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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: JacksonRobinson on March 07, 2014, 07:41:08 PM
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Hey guys just wanted to show you some new lucite cases I have been developing. They are hand made in the USA and are now available on my website. They are solid Lucite and are very well made. Sorry Don if this is not the right thread for this. Please move if it is.
http://kings-wild-project.myshopify.com/collections/playing-card-storage
(http://www.jacksonbrobinson.com/KS/lucite/LC1Deck1.jpg)
(http://www.jacksonbrobinson.com/KS/lucite/LC1Deck3.jpg)
(http://www.jacksonbrobinson.com/KS/lucite/LC2Deck1.jpg)
(http://www.jacksonbrobinson.com/KS/lucite/LC2Deck3.jpg)
(http://www.jacksonbrobinson.com/KS/lucite/LC3Deck1.jpg)
(http://www.jacksonbrobinson.com/KS/lucite/LC4Deck1.jpg)
(http://www.jacksonbrobinson.com/KS/lucite/LC5Deck1.jpg)
(http://www.jacksonbrobinson.com/KS/lucite/LC6Deck1.jpg)
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Wow. Those look great!
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Wow, can I have that last one back? Lol.
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Those look great Jackson, very sleek design!
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Hey guys just wanted to show you some new lucite cases I have been developing. They are hand made in the USA and are now available on my website. They are solid Lucite and are very well made. Sorry Don if this is not the right thread for this. Please move if it is.
Looks fine to me. It's a product that playing card collectors will drool over, so the Plethora is the right place!
CAUTION: use a waterproof keyboard or place your keyboard in a keyboard condom before viewing!
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These look great Jackson. This is exactly what the community was looking for (Retail Lucite Cases).
Nice job on the case size reduction. These are the real deal!
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Absolute perfection....and yes, I will be ordering.
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Wow! This looks very awesome. I can't wait to start displaying some of my favorite decks in these!
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So your making modern day playing cards and throw in a secret side project because of production issues when most people are working on just one deck. You just opened a fulfillment center. Your starting make your own tuck boxes and now your making deck accessories. Jackson let me know when you're planing on buying the USPCC. I would like to invest...
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Jackson,
Can you tell us the dimensions of the 6 deck case? I didn't see it on the website.
Thanks!
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These look FANTASTIC! I will definitely be ordering some!
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Jackson,
Can you tell us the dimensions of the 6 deck case? I didn't see it on the website.
Thanks!
Great Question
Here are the dem:
1 Deck 5" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
2 Deck 8" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
3 Deck 11" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
4 Deck 15" 11/16 x 6" 3/16
5 Deck 18" 11/16 x 6" 3/16
6 Deck 11" 11/16 x 11" 11/16
8 Deck 15" 11/16 x 11" 11/16
I forgot to include a pic of the 8 deck case.
(http://www.jacksonbrobinson.com/ks/lucite/82.jpg)
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I just had an interesting idea...
Take your case design. Use the thinnest possible plastic for the front and back. Make the corner bolt sink down to become flush with the surface. Place the deck spaces as close together as possible, perhaps a dozen per case.
Now, instead of being used for just display, they can also be used to compactly yet safely store your most delicate decks and the cases are stackable. With a little fiddling, you can even make them interlock to prevent tipping. Better still, create a rack where the cases can be stacked and held in place.
What do you think?
PS: why do all the measurements end in either 3/16 or 11/16 of an inch?
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PS: why do all the measurements end in either 3/16 or 11/16 of an inch?
The Lucite is cut to size, then Hours and I mean HOURS are put into each case, routing, sanding, sanding some more, then sanding some more, and then more sanding, then polishing- and if it is not just right back to the sanding and more polishing, to get the quality expected from Kings Wild.
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PS: why do all the measurements end in either 3/16 or 11/16 of an inch?
The Lucite is cut to size, then Hours and I mean HOURS are put into each case, routing, sanding, sanding some more, then sanding some more, and then more sanding, then polishing- and if it is not just right back to the sanding and more polishing, to get the quality expected from Kings Wild.
