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Playing Card Chat ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦ => Playing Card Plethora => Topic started by: ruicorreia on July 03, 2014, 02:37:51 PM
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On Season's FB page, they announced this: "Hope you're excited. It's about time this goes full circle. #FinalSeasons".
But they only posted this picture.
Being a fan of the previous decks, I'm wanting to see more!!
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One of my favorite decks, I'm right there with you ruicorreia, very exciting!
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Nice! Finally jumped into this deck recently as I missed the initial run. Glad to see I might get in at that ground floor with the next set. Tease photos...
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I actually liked the 2nd edition better as I prefer silver to gold. Looking forward to getting in on the new one as well. The Seasons Set is on my "top shelf" :)
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I've seen a bit more and I think that if you liked the amazing work in the first two decks you'll be pleased. I am very much looking forward to adding more of Alex's designs to my display case.
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I've been on Seasons decks since the beginning. Looking forward to these for sure.
I find it coincidental, the timing of Alex's announcement and the Dan and Dave Variety Box. Wondering if these are already printed and If one is being slipped into the New Variety Box? Alex has come back to the forum after a long absence and posted on some threads that are at this point unrelated to the seasons deck. Dan and Dave variety being one of them.
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I've been on Seasons decks since the beginning. Looking forward to these for sure.
I find it coincidental, the timing of Alex's announcement and the Dan and Dave Variety Box. Wondering if these are already printed and If one is being slipped into the New Variety Box? Alex has come back to the forum after a long absence and posted on some threads that are at this point unrelated to the seasons deck. Dan and Dave variety being one of them.
Unfortunately these are not already printed yet. There is no relation to this and the Variety Box. I am looking to do a Kickstarter at the moment and look forward to your support! I will be sure to post some more pictures soon.
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Well, since this hasn't been posted...
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..........and now we wait :(
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Summer and winter, looking forward to it!
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I think the primavera and seronda decks are among the most beautiful decks ever made. Unfortunately I haven't picked them up yet, I hope I can pick up all four of them at the same time.
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I think the primavera and seronda decks are among the most beautiful decks ever made. Unfortunately I haven't picked them up yet, I hope I can pick up all four of them at the same time.
DON'T WAIT. I can't make it any plainer than that. They're already not so easy to find and demand will spike when the summer and winter decks come out.
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I think the primavera and seronda decks are among the most beautiful decks ever made. Unfortunately I haven't picked them up yet, I hope I can pick up all four of them at the same time.
DON'T WAIT. I can't make it any plainer than that. They're already not so easy to find and demand will spike when the summer and winter decks come out.
Hm, ok, I couldn't miss that. There are two versions of these, right? Gold and silvery something? I'm opening all my decks, so which ones are more readily available, and what prices would be considered fair?
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Hm, ok, I couldn't miss that. There are two versions of these, right? Gold and silvery something? I'm opening all my decks, so which ones are more readily available, and what prices would be considered fair?
First was Gold Edition. Second was Platinum Edition. On eBay, Gold runs in the ballpark of $25/pair, Platinum is just under $20/pair. They won't stay there when the new decks hit. They are not easy to find - very few offers on eBay right now.
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First was Gold Edition. Second was Platinum Edition. On eBay, Gold runs in the ballpark of $25/pair, Platinum is just under $20/pair. They won't stay there when the new decks hit. They are not easy to find - very few offers on eBay right now.
Thanks, Don. I'll keep an eye out for the platinum edition, I think.
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Well, since this hasn't been posted...
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..........and now we wait :(
Great.... ;D
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The platinum edition is still available at seasonsplayingcards.com for $25.oo for the pair and reasonable shipping.
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I'm glad that you guys are interested in the decks! I've decided to pull the trigger over the nervousness and set a date for August 25th to launch the KS. Here is a preview of what the Inverno back will look like:
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I'm glad that you guys are interested in the decks! I've decided to pull the trigger over the nervousness and set a date for August 25th to launch the KS. Here is a preview of what the Inverno back will look like:
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Sexy!
