyer also, here's a link for it. http://aethercards.com/discourse/playing-card-plethora/gold-artifice-black-club-renewal/ Maybe a merge?
Interesting because the email I received above stated they will be giving you 3 when you renew and the flyer states you get one ( I have gotten that flyer just been awhile since I looked at it). Obvious this "reward" is fluid as I looks like you will probably be getting 3 with your renewal as the email was just sent out. I am curious to know if you will in fact be able to buy an additional 6 for a total of 9 decks, and the reason I bring that up is because the renewal amount if obviously different which seems like they are trying to nail down the "reward".
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If Ellusionist really want the deck to come across as being 'ultra rare' and valuable, then they probably won't want to allow very many (such as 9 decks -- 3 for renewing BC membership, and the option to buy 6 extra) to go out... because the majority of the additional purchased decks will probably end up on eBay!
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If Ellusionist really want the deck to come across as being 'ultra rare' and valuable, then they probably won't want to allow very many (such as 9 decks -- 3 for renewing BC membership, and the option to buy 6 extra) to go out... because the majority of the additional purchased decks will probably end up on eBay!
E probably looks at it solely as a give away and limited deck for promotion of the Black Club. I doubt they care if the decks are on eBay, they even mentioned eBay in the letter they sent out. That being said to get the decks you have to pay the renewal price and then for the additional deck above and beyond the 3 you will need to pay the premium deck price. Look like a good money making play for E. eBay is an afterthought IMO.
BTW all limited deck releases (not sure if this is a limited release) are usually 5k runs as stated by Brad from E. Potentially limited supply, with limited release.
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I actually think that looks beautiful. Awesome tuck.
Although, it kind of annoys me that Ellusionist is making their best decks available only to Black Club members. Some of us just simply can't afford to drop 200 bucks on a membership. Then again, I guess it's fantastic for members. I'm glad that Ellusionist caters to their membership holders, unlike some other companies. *cough*D&D*cough*
If any Black Club member picks up multiples, I'd gladly drop some cash for one.
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It's stated on the flyer also, here's a link for it. http://aethercards.com/discourse/playing-card-plethora/gold-artifice-black-club-renewal/ Maybe a merge?
Merged. There does appear to be contradictory information, but I'd consider the email to be the more reliable of the two. It stated renewals would get three (right?) but I don't recall it saying anything about purchasing extras.
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Right now, there isn't an option to buy jacksquat. Patience, young grasshoppers... All of this is RUMOR, other than the facts that a) the deck exists, b) only Black Club members will have access and
c) it's the LAST Artifice design E is making.
Bah, I've heard that one before. Not that I don't expect them to keep such a promise, but I won't be surprised if they don't.
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Right now, there isn't an option to buy jacksquat. Patience, young grasshoppers... All of this is RUMOR, other than the facts that a) the deck exists, b) only Black Club members will have access and
c) it's the LAST Artifice design E is making.
Bah, I've heard that one before. Not that I don't expect them to keep such a promise, but I won't be surprised if they don't.
When did you hear it? I don't recall it, but then again, I'm forgetf...what were we talking about? :))
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Right now, there isn't an option to buy jacksquat. Patience, young grasshoppers... All of this is RUMOR, other than the facts that a) the deck exists, b) only Black Club members will have access and
c) it's the LAST Artifice design E is making.
Bah, I've heard that one before. Not that I don't expect them to keep such a promise, but I won't be surprised if they don't.
When did you hear it? I don't recall it, but then again, I'm forgetf...what were we talking about? :))
Not from E I think, at least not this particular statement. Off the top of my head D$D said this after S&M V6.
When you get to a certain point you treat all major card producers in the same cynical way. None of them are perfect, that's for damn sure ::)
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There should be a USPCC minimum print run of 2,500 (or more, depending on their order size) so no matter how exclusive the group that it's offered to, there should be a decent supply on eBay soon. They won't be cheap, at least initially, but it's a cheaper alternative than joining their club, if you don't want to for whatever reason.
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There should be a USPCC minimum print run of 2,500 (or more, depending on their order size) so no matter how exclusive the group that it's offered to, there should be a decent supply on eBay soon. They won't be cheap, at least initially, but it's a cheaper alternative than joining their club, if you don't want to for whatever reason.
I believe E usually prints 5000 of their "limited" decks, so you're probably right.
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I actually think that looks beautiful. Awesome tuck.