Hi, welcome to the Discourse. I'm Don - what's your name? Are you an employee of Kings Wild?
I don't wish to seem rude, but you didn't really answer the question. You explained how much care and effort is put into the creation of each case without really explaining why the cases have measurements that end in an odd number of sixteenths. It's not a common length or width. It's worth noting that each fraction is one-sixteenth short of either one-fourth or three-fourths.
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PS: why do all the measurements end in either 3/16 or 11/16 of an inch?
The Lucite is cut to size, then Hours and I mean HOURS are put into each case, routing, sanding, sanding some more, then sanding some more, and then more sanding, then polishing- and if it is not just right back to the sanding and more polishing, to get the quality expected from Kings Wild.
Yes, welcome. And yes who are you and how do know so much about my cases. :)
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Awkward...
@Ben S - So, you like sanding?
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I just had an interesting idea...
Take your case design. Use the thinnest possible plastic for the front and back. Make the corner bolt sink down to become flush with the surface. Place the deck spaces as close together as possible, perhaps a dozen per case.
Now, instead of being used for just display, they can also be used to compactly yet safely store your most delicate decks and the cases are stackable. With a little fiddling, you can even make them interlock to prevent tipping. Better still, create a rack where the cases can be stacked and held in place.
What do you think?
@ Don Boyer: The bolt's serve a purpose. They allow someone to display a deck laying down flat (coffee table), while protecting the case from surface to surface scratches. There are less expensive ways to protect expensive decks for storage then transparent Lucite. These are primarily going to be purchased for display.
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I just had an interesting idea...
Take your case design. Use the thinnest possible plastic for the front and back. Make the corner bolt sink down to become flush with the surface. Place the deck spaces as close together as possible, perhaps a dozen per case.
Now, instead of being used for just display, they can also be used to compactly yet safely store your most delicate decks and the cases are stackable. With a little fiddling, you can even make them interlock to prevent tipping. Better still, create a rack where the cases can be stacked and held in place.
What do you think?
@ Don Boyer: The bolt's serve a purpose. They allow someone to display a deck laying down flat (coffee table), while protecting the case from surface to surface scratches. There are less expensive ways to protect expensive decks for storage then transparent Lucite. These are primarily going to be purchased for display.
I understand that. But there are decks that people own, expensive decks, that would benefit from the kind of "bulletproof" protection something like this would provide, if it was optimized for storage - in present form, yes, it is optimized for display.
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My biggest problem is that I need a few of the largest model for my King's Wild decks, a few for my Ornate/Midnight Cards decks, a few for my Encarded decks, and then a few more for ones beyond that!
I SO need to win a Powerball jackpot!! :-)
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I could use quite a few of these. They are nice but way way way too expensive. The cases are worth more than the decks I want to put in them. Kind of doesn't seem right, does it?
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I could use quite a few of these. They are nice but way way way too expensive. The cases are worth more than the decks I want to put in them. Kind of doesn't seem right, does it?
Decks are paper and cardboard, the cases are Lucite, steel & and aluminum. Steel costs more than paper, also someone has to make them by hand your cards get printed by a machine. If I sold them for $7.95 then I would be selling them.
Food for thought: You might be putting the wrong decks in the cases then.
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I could use quite a few of these. They are nice but way way way too expensive. The cases are worth more than the decks I want to put in them. Kind of doesn't seem right, does it?
Decks are paper and cardboard, the cases are Lucite, steel & and aluminum. Steel costs more than paper, also someone has to make them by hand your cards get printed by a machine. If I sold them for $7.95 then I would be selling them.
Food for thought: You might be putting the wrong decks in the cases then.
Good to know the process and material it takes to make these. They are nice but to each his own. I'm sure many of us have $30, $40 or $50 decks that we love and cherish. But IMO I would never buy a single case that is worth more than the deck I want to put in it. I just got done remodeling my kitchen and wanted to buy a new fridge that looked modern and fit the design. That doesn't mean I'm gonna be Kanye West and go buy a Swarovski encrusted fridge because all I am going to be putting in it is milk, eggs, juice etc... And I don't think I would be wrong in putting those items that cost much less inside of it either. Again, this is just my opinion and I am throwing it out there. Nice looking cases though.