Have you decided on a manufacture yet?
USPCC Loyalty or Legends Pioneer?
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Cool! I just picked up my first set of Seasons v2 Platinum about a month ago. I found a set of opened decks I picked up today, that I can take out and actually enjoy.
Really looking forward to Verana and Inverno... Probably more so than any other deck (that I can afford) this year.
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"The cold never bothered me, anyway..."
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Sexy!
Have you decided on a manufacture yet?
USPCC Loyalty or Legends Pioneer?
It will be a slightly more expensive production to go with USPCC in comparison to EPCC but its necessary to maintain the texture and consistency through the series. I wanted to make sure that those that currently own the first series will be happy to have the sets match.
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Sexy!
Have you decided on a manufacture yet?
USPCC Loyalty or Legends Pioneer?
It will be a slightly more expensive production to go with USPCC in comparison to EPCC but its necessary to maintain the texture and consistency through the series. I wanted to make sure that those that currently own the first series will be happy to have the sets match.
You should contact EPCC, anyway. I'm pretty sure they can produce a stock and finish that matches that of USPC. Just ask - the worst that would happen is that they say no.
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Winter is the last and harshest of the seasons, Destroying and killing much of what the past seasons cultivated. The beauty of winter to me (besides hot snowboarding girls) comes with a sense of rebirth. New life, new knowledge. Winter has always stuck me as a time for new beginnings.
(And hot snowboarding girls)
This is your art, stay true to Your vision , I advise taking a look at expert and see how they could help add to your project, if they can't then rock on with uspcc.
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Thank you to whomever first posted this, you have exposed me to such beauty and I just got my seronda and primavera decks today, I can't stop running my fingers over the glorious embossing and sensual foil of the box.
I think USPCC did a great job on these and also I think consistency with a series is important.
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Thank you to whomever first posted this, you have exposed me to such beauty and I just got my seronda and primavera decks today, I can't stop running my fingers over the glorious embossing and sensual foil of the box.
I think USPCC did a great job on these and also I think consistency with a series is important.
(OK, Rose, try not to drool on them...) :))
Seriously, this will be among the most anticipated releases of the year. And that's no small feat.
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So this isn't the most glamorous link in the world but it will be the most efficient way to see people's thoughts on the upcoming set. I'm hoping by collecting this data it will better help me cater the final launch to what people are anticipating.
It takes about 2 minutes to complete.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/P6Y7WFH
Thanks for your support. Looking forward to your feedback!
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So this isn't the most glamorous link in the world but it will be the most efficient way to see people's thoughts on the upcoming set. I'm hoping by collecting this data it will better help me cater the final launch to what people are anticipating.
It takes about 2 minutes to complete.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/P6Y7WFH
Thanks for your support. Looking forward to your feedback!
Thanks for the link! From the looks of it, you're going to Kickstarter?
Can't wait for the release! The seasons are some of my all-time favorite decks!
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Just did the survey. Thanks for taking our thoughts into consideration!
I'm currently playing with the seronda deck, at my computer while typing this. Stunning... one of my favorite black decks.
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Can't wait Alex :)
...and thanks for collaborating
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Can't wait for this! Subscribing to this thread in hopes of getting an early heads-up when the launch is coming...=)
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I closed out the survey. Thanks again guys. I got a lot of valuable feedback from it and applied it to the deck. The color schemes finally figured themselves out in a way that I think everyone will agree works and enjoys. Stay tuned for more pictures and updates as the KS date comes closer.
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I closed out the survey. Thanks again guys. I got a lot of valuable feedback from it and applied it to the deck. The color schemes finally figured themselves out in a way that I think everyone will agree works and enjoys. Stay tuned for more pictures and updates as the KS date comes closer.
Curious how the results of the survey turned out!
