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Title: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: PurpleIce on March 09, 2014, 10:52:19 PM
From the same guy who designed the Requiem Deck.

"To be on KS after Requiem Playing Cards are delivered to backers."

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/requiemcards/heretic-playing-cards (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/requiemcards/heretic-playing-cards)

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More images and updates can be found on https://www.facebook.com/hereticcards
I personally think this guy deserves more credit. Looks like 2 nice decks in a row.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards
Post by: Don Boyer on March 10, 2014, 01:58:18 AM
No joke, that's a solid-looking deck.  I like it.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards
Post by: DarkDerp on March 10, 2014, 05:37:31 PM
Count me in!!
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards
Post by: maggock on March 10, 2014, 07:21:38 PM
I just barely missed Requiem and I'm a bit annoyed at myself about it (I had a chance and waffled too long).  I won't be making the same mistake with this deck!
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards
Post by: Card Player on March 11, 2014, 04:09:41 PM
This is very nice. I might not buy them but I can appreciate how well designed they are.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards
Post by: Aptombstone on March 11, 2014, 04:19:27 PM
Just very cool design and theme. Hits all the right spots in my book. Possibly backing.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards
Post by: MrMollusk on March 11, 2014, 06:44:43 PM
I love these kind of decks.

I backed the Requiem, and I'll definitely be backing these.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards
Post by: Anthony on March 11, 2014, 07:56:38 PM
Yep these are definitely on the radar, great work!
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards
Post by: Mike Ratledge on May 21, 2014, 09:01:47 PM
It's official. Now that we have approval from KS, Heretic will launch at 3pm EDT (not standard time, I don't have the .AI file so I can't fix it...
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: rjtomlinson1977 on May 22, 2014, 01:00:43 AM
I can't wait!!!  :)
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: D. Dorn on May 22, 2014, 01:45:47 PM
My Requiems are in my hands.  Looking forward to these.  I just hope my parents have internet access, as I'll be visiting them for Memorial Day.

Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Magic_Orthodoxy on May 24, 2014, 09:31:37 AM
Hold on to your hats and glasses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqvyEH97PXw
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on May 24, 2014, 09:33:59 AM
Hold on to your hats and glasses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqvyEH97PXw

Why, is someone running around swiping them?  :))
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Magic_Orthodoxy on May 24, 2014, 09:37:27 AM
It's a line from the "Thunder Mountain" ride at the Disney parks.  :D
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Stockholm17 on May 25, 2014, 06:22:03 AM
hi guys! thank you for the post :)

Tonight i launch it, finally :)

9pm Central Europe Time
3pm NYC time

I hope you will enjoy the campaign as it was for Requiem, and later the decks when they arrive
cheers
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: splice42 on May 25, 2014, 10:51:30 AM
Looking forward to this one, class and functionality all in one. Good job.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: badpete69 on May 25, 2014, 03:08:26 PM
Now live  Modified OP with all the latest pics

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/requiemcards/heretic-playing-cards (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/requiemcards/heretic-playing-cards)

Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on May 25, 2014, 11:35:33 PM
hi guys! thank you for the post :)

Tonight i launch it, finally :)

9pm Central Europe Time
3pm NYC time

I hope you will enjoy the campaign as it was for Requiem, and later the decks when they arrive
cheers

Looks like you're doing well so far - I plan to back it soon.

I find it VERY refreshing that you're not selling a million little tchotchkes to go with the deck.  It shows greater focus and honestly, how many dice sets and dealer coins does one person actually need, especially if they're not a primary focus of their collection?
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: tyl3r on May 26, 2014, 08:51:34 AM
Really diggin' the looks of this deck. In for 2 already, but will probably update when Noctis gets unlocked :)

Thanks for keeping shipping prices for international backers reasonable as well! Looking forward to receiving these  ;D
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: CordedTires on May 26, 2014, 11:02:37 AM
Excellent, I'm in.

Requiem was way too disturbing for me. I have tender sensibilities, and the Queen of Hearts was ... Ack.

But the level of artistic unease in these is just right. I'm glad to be able to buy something from this artist, I think he's really good.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: ATS on May 27, 2014, 08:00:29 AM
hi guys! thank you for the post :)

Tonight i launch it, finally :)

9pm Central Europe Time
3pm NYC time

I hope you will enjoy the campaign as it was for Requiem, and later the decks when they arrive
cheers

Looks like you're doing well so far - I plan to back it soon.

I find it VERY refreshing that you're not selling a million little tchotchkes to go with the deck.  It shows greater focus and honestly, how many dice sets and dealer coins does one person actually need, especially if they're not a primary focus of their collection?