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I could use quite a few of these. They are nice but way way way too expensive. The cases are worth more than the decks I want to put in them. Kind of doesn't seem right, does it?
Decks are paper and cardboard, the cases are Lucite, steel & and aluminum. Steel costs more than paper, also someone has to make them by hand your cards get printed by a machine. If I sold them for $7.95 then I would be selling them.
Food for thought: You might be putting the wrong decks in the cases then.
Good to know the process and material it takes to make these. They are nice but to each his own. I'm sure many of us have $30, $40 or $50 decks that we love and cherish. But IMO I would never buy a single case that is worth more than the deck I want to put in it. I just got done remodeling my kitchen and wanted to buy a new fridge that looked modern and fit the design. That doesn't mean I'm gonna be Kanye West and go buy a Swarovski encrusted fridge because all I am going to be putting in it is milk, eggs, juice etc... And I don't think I would be wrong in putting those items that cost much less inside of it either. Again, this is just my opinion and I am throwing it out there. Nice looking cases though.
And some of us have $100, $200, $500 or more decks.
After I saw the T11 model, I was going to build one of these myself-------and then I priced a sheet a Lucite. WOW!
These aren't for everybody, but if you want some tough protection. this is it. Looks good to.
Good luck with the project Jackson.
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Plenty more cases and materials out there guys. Google is your friend.
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Here are the dem:
1 Deck 5" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
2 Deck 8" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
3 Deck 11" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
4 Deck 15" 11/16 x 6" 3/16
5 Deck 18" 11/16 x 6" 3/16
6 Deck 11" 11/16 x 11" 11/16
8 Deck 15" 11/16 x 11" 11/16
I'm just curious as to why there is no 10 deck lucite case? Isn't the Fed series a 10deck series? :P
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Here are the dem:
1 Deck 5" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
2 Deck 8" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
3 Deck 11" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
4 Deck 15" 11/16 x 6" 3/16
5 Deck 18" 11/16 x 6" 3/16
6 Deck 11" 11/16 x 11" 11/16
8 Deck 15" 11/16 x 11" 11/16
I'm just curious as to why there is no 10 deck lucite case? Isn't the Fed series a 10deck series? :P
I do have a ten deck case that holds the while fed series but it also holds all 4 dealer coins and all 8 fed poker chips.
I'm. It selling it just yet as it is really expensive to make and people are already grumbling about the prices of the smaller ones. Oh we'll that's the price I pay for not getting crappy stuffade in china.
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As soon as I can convince the wife, I will want to pick up a few one these. I think they are spectacular because of the transparent sides with nearly perfect visibility.
But it is right, it isn't worth spending more on a case than what you spent on the cards. But if you didn't spend that much on your cards you wouldn't need to display them this way. Ultrapro makes some card cases that are only a few dollars and I use those to display a few of my decks that aren't worth as much. But these ones here are quality and expensive for a reason!
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Ya they may seem a bit pricey, but you get what you pay for. But as Jackson eluded to, these probably aren't what you want to house your Dragon Backs. I don't even want to put a dollar amount on what deck should go in one of these, I think it's up to the person. I have a few decks that aren't more then $50-60 dollars, but knowing there secure and I don't ever have to worry about them being damaged and replaced is worth the investment, because while you may say "I can replace this...." do you really want to go through the process and the expense to do so?
I finally was able to get a Red Artifice, in the grand scheme of things not the most expensive deck to replace, but I really don't want to have to ............ I think I would grab a case for that.
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As soon as I can convince the wife, I will want to pick up a few one these. I think they are spectacular because of the transparent sides with nearly perfect visibility.