PS: Cool of you to take the survey in the first place...=)
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I hope you decide to stay with USPCC, Alex. I know there's a lot of talk about EPCC these days but in my mind they're not yet producing quality cards that can match USPCC if we're talking handling.
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I hope you decide to stay with USPCC, Alex. I know there's a lot of talk about EPCC these days but in my mind they're not yet producing quality cards that can match USPCC if we're talking handling.
I second that...
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Curious how the results of the survey turned out!
PS: Cool of you to take the survey in the first place...=)
After looking over the feedback that everyone participated in I took some time to modify and upgrade the decks.
Verana (Summer) will have a metallic gold accent on a white deck while Inverno (Winter) will have a metallic silver/blue accent on a black deck.
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Also if you like Seasons it would be super duper cool if you could nominate me :) It takes about a minute to do. http://playingcardawards.com/nominations/ (http://playingcardawards.com/nominations/)
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August is turning out to be quite the month. Really looking forward to this. :D
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Curious how the results of the survey turned out!
PS: Cool of you to take the survey in the first place...=)
After looking over the feedback that everyone participated in I took some time to modify and upgrade the decks.
Verana (Summer) will have a metallic gold accent on a white deck while Inverno (Winter) will have a metallic silver/blue accent on a black deck.
(http://s4f73d8f8a28ce.img.gostorego.com/809E82/cdn/media/s4/f7/3d/8f/8a/28/ce/Winter-Gif-Placement.gif)
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Also if you like Seasons it would be super duper cool if you could nominate me :) It takes about a minute to do. http://playingcardawards.com/nominations/ (http://playingcardawards.com/nominations/)
They both look amazing! I personally prefer the Winters, but I'm partial to blue...
Can't wait to get my hands on these! You'll definitely be seeing a pledge from me!
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Here are some more comprehensive shots of Verana. These summer decks will compliment the winter with a gold accent. These decks are made to emphasize the transitioning nature of the Seasons so it was important to keep our iconic box design. This way they are able to work with Primavera and Seronda as well.
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Kardify.com
15 hours ago
August 26th on Kardify.com 1ON1...
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@ IAmTheChin:
I like everything I'm seeing and hearing so far. Happy to hear the gold and blue/silver will be metallic inks. I was not sure per the survey I participated in. :))
I think the face cards are going to make or break this project for me. I noticed what looks to be a very nice looking updated court face your using as your discourse logo. Are you revamping all the court cards from previous Seasons Decks?
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Any update on the timing (as in time of day) of the KS launch for this project?
Edited as I realized it's next week, not this week...=P
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Any update on the timing (as in time of day) of the KS launch for this project?
Edited as I realized it's next week, not this week...=P
It's set for 4pm CST.
@ IAmTheChin:
I think the face cards are going to make or break this project for me.
I'm going to post pictures later today of the court cards. I'd love to hear your opinions on it.
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Looking for last minute opinions (and why)!
This is something that I absolutely love about the set but it is something that I feel people might have strong feelings about. The Seasons set is about emphasizing the change in design that this deck goes through over time, from the colors to the designs. I decided that it would make most sense if the winter deck expressed true duality with the summer set by being the only deck in the series with a reverse pip orientation.
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Full Resolution Image: http://s4f73d8f8a28ce.img.gostorego.com/809E82/cdn/media/s4/f7/3d/8f/8a/28/ce/court_card_comparisons.jpg (http://s4f73d8f8a28ce.img.gostorego.com/809E82/cdn/media/s4/f7/3d/8f/8a/28/ce/court_card_comparisons.jpg)
I just wanted to see if this is something that would really turn you on/off. It makes so much sense to me to have the pips this way but if this is too much change I can always bring it back. Trying to gauge people's thoughts on this. Thanks again!
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Looking for last minute opinions (and why)!