Whilst the focus may be the cards, when add-ons are organized rather then a random smorgasbord of options, I do find it nice purchasing a few extras. Especially since I enjoy playing some poker games with a nice themed collection... albeit many do get overly cluttered with a million and one variable options.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: D. Dorn on May 27, 2014, 04:55:31 PM
Cool subtle 2-way on the backs.  Love the Spades' Courts! (really love all of them, but the spades are extra special, in my opinion!)

In for 2, more when Noctis hits the mark.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on May 28, 2014, 01:57:11 AM
Cool subtle 2-way on the backs.  Love the Spades' Courts! (really love all of them, but the spades are extra special, in my opinion!)

In for 2, more when Noctis hits the mark.

I think you meant "Cool, subtle one-way design on the backs."  'Cause they aren't two-way, they're one-way.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Yin on May 28, 2014, 03:08:06 AM
I really dislike being an international backer ... all the extra money that could have gone to buying more decks :P

Pledged for 3 and will add more when the other deck gets unlocked.

Kinda bummed that I missed Requim, and there are sites selling them for $27 each? So doubt I'll be getting any of them :(
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on May 28, 2014, 04:11:46 AM

I really dislike being an international backer ... all the extra money that could have gone to buying more decks :P

You should use a consolidation service, like shipito.com.  They give you a US address you can use to receive deliveries from US companies at the domestic rate, then once you've accumulated enough items, they'll re-ship everything to you in a single package.  Depending on what such a service charges and what the companies you order from charge for international and domestic shipping, it can add up to noteworthy savings for you.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Leif on May 28, 2014, 04:15:07 AM
Cool subtle 2-way on the backs.  Love the Spades' Courts! (really love all of them, but the spades are extra special, in my opinion!)

In for 2, more when Noctis hits the mark.

I think you meant "Cool, subtle one-way design on the backs."  'Cause they aren't two-way, they're one-way.

Looking at that back, I see two different one-way designs, is that usually how it is done? Shouldn't one be enough? Great deck, BTW.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on May 28, 2014, 04:41:38 AM

Looking at that back, I see two different one-way designs, is that usually how it is done? Shouldn't one be enough? Great deck, BTW.

If the overall design looks different when rotated 180 degrees, it's said to be a one-way back design - the proper mathematical term is that it lacks the radial symmetry needed to make it a two-way design.  The design can be radially asymmetric in more than one way, meaning that more than a single portion of the design creates radial asymmetry, though it's usually more subtle to do so only in one specific area and in the smallest possible way that's still visually detectable for anyone knowing where to look.  For you to see "two different one-way designs," you'd have to be looking at two radially asymmetric card backs - I'm assuming you meant that two specific areas of the card back design create radial asymmetry.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Leif on May 28, 2014, 05:00:14 AM

Looking at that back, I see two different one-way designs, is that usually how it is done? Shouldn't one be enough? Great deck, BTW.

If the overall design looks different when rotated 180 degrees, it's said to be a one-way back design - the proper mathematical term is that it lacks the radial symmetry needed to make it a two-way design.  The design can be radially asymmetric in more than one way, meaning that more than a single portion of the design creates radial asymmetry, though it's usually more subtle to do so only in one specific area and in the smallest possible way that's still visually detectable for anyone knowing where to look.  For you to see "two different one-way designs," you'd have to be looking at two radially asymmetric card backs - I'm assuming you meant that two specific areas of the card back design create radial asymmetry.

Right, that was what I meant, two of the different design elements that this back consists of, creates radial asymmetry, when rotated 180 degrees. I should have been more clear with that.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: D. Dorn on June 02, 2014, 03:57:31 PM
I'm still learning the terms... 

So, is there just the one element that makes this deck one way?  or are there other points of difference that I missed? 

Either way, I'm pretty excited about this deck.  I will up my pledge when Noctis is reached and I can add them on.

Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 03, 2014, 03:58:08 AM
I'm still learning the terms... 

So, is there just the one element that makes this deck one way?  or are there other points of difference that I missed? 

Either way, I'm pretty excited about this deck.  I will up my pledge when Noctis is reached and I can add them on.

If you look at the border of diamonds running around the outer edge of the design, you'll see that one side has little round things in the corners while the other side has little crescent moons.  You could call that two points of one-way design, but they're of the same design element, so I'm not sure I would say such.  But described in simplest terms, it's a one-way back.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Leif on June 03, 2014, 03:15:50 PM
The other place that is different is the circle of dots, on one half they are cut off by the circle with the symbol thingie, and the side circles too, but not at the other.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on June 03, 2014, 11:50:11 PM
Ah, I finally see it.  In the image below I took the effort to identify and display the assorted one way markings.

Click on it to enlarge it.

The best one-way marks are usually at the corners of the card to allow for easy spotting, but sometimes spotting them is TOO easy and even laypeople can spot them.  These marks aren't the best hidden ones I've seen, but they're still small enough that it's unlikely anyone would spot them accidentally during your routine or poker game.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Sher143 on June 04, 2014, 07:20:51 AM
For anyone on here who hasn't seen it yet, here are pictures of the custom tuck box and seal. :D If you're on the fence and haven't pledged yet, this may convince you. And there's more surprises to come!!!