But it is right, it isn't worth spending more on a case than what you spent on the cards. But if you didn't spend that much on your cards you wouldn't need to display them this way. Ultrapro makes some card cases that are only a few dollars and I use those to display a few of my decks that aren't worth as much. But these ones here are quality and expensive for a reason!
Card cases big enough to hold a deck? Can we see them?
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As soon as I can convince the wife, I will want to pick up a few one these. I think they are spectacular because of the transparent sides with nearly perfect visibility.
But it is right, it isn't worth spending more on a case than what you spent on the cards. But if you didn't spend that much on your cards you wouldn't need to display them this way. Ultrapro makes some card cases that are only a few dollars and I use those to display a few of my decks that aren't worth as much. But these ones here are quality and expensive for a reason!
Card cases big enough to hold a deck? Can we see them?
Hands down the best single decks size cases out there. I have hundreds. From JP Middleton
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331101729144?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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As soon as I can convince the wife, I will want to pick up a few one these. I think they are spectacular because of the transparent sides with nearly perfect visibility.
But it is right, it isn't worth spending more on a case than what you spent on the cards. But if you didn't spend that much on your cards you wouldn't need to display them this way. Ultrapro makes some card cases that are only a few dollars and I use those to display a few of my decks that aren't worth as much. But these ones here are quality and expensive for a reason!
Card cases big enough to hold a deck? Can we see them?
I'll post a few of mine soon, but here is a link to them: http://www.ultrapro.com/product_info.php?products_id=652
I have been using the 100 count boxes which hold more than 2 decks. However, The larger ones actually get smaller near the bottom of the cases. It can hold decks with tuck boxes and celo, but they are normally a tight fit. I used to get them at walmart back when I collected sports cards and card games and they would normally have sleeves as well. Because the sleeves are a tad bigger, the boxes make up for the size difference and hold cards in tuck cases quite well.
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I used to buy the Ultrapro cases by the case lot, both the single deck (5) and the dual deck (100). The individual plastic box by the case lot, qty 100, drops the price dramatically. I found the lid does not quite fit tightly, ie. the lid drops off, you have to use a rubber band to keep the lid on. That wasn't too much of a problem the way I displayed them. If you are using these boxes for long-term storage beware:: they do not filter out UV light. You will have to control the environment in other ways. They also emit a plastic smell that can build up if the boxes are in another container or display case. You will need to provide for some air flow.
As far as using a box that is more expensive that the deck of cards, I have figured out that between my (1)protective plastic boxes, (2)display cases, (3)environmental controls, and (4)database costs, a dual deck setup costs me $13.00(USD) above what I paid for it. That is over the course of 5 years. A single deck, which is not common for me, costs $10.00(USD) in addition to the deck costs, That is excepting my garbage decks that don't get any special treatment, they are simply thrown into a box, awaiting disposal.
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I have a few hundred of the UltraPro cases as well, and I love them. I don't use them for displays, I just put decks that are rare/valuable/sure to appreciate in value in them, and then stagk them in my storage boxes. Extra protection for tuck corners, cellophane, signatures, or cello-less decks. It's cheap protection. I can easily look through the decks without fear of damaging them. The case lids don't fit tightly, but that can be remedied with a strip of clear (crystal clear, not the "Magic" tape) around one or two corners. That snugs them up. The decks fit snugly, but aren't difficult to remove if needed. I keep Fed52s, JNuggets, a special Ornate set, any signed decks, stuff like that, in them.
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I've got one of my 6-deck displays set up.
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I approve. :)
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I've got a second 6-deck Lucite display case from Kings Wild, and you can bet Zenith will go in it, Paul. :)
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Hey Jackson,
Do the decks have to be of a similar size? Or is it if they fit in the cutout?
I have a deck Im thinking about displaying thats thicker than most decks when in the box and much smaller than a deck with a tuck when I take the box off. Im afraid it might not be able to be displayed with some of my other decks.
Hopefully I'm not too late to this and it never gets seen.
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Hey Jackson,
Do the decks have to be of a similar size? Or is it if they fit in the cutout?