This is something that I absolutely love about the set but it is something that I feel people might have strong feelings about. The Seasons set is about emphasizing the change in design that this deck goes through over time, from the colors to the designs. I decided that it would make most sense if the winter deck expressed true duality with the summer set by being the only deck in the series with a reverse pip orientation.
I just wanted to see if this is something that would really turn you on/off. It makes so much sense to me to have the pips this way but if this is too much change I can always bring it back. Trying to gauge people's thoughts on this. Thanks again!
I'm completely turned off by indices in the reverse orientation. They make me have a frownie face and would completely mess up my poker game. I don't think the deck would be functional for any of the groups I play with. 98% of the decks I pick up are intended for use. I don't think that reverse indices would help with the whole 4.5 tricks I can do either haha.
If it's for artistic reasons, far be it for me to stifle creativity, I still caution against it. If the indices are in the right positions, I can live with reverse pips on the courts. That's not a major breaker for use at all. That may be a possible compromise. :)
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@ IAmTheChin
Here is my honest opinion:
1. I would not mess around with the pips! keep them simple and solid like platinum edition. The function of the pips is extremely important. Your pips were already different. These are overkill. You want to keep some continuity to the original seasons.
2. The design background on the number cards is too much. It worked with the Lee's empire deck. It looks cheap here. Its not your best design. Clean and Functional, you can't go wrong.
3. This is not as big of a concern as my #1 and #2 because I love the color of gold. However, the original seasons tuck's had gold. I was thinking maybe a metallic"Red/Gold" might be better. Still summer but it balances the Blue/Silver of the Black deck much better as a set.
Right now #1 and #2 are stopping me from backing this deck. That's just me. I'm sure others will love it and still buy it either way. I know its tough as a designer using restraint. You always want to push the envelope and do more. Your original pips were classic.
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Don't worry guys. After the initial responses I've been hearing, I will definitely be doing standard pip orientation lol.
@ IAmTheChin
Your original pips were classic.
@Card Player
1) I loved the idea of keeping the pips the same for consistency but I felt a large pressure from the current decks on the market to upgrade the pips and add the background flourishes. I almost even eliminated the color red from Winter but just couldn't bring myself to do it. Are you saying that you would much rather prefer the old pips as they were?
2) The red-gold accent is an interesting idea that I actually tried out before (along with green) but had very little luck with. The red was a bit overwhelming on the court cards The voted color schemes were:
Winter: Black/Silver/Blue
Summer: White/Gold/Red
When I had a tinted red gold it was a bit too much. When I tried a green instead of gold it looked too tacky. It would be neat if they didn't double up on the first editions but the voted color schemes just made so much sense and they just look so darn good :)
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I thought orange would be very striking, but that was probably just me lol. :)
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Are you saying that you would much rather prefer the old pips as they were?
Yes, Exactly.
2) The red-gold accent is an interesting idea that I actually tried out before (along with green) but had very little luck with. The red was a bit overwhelming on the court cards The voted color schemes were:
Winter: Black/Silver/Blue
Summer: White/Gold/Red
You already have some red in the red pip courts. I agree with you, it being overwhelming simply swamping the gold. I think the courts look great.
It does not have to be a pure yellow gold though. Maybe a rose/gold is closer to what I was thinking. Rose/Gold seems to be very popular these days. Just a suggestion.
All the best
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2. The design background on the number cards is too much. It worked with the Lee's empire deck. It looks cheap here. Its not your best design. Clean and Functional, you can't go wrong.
I'm not a traditionalist and a collector, so.....
I really like it when there is a background on the number cards. If I'm paying for a custom deck, I want it CUSTOM. However, I do agree it is a bit too in your face on the black. If you can make that more subtle it would be a winner for me. It worked well with Federal series and I think it works well on your white backed deck very well. I can see argument about keeping it like the originals, but I really like this.
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Looking for last minute opinions (and why)!