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prototype box with prototype deck, placeholder progressive limited edition number.

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The big flap goes under a round cut. This is the way to keep it closed if the seal is removed
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Magic_Orthodoxy on June 09, 2014, 12:38:45 PM
giving away my Heretic prototype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2tduqsrz0c
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: MrMollusk on June 10, 2014, 11:28:00 PM
That tuck and seal both look amazing!
Title: Heretic Playing Cards Deck - Kickstarter Campaign FINAL HOURS
Post by: Kristos on June 23, 2014, 06:39:56 PM
Hey all, just wanted to give a shout out to this deck campaign that has less than 24 hours to go.  It is easily one of the most unique designs I've seen and the fact that it is being printed by EPCC says so much about the quality of the print and paper stock to be used.  If interested definitely check it out and become a backer before the campaign ends.  Below are links to the campaign and facebook page.

Kickstarter:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/requiemcards/heretic-playing-cards

Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/hereticcards
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards Deck - Kickstarter Campaign FINAL HOURS
Post by: Don Boyer on June 23, 2014, 08:11:25 PM
Hey all, just wanted to give a shout out to this deck campaign that has less than 24 hours to go.  It is easily one of the most unique designs I've seen and the fact that it is being printed by EPCC says so much about the quality of the print and paper stock to be used.  If interested definitely check it out and become a backer before the campaign ends.  Below are links to the campaign and facebook page.

Kickstarter:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/requiemcards/heretic-playing-cards

Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/hereticcards

Thanks for the heads-up, Kristos.  For future reference, we try to keep the Playing Card Plethora down to a single topic per deck, so I merged yours with the pre-existing topic.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Sher143 on June 24, 2014, 08:39:45 AM
6 more hours to go... Here are pictures of the Heretic Lux and Noctis tuck boxes, the Brick XI with 5 Lux and 5 Noctis sealed in a special brick box along with a deck sized acrylic brick with the Heretic logo. Yes, it has only a total of 10 decks, not 12... and that is a heresy. Also, check out the free gifts!

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Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Fess on January 30, 2015, 02:44:45 PM
I received mine and couldn't help but pop a tuck last night. As cool as they all are and have been and will be, No Photos do these decks justice in my opinion. If you didn't get in on the KS, find a couple somewhere. You won't regret it with these. I've never said that before in my life and may never say it again. These absolutely warrant the comment though.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: EvanEssence on January 30, 2015, 03:24:58 PM
Sell me an opened case!
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Collector on January 30, 2015, 07:08:14 PM
...No Photos do these decks justice in my opinion...

You tease me.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Magasaki on February 26, 2015, 09:28:03 AM
I've been playing around with my Heretics the last few days and although the cards are awesome, i have to confess I have grown to hate the tucks. I find that the way the base is glued with a fold on the inside means you have to insert the cards back in a certain way, and the tuck flap itself is difficult to get underneath the cut which holds it in place, and once there it comes out very easily. Really really not a fan of this tuck design.

The rest is rad though.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: rjtomlinson1977 on February 27, 2015, 05:51:39 AM
I agree... Tuck looks cool but doesn't function as good as it looks.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: Don Boyer on February 28, 2015, 12:24:01 AM
I've been playing around with my Heretics the last few days and although the cards are awesome, i have to confess I have grown to hate the tucks. I find that the way the base is glued with a fold on the inside means you have to insert the cards back in a certain way, and the tuck flap itself is difficult to get underneath the cut which holds it in place, and once there it comes out very easily. Really really not a fan of this tuck design.

The rest is rad though.

If you tilt the cards as you're placing them, you might avoid this problem.  I run into it sometimes with USPC decks; some silly flap at the bottom is impeding me from placing the whole deck in because it's like a sort of a jam stopping the cards from going all the way down.
Title: Re: Heretic Playing Cards (KS)
Post by: modenaboy on February 28, 2015, 09:35:07 PM
I have a few decks which come with a tuck that makes it difficult to put the cards back in (mostly landscape tucks). For the Heretics, I just put in about 3/4 of the cards (against the back of the tuck) and then put in the rest. If I try and put them all in the tuck at the same time, I run into the same problem you mention, they hit the fold on the bottom. However, I've gotten used to putting them back in two steps, and given how nice tuck looks (and it feels pretty solid), I'm OK with that.

-- Gordie

I've been playing around with my Heretics the last few days and although the cards are awesome, i have to confess I have grown to hate the tucks. I find that the way the base is glued with a fold on the inside means you have to insert the cards back in a certain way, and the tuck flap itself is difficult to get underneath the cut which holds it in place, and once there it comes out very easily. Really really not a fan of this tuck design.

The rest is rad though.