I have a deck Im thinking about displaying thats thicker than most decks when in the box and much smaller than a deck with a tuck when I take the box off. Im afraid it might not be able to be displayed with some of my other decks.
Hopefully I'm not too late to this and it never gets seen.
The cases are designed for standard size decks. I couldn't guarantee anything as I haven't tried putting odd sized decks in them yet. Sorry
J
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Fair enough. If it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit I'll have to see what I can do if I end up ordering the case.
Thanks for getting back to me.
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My federal 52 set with all (yep all, all 8 poker chips even the 3 unreleased poker chips) in a custom Lucite case and my Sherlock set in a formally kings wild exclusive Lucite case.
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Great Question
Here are the dem:
1 Deck 5" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
2 Deck 8" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
3 Deck 11" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
4 Deck 15" 11/16 x 6" 3/16
5 Deck 18" 11/16 x 6" 3/16
6 Deck 11" 11/16 x 11" 11/16
8 Deck 15" 11/16 x 11" 11/16.
Jackson, do you have a linear, horizontal 6 deck display?
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Great Question
Here are the dem:
1 Deck 5" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
2 Deck 8" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
3 Deck 11" 11/16 x 5" 11/16
4 Deck 15" 11/16 x 6" 3/16
5 Deck 18" 11/16 x 6" 3/16
6 Deck 11" 11/16 x 11" 11/16
8 Deck 15" 11/16 x 11" 11/16.
Jackson, do you have a linear, horizontal 6 deck display?
Unfortunately I don't offer lucite cases anymore on my site. However you could possibly contact Ben S (above) for a custom order or Gambler's Warehouse they make a great product too. Both manufacturers are USA based and produce everything here in the states so the quality is great with either choice.
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Well it looks like Gambler's Warehouse is ripping off my design. Well sort of (they are stealing the image of my product). they are using a laser cutting system (leaves major lines) mechanical flame polishing (crap, substandard polishing). Sorry but there is no substitute for hand polishing, but big companies can only compete with price not quality. A US craftsman doing it by hand cant compete with the price but the quality cant be touched. These guys are ripping off my design with crap and offering it on ebay. Well let them sell a few and then they are done LOL.
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Well it looks like Gambler's Warehouse is ripping off my design. Well sort of (they are stealing the image of my product). they are using a laser cutting system (leaves major lines) mechanical flame polishing (crap, substandard polishing). Sorry but there is no substitute for hand polishing, but big companies can only compete with price not quality. A US craftsman doing it by hand cant compete with the price but the quality cant be touched. These guys are ripping off my design with crap and offering it on ebay. Well let them sell a few and then they are done LOL.
Just wondering, do you have a website? Can anyone purchase from you? I mean, I see you posting everywhere about others ripping off your design and that what they are selling is crap, but how can someone order your products?
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Well it looks like Gambler's Warehouse is ripping off my design. Well sort of (they are stealing the image of my product). they are using a laser cutting system (leaves major lines) mechanical flame polishing (crap, substandard polishing). Sorry but there is no substitute for hand polishing, but big companies can only compete with price not quality. A US craftsman doing it by hand cant compete with the price but the quality cant be touched. These guys are ripping off my design with crap and offering it on ebay. Well let them sell a few and then they are done LOL.
Just wondering, do you have a website? Can anyone purchase from you? I mean, I see you posting everywhere about others ripping off your design and that what they are selling is crap, but how can someone order your products?
I was wondering if you designed the Lucite cases for Ellusionist? I think it only held 1 deck. It was something they did special with a Signed Scarlet Rounder I believe. Someone else here will know for sure, but I think it was about a year ago. I just remember it looking very similar to yours.
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Well it looks like Gambler's Warehouse is ripping off my design. Well sort of (they are stealing the image of my product). they are using a laser cutting system (leaves major lines) mechanical flame polishing (crap, substandard polishing). Sorry but there is no substitute for hand polishing, but big companies can only compete with price not quality. A US craftsman doing it by hand cant compete with the price but the quality cant be touched. These guys are ripping off my design with crap and offering it on ebay. Well let them sell a few and then they are done LOL.