This is something that I absolutely love about the set but it is something that I feel people might have strong feelings about. The Seasons set is about emphasizing the change in design that this deck goes through over time, from the colors to the designs. I decided that it would make most sense if the winter deck expressed true duality with the summer set by being the only deck in the series with a reverse pip orientation.
Full Resolution Image: http://s4f73d8f8a28ce.img.gostorego.com/809E82/cdn/media/s4/f7/3d/8f/8a/28/ce/court_card_comparisons.jpg (http://s4f73d8f8a28ce.img.gostorego.com/809E82/cdn/media/s4/f7/3d/8f/8a/28/ce/court_card_comparisons.jpg)
I just wanted to see if this is something that would really turn you on/off. It makes so much sense to me to have the pips this way but if this is too much change I can always bring it back. Trying to gauge people's thoughts on this. Thanks again!
OK, my thoughts.
You're not talking about reverse PIPS so much as reverse INDICES (or INDEXES - both are considered proper English these days). Left-handed indices are difficult even for me to work with (at least when playing solitaire) and I'm a lefty. I'm simply too used to working with the standard location.
The color combinations of black/blue/silver and white/red/gold are classic combinations. My father once had a chess set his second wife made for him. The pieces were ceramic and several inches tall - I'm guessing between five and eight inches depending on the piece's rank. My father built the board on a sheet of plywood, using metal tiles in aluminum and copper as the squares and framing it in chrome. That set used the exact same color scheme you suggested, with flesh tones for the faces. Yes, the pieces had actual faces on them rather than an abstract design. Imagine each piece in a standard Staunton set a few multiples larger than normal and with a face sticking out of one side, making the pieces almost appear to be like helmets for the faces.
It really looked great. Stick with that.
Background detail on the spot cards? I'm fine with it, especially since it's subtle and doesn't interfere with identifying the cards in any way.
All in all, I'm still drooling! Take my money and send me cards already! :))
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All in all, I'm still drooling! Take my money and send me cards already! :))
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I got your back Don.
I've never used a "left handed" deck before, but if you get use to it. Could be an advantage at poker. Kind of throw the other guys off their game.
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I like the top version much better than the bottom version. I'm not a fan of the indices moving over to the right. I'm not a fan of the designer pips in either image. Smiley diamonds? Your deck. Your designs. Just my opinion.
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I've never used a "left handed" deck before, but if you get use to it. Could be an advantage at poker. Kind of throw the other guys off their game.
Actually, in poker they're pretty easy to use - even righties an adapt to it, if they're willing to try. It's solitaire where they get tougher for me.
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Looking for last minute opinions (and why)!
This is something that I absolutely love about the set but it is something that I feel people might have strong feelings about. The Seasons set is about emphasizing the change in design that this deck goes through over time, from the colors to the designs. I decided that it would make most sense if the winter deck expressed true duality with the summer set by being the only deck in the series with a reverse pip orientation.
(http://cdn.imghack.se/images/b406156991ccfda5d80ea7b687daa8ff.jpg)
Full Resolution Image: http://s4f73d8f8a28ce.img.gostorego.com/809E82/cdn/media/s4/f7/3d/8f/8a/28/ce/court_card_comparisons.jpg (http://s4f73d8f8a28ce.img.gostorego.com/809E82/cdn/media/s4/f7/3d/8f/8a/28/ce/court_card_comparisons.jpg)
I just wanted to see if this is something that would really turn you on/off. It makes so much sense to me to have the pips this way but if this is too much change I can always bring it back. Trying to gauge people's thoughts on this. Thanks again!