Although, it kind of annoys me that Ellusionist is making their best decks available only to Black Club members. Some of us just simply can't afford to drop 200 bucks on a membership. Then again, I guess it's fantastic for members. I'm glad that Ellusionist caters to their membership holders, unlike some other companies. *cough*D&D*cough*
If any Black Club member picks up multiples, I'd gladly drop some cash for one.
I was in the same boat as you. I thought it was a little bit pricey but on Cyber Monday it was only 110 dollars and they gave me the 5% Black Club discount on the already discounted products.
My question is, since I just joined last month, will the deck be available to me?
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Although, it kind of annoys me that Ellusionist is making their best decks available only to Black Club members.
I don't agree. The black club artifice decks are a nice extra for joining black club but not the best deck(s) by a long shot. I just joined black club during the Cyber Monday promotion. Before joining I was able to get every deck I wanted from E this year (All 6 Madison Decks).
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So my moment to renew is almost here and i still haven't received any kind of email from E talking about this new Gold Artifice...
I recently purchased some decks from them and i still didn't get the flyer talking about the gold artifice...
Am i hallucinating or what?
Thats one deck i do want to have and it seems that nobody knows nothing about it... (besides all the info here...)
Do we (members of the BC) have any option here? :o
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So my moment to renew is almost here and i still haven't received any kind of email from E talking about this new Gold Artifice...
I recently purchased some decks from them and i still didn't get the flyer talking about the gold artifice...
Am i hallucinating or what?
Thats one deck i do want to have and it seems that nobody knows nothing about it... (besides all the info here...)
Do we (members of the BC) have any option here? :o
It's pretty simple - until the Gold Artifice decks are ready, present Gold Club members whose memberships were due to expire are getting a free ride on membership - an extension, gratis, courtesy of Ellusionist. When it becomes available, we'll receive notice with the offer to renew and to get the deck, probably on similar terms to how we obtained the Black Club Artifice deck.
Relax. Enjoy the ride.
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So now it's the Gold Club? lol
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So now it's the Gold Club? lol
Ha. I was tired.
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Well Gold Club does sound more prestigious than Black Club, lol. Anyway it's pretty ridiculous that E have dropped the ball on this thing, I mean it's only been delayed for 3 months now and they keep extending memberships like every 3 days!
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Renewals are finally here! Seems new club members are out of luck when it comes to the Gold Artifice!
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Renewals are finally here! Seems new club members are out of luck when it comes to the Gold Artifice!
I have no problem with renewal members getting first crack. I will be very disappointed if new Black Club members are not given the same opportunity to pick these up at the $25 price point.
We did not pay for Black Club to be left out in the cold.
@Don
You might have been tired (gold club) but I think you were on to something. This feels like a club within the club.
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CBJ
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After seeing pictures of it, I'm going to pass. I really dislike that ugly club that's used for Black Club and the AoC. I thought this would be a normal black and gold artifice deck. Thank you for saving me some money.
If your someone who what's this deck and is a new Black Club member, I would not spend more then $35 for it. Wait till they lower it.
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Yeah that's somewhat disappointing.
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Renewals are finally here! Seems new club members are out of luck when it comes to the Gold Artifice!
What makes you say that? All Black Club members will get their crack at these - when they renew after their first year. Hey, I could complain that I don't get more Black Artifice just because I'm renewing - but that would be WHINING, Victor. It's a simple matter of seniority - that's what E chose, I see no reason to make such a stink about it.
BC renewals get three decks right off the back and the option to purchase up to four more at $25 a piece. Try telling me with a straight face that these won't end up on eBay for the people who were too impatient to wait for theirs or who never joined in the first place...
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Renewals are finally here! Seems new club members are out of luck when it comes to the Gold Artifice!
What makes you say that? All Black Club members will get their crack at these - when they renew after their first year. Hey, I could complain that I don't get more Black Artifice just because I'm renewing - but that would be WHINING, Victor. It's a simple matter of seniority - that's what E chose, I see no reason to make such a stink about it.
BC renewals get three decks right off the back and the option to purchase up to four more at $25 a piece. Try telling me with a straight face that these won't end up on eBay for the people who were too impatient to wait for theirs or who never joined in the first place...
I wasn't making a big stink about it and I am a renewing member so i'm getting them. It just seems newer members thought they would be and/or should be able to get them right now. I am 100% for Ellusionists decision to make it only for renewing members.
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Renewals are finally here! Seems new club members are out of luck when it comes to the Gold Artifice!