Just wondering, do you have a website? Can anyone purchase from you? I mean, I see you posting everywhere about others ripping off your design and that what they are selling is crap, but how can someone order your products?
ATM I'm just selling on Ebay. MSDT165. Sorry to get so bent out of shape about this but would any other craftsman be upset if someone hijacked their design? Jackson and I could not come to an agreement soooo OK, but it does not make it ok for someone to seal a craftsman's design?
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Well it looks like Gambler's Warehouse is ripping off my design. Well sort of (they are stealing the image of my product). they are using a laser cutting system (leaves major lines) mechanical flame polishing (crap, substandard polishing). Sorry but there is no substitute for hand polishing, but big companies can only compete with price not quality. A US craftsman doing it by hand cant compete with the price but the quality cant be touched. These guys are ripping off my design with crap and offering it on ebay. Well let them sell a few and then they are done LOL.
Just wondering, do you have a website? Can anyone purchase from you? I mean, I see you posting everywhere about others ripping off your design and that what they are selling is crap, but how can someone order your products?
I was wondering if you designed the Lucite cases for Ellusionist? I think it only held 1 deck. It was something they did special with a Signed Scarlet Rounder I believe. Someone else here will know for sure, but I think it was about a year ago. I just remember it looking very similar to yours.
No I did not design for Ellusionist theirs is ok but, my cases are not even close to theirs. My single deck is much more compact then theirs and I designed cases to hold 1,2,3,4,5,6,8 decks plus some custom cases. They have a nice router finished edge on theirs but all mine have a hand polished edge.
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Well it looks like Gambler's Warehouse is ripping off my design. Well sort of (they are stealing the image of my product). they are using a laser cutting system (leaves major lines) mechanical flame polishing (crap, substandard polishing). Sorry but there is no substitute for hand polishing, but big companies can only compete with price not quality. A US craftsman doing it by hand cant compete with the price but the quality cant be touched. These guys are ripping off my design with crap and offering it on ebay. Well let them sell a few and then they are done LOL.
Just wondering, do you have a website? Can anyone purchase from you? I mean, I see you posting everywhere about others ripping off your design and that what they are selling is crap, but how can someone order your products?
ATM I'm just selling on Ebay. MSDT165. Sorry to get so bent out of shape about this but would any other craftsman be upset if someone hijacked their design? Jackson and I could not come to an agreement soooo OK, but it does not make it ok for someone to seal a craftsman's design?
You really need to stop with this whining. You're on both forums spewing unproven facts.
Until you've done a side by side comparison, how do you know it's not the same quality?
Trashing another company without seeing their goods makes no sense at all.
You seem extremely unprofessional, and cutting holes in acrylic to fit playing cards is hardly stealing your idea.
Ellusionist did it first.
You are just pissy because you have a competitor... get over it.
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I'm forced to agree with CBJ on this, Ben. You are neither the first nor the last person on Earth to create acrylic playing card display boxes. The idea is NOT original, at least not from you.
Do you employ certain design features that others don't? Perhaps. If that's indeed the case, you PROMOTE those differences like a professional instead of whining about your competitors like a child who just dropped an ice cream cone. And if the "differences" so subtle that they're like the difference between six eggs and a half-dozen eggs, they're really not different in any meaningful way to the consumer - they won't see the difference and thus won't care.
If you have a superior product and can offer a good, competitive price for it, the blasted things will practically sell themselves. If you don't have a better product and/or can't compete on price, you should stop being in the acrylic deck case business and find something else you can do better.
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I was trying to be more subtle about it, but I agree with these guys. Impress us with what you have. If someone else does something similar, just make sure yours is the best. If they are using a photo that you own. Then send them a cease and desist. Telling us about it won't stop them from using it.
You have a great looking product, but unfortunately it appears your attitude has turned some people off. Try to make a positive about this. Consider it a little life lesson about humility. Participate here, and turn things around. Prove and show us why we should buy your cases.