I am not a huge fan of the indicies being reversed. I understand the design element, and after a while I think it would begin to make sense and not bother me. I can see if I were using these cards to play poker it may throw me off a bit. I use the cards for flourishing and Magic, so the indicies being in the standard position matters for Magic but not for flourishing. So this deck may end up being used for one purpose over the other due to it's design. The water mark however, in my opinion is starting to be one of those things that is a fad. Hey everyone's doing it, why don't I? This comes down to how it is used. Is it part of the design? Does it add to the face of the card, or does it seem like an after thought? Look to Heretic and Aquila as examples. I feel that the back ground water marks were used in a way that flows with each of these decks. In the case of Heretic it is adding to the story flavor and is incorporated in a very eye pleasing manner. In Aquila, it flows to the pip cards from the courts in an inclusive way, and enhances the design as opposed to distracting me. These of course are personal opinions and aesthetics. Two more examples: Encarded's Zenith and Jackson Robinson's Hound of Baskervilles. They both have a circular water marks throughout the pip cards, and in the case of Zenith in the courts as well. At first, in the Hounds deck it made me a little nuts as the pattern is an H and a B interwoven, so of course this becomes a one way design. After I started working with the cards, I noticed that lay folks could not tell when the card was reversed whereas I could spot it. So it ended up being a great tool that grew on me as I used the cards. In the Zenith deck it is so much a part of the design and is so deliberate that I never questioned it. As of this draft of your design the water mark doesn't seem to flow with the cards. It is distracting me. These decks have such a flow in the design that I think you could find a way to make the water mark seem more a part of the cards and flow with the design, or you could just do away with it and have these match the clean style of the originals. As a fan of playing cards and a fan of design, I find that if the creator really sticks to their vision the cards are the works of art that I expected all along.
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Looking for last minute opinions (and why)!
This is something that I absolutely love about the set but it is something that I feel people might have strong feelings about. The Seasons set is about emphasizing the change in design that this deck goes through over time, from the colors to the designs. I decided that it would make most sense if the winter deck expressed true duality with the summer set by being the only deck in the series with a reverse pip orientation.
(http://cdn.imghack.se/images/b406156991ccfda5d80ea7b687daa8ff.jpg)
Full Resolution Image: http://s4f73d8f8a28ce.img.gostorego.com/809E82/cdn/media/s4/f7/3d/8f/8a/28/ce/court_card_comparisons.jpg (http://s4f73d8f8a28ce.img.gostorego.com/809E82/cdn/media/s4/f7/3d/8f/8a/28/ce/court_card_comparisons.jpg)
I just wanted to see if this is something that would really turn you on/off. It makes so much sense to me to have the pips this way but if this is too much change I can always bring it back. Trying to gauge people's thoughts on this. Thanks again!
I am not a huge fan of the indicies being reversed. I understand the design element, and after a while I think it would begin to make sense and not bother me. I can see if I were using these cards to play poker it may throw me off a bit. I use the cards for flourishing and Magic, so the indicies being in the standard position matters for Magic but not for flourishing. So this deck may end up being used for one purpose over the other due to it's design. The water mark however, in my opinion is starting to be one of those things that is a fad. Hey everyone's doing it, why don't I? This comes down to how it is used. Is it part of the design? Does it add to the face of the card, or does it seem like an after thought? Look to Heretic and Aquila as examples. I feel that the back ground water marks were used in a way that flows with each of these decks. In the case of Heretic it is adding to the story flavor and is incorporated in a very eye pleasing manner. In Aquila, it flows to the pip cards from the courts in an inclusive way, and enhances the design as opposed to distracting me. These of course are personal opinions and aesthetics. Two more examples: Encarded's Zenith and Jackson Robinson's Hound of Baskervilles. They both have a circular water marks throughout the pip cards, and in the case of Zenith in the courts as well. At first, in the Hounds deck it made me a little nuts as the pattern is an H and a B interwoven, so of course this becomes a one way design. After I started working with the cards, I noticed that lay folks could not tell when the card was reversed whereas I could spot it. So it ended up being a great tool that grew on me as I used the cards. In the Zenith deck it is so much a part of the design and is so deliberate that I never questioned it. As of this draft of your design the water mark doesn't seem to flow with the cards. It is distracting me. These decks have such a flow in the design that I think you could find a way to make the water mark seem more a part of the cards and flow with the design, or you could just do away with it and have these match the clean style of the originals. As a fan of playing cards and a fan of design, I find that if the creator really sticks to their vision the cards are the works of art that I expected all along.