What makes you say that? All Black Club members will get their crack at these - when they renew after their first year. Hey, I could complain that I don't get more Black Artifice just because I'm renewing - but that would be WHINING, Victor. It's a simple matter of seniority - that's what E chose, I see no reason to make such a stink about it.
BC renewals get three decks right off the back and the option to purchase up to four more at $25 a piece. Try telling me with a straight face that these won't end up on eBay for the people who were too impatient to wait for theirs or who never joined in the first place...
Victor is not the only one complaining. Yes, Victor has earned his whining status but theres nothing wrong with being "disappointed".
Don makes a good point about eBay. The thing I don't understand is why $250 or $100 for that matter. Those that are able to buy these for $25 will under sell Ellusionist on eBay. Is this E trying bring value to the Club? They basically want you to sell them with this sales approach. I would think E would rather have people buy from them, not eBay for less?
Even if I was still interested (and I'm not). By the time our turn to renew comes around, this deck will be sold out, or a second printing. The way I see it, either your a member or your not.
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Are you sure new members cant buy them from the black club store? From the description it looks like any black club member can buy them for $25 but only renewing members get the 3 free. Try sticking one in the cart and see if it discounts.
Im a little confused as to the Value of the Black Club. From the outside it looks like for $150 a member gets 30 cents off per deck, a glowing wristband, an empty box, a member card to ... do whatever it is you do with that thing, and the privilege of buying "rare" items. Which include a ring and different colored artifice cards. Am I missing something?
Also.. The price on those decks seems a bit ridiculous. 25$ direct from the distributer seems silly.
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Are you sure new members cant buy them from the black club store? From the description it looks like any black club member can buy them for $25 but only renewing members get the 3 free. Try sticking one in the cart and see if it discounts.
Im a little confused as to the Value of the Black Club. From the outside it looks like for $150 a member gets 30 cents off per deck, a glowing wristband, an empty box, a member card to ... do whatever it is you do with that thing, and the privilege of buying "rare" items. Which include a ring and different colored artifice cards. Am I missing something?
Also.. The price on those decks seems a bit ridiculous. 25$ direct from the distributer seems silly.
SPECIAL NOTE
If the Gold Artifice Deck is added to your cart before renewal, the deck will show in cart full retail price. This is solely to deter customers who haven't yet renewed from purchasing the deck. If you have renewed and the correct price of $25 is not displayed in cart, please contact us.
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Victor is not the only one complaining. Yes, Victor has earned his whining status but theres nothing wrong with being "disappointed".
Don makes a good point about eBay. The thing I don't understand is why $250 or $100 for that matter. Those that are able to buy these for $25 will under sell Ellusionist on eBay. Is this E trying bring value to the Club? They basically want you to sell them with this sales approach. I would think E would rather have people buy from them, not eBay for less?
Even if I was still interested (and I'm not). By the time our turn to renew comes around, this deck will be sold out, or a second printing. The way I see it, either your a member or your not.
Well, that's an assumption. We don't know how many of these decks were printed, and E is not telling. My guess would be that they made perhaps twice as many of these as they did the Black Artifice, since members are getting access to roughly twice as many. You can't assume it will be a sellout or a second printing by the time you buy yours, based on the information provided. If anything, now that they've been at this thing for a year-plus, they probably have a pretty clear idea of the demand for memberships and quantities needed.
BTW: cute name change!
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BTW: cute name change!
It had to be done. Its not the Name that makes the Being, its the Being that makes the Name.
Did you happen to be in Brooklyn on Wednesday Night @ Ellusionist Studio?
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BTW: cute name change!
It had to be done. Its not the Name that makes the Being, its the Being that makes the Name.
Did you happen to be in Brooklyn on Wednesday Night @ Ellusionist Studio?
Yeah, it was pretty good fun! Found a few familiar faces there as well as "the talent"! Lots of socializing, followed by a brief video shoot. Hopefully I'll be back there sometime in the future.
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BTW: cute name change!
It had to be done. Its not the Name that makes the Being, its the Being that makes the Name.
Did you happen to be in Brooklyn on Wednesday Night @ Ellusionist Studio?
Yeah, it was pretty good fun! Found a few familiar faces there as well as "the talent"! Lots of socializing, followed by a brief video shoot. Hopefully I'll be back there sometime in the future.
Yeah... One day. I guess I'm party pooped. lol Magicians are a mixed bag. You never know who you will meet and I'm not a magician. If I knew earlier, I would have rented a limo and dragged a few out to the Island. Pick up JMROCK on the way. lol