Some excellent points. I think you and I are on the same page. I agree the watermark is a fad and on very rare occasions is anything more then a visual eyesore. That being the case, great design should be timeless. This watermark does not do anything for the deck.
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Any update on the timing (as in time of day) of the KS launch for this project?
Edited as I realized it's next week, not this week...=P
It's set for 4pm CST.
@ IAmTheChin:
I think the face cards are going to make or break this project for me.
I'm going to post pictures later today of the court cards. I'd love to hear your opinions on it.
I checked http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/, but it shows CDT rather than CST. I don't wanna get this one wrong again, so can someone please confirm the actual release time in GMT, or even better, Hong Kong time? =P
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Any update on the timing (as in time of day) of the KS launch for this project?
Edited as I realized it's next week, not this week...=P
It's set for 4pm CST.
@ IAmTheChin:
I think the face cards are going to make or break this project for me.
I'm going to post pictures later today of the court cards. I'd love to hear your opinions on it.
I checked http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/, but it shows CDT rather than CST. I don't wanna get this one wrong again, so can someone please confirm the actual release time in GMT, or even better, Hong Kong time? =P
You can just type Hong Kong rather than CST. Anyway, Hong Kong is GMT +8.
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Any update on the timing (as in time of day) of the KS launch for this project?
Edited as I realized it's next week, not this week...=P
It's set for 4pm CST.
@ IAmTheChin:
I think the face cards are going to make or break this project for me.
I'm going to post pictures later today of the court cards. I'd love to hear your opinions on it.
I checked http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/, but it shows CDT rather than CST. I don't wanna get this one wrong again, so can someone please confirm the actual release time in GMT, or even better, Hong Kong time? =P
You can just type Hong Kong rather than CST. Anyway, Hong Kong is GMT +8.
That's nice, but what I'm trying to confirm is what time the project will launch either in GMT or in HKT. I already know the conversion from GMT to HKT, which is why I'm fine knowing the launch time in either zone. What I'm not sure of is the conversion between CDT and HKT...
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Any update on the timing (as in time of day) of the KS launch for this project?
Edited as I realized it's next week, not this week...=P
It's set for 4pm CST.
@ IAmTheChin:
I think the face cards are going to make or break this project for me.
I'm going to post pictures later today of the court cards. I'd love to hear your opinions on it.
I checked http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/, but it shows CDT rather than CST. I don't wanna get this one wrong again, so can someone please confirm the actual release time in GMT, or even better, Hong Kong time? =P
You can just type Hong Kong rather than CST. Anyway, Hong Kong is GMT +8.
That's nice, but what I'm trying to confirm is what time the project will launch either in GMT or in HKT. I already know the conversion from GMT to HKT, which is why I'm fine knowing the launch time in either zone. What I'm not sure of is the conversion between CDT and HKT...
27 August at 16:00 in CDT
= 28 August at 05:00 in HKT
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That's nice, but what I'm trying to confirm is what time the project will launch either in GMT or in HKT. I already know the conversion from GMT to HKT, which is why I'm fine knowing the launch time in either zone. What I'm not sure of is the conversion between CDT and HKT...
CST = GMT minus 6 hours (in effect first Sun in Nov 2am to second Sun in Mar 2am)
CDT = GMT minus 5 hours
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Now on Kardify.com
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http://www.kardify.com/2014/08/1-on-1-alexander-chin-of-seasons.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook (http://www.kardify.com/2014/08/1-on-1-alexander-chin-of-seasons.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook)
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Now on Kardify.com
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http://www.kardify.com/2014/08/1-on-1-alexander-chin-of-seasons.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook (http://www.kardify.com/2014/08/1-on-1-alexander-chin-of-seasons.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook)
How up to date are those images?
The watermark is gone. That's a good thing. Pips look the same as originally first posted?
The limited edition tucks look sweet! I'm wondering what the cards look like on the inside? Spending money for just a limited edition tuck box is not something I have an interest in doing.
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Card Player, these are the most recent images from Alexender.
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It went live early and those early birds were long gone. Oh well.
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We're LIVE!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2062783196/seasons-a-changing-playing-card-series-printed-by
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Woohoo! Totally worth it to wake up at 5am for the launch... Managed to get in for the "lucky" KS2 tier! Thanks Alex!
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Woohoo! Totally worth it to wake up at 5am for the launch... Managed to get in for the "lucky" KS2 tier! Thanks Alex!
Aldazar,
Luck is "preparation meets opportunity" :D
Never a problem. I'm true to my word.
-Alex
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Nice job Alex. Already over 70% funded..........I helped a little!
(http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/2062783196/seasons-a-changing-playing-card-series-printed-by/minichart.png) (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/2062783196/seasons-a-changing-playing-card-series-printed-by/)
A few more pics for Don to drool over
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(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/002/479/636/01a38e08e7422fec402c00f143b98d8e_large.gif?1408865171)
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I told you it would fund within 24 hours, Alex. Congratulations, you deserve the success!
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Friendly reminder time on this one, there is less than 2 days left on this campaign. If you were thinking about this beautiful deck and haven't pulled the trigger yet. Don't miss out. :)
Also there is currently as I type this 1 of 10 available, KS3 - Gold Collectors series pledge spot open. Snag it if you want to be all :bosswalk: haha
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I really want to love these, and I do, mostly. But there are some tiny, tiny issues I would like to ask my fellow collectors about:
1. The color of the number and the letters part of the Indices seems to be black on the red cards too.(and white on the black deck) Aren't they usually red on the red cards? It looks a little strange to me.
2. On the Verana deck the index pips seem to all be with the white little thingy, except for the Ace of Spades?
3.Those white thingies, some seems to be blurred, some seems to be sharp, some seems to be of a brownish color. Is my computer or my eyes fooling me?
4. On the Inverno deck, only one of the middle pips of the Ten of Spades have the extra line, but on the Verana deck, The Ten of Diamonds have it on both middle pips.
5. To be honest, I don't feel those white thingies in the pips at all. The more I look at the cards the more I think the white lines detract from the pure awesomeness of the courts and backs.
I'm afraid I might be obsessing with tiny details too much.
And I only have 38 hours to make up my mind, Arrrgh.
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I really want to love these, and I do, mostly. But there are some tiny, tiny issues I would like to ask my fellow collectors about:
1. The color of the number and the letters part of the Indices seems to be black on the red cards too.(and white on the black deck) Aren't they usually red on the red cards? It looks a little strange to me.
2. On the Verana deck the index pips seem to all be with the white little thingy, except for the Ace of Spades?
3.Those white thingies, some seems to be blurred, some seems to be sharp, some seems to be of a brownish color. Is my computer or my eyes fooling me?
4. On the Inverno deck, only one of the middle pips of the Ten of Spades have the extra line, but on the Verana deck, The Ten of Diamonds have it on both middle pips.
5. To be honest, I don't feel those white thingies in the pips at all. The more I look at the cards the more I think the white lines detract from the pure awesomeness of the courts and backs.
I'm afraid I might be obsessing with tiny details too much.
And I only have 38 hours to make up my mind, Arrrgh.
I'll take a stab at it. :)
1. Yes usually. Since the two decks go together I believe he's making an artistic point with the colors of the letters and numbers on the indices. Usually I'm pretty anal about indices, with these I kinda get it.
2. Looks like it, solid pip on the AoS with the flamboyant spade placed center of the card. Again, I think it's an artistic choice there.
3. They all look pretty sharp to me with a slight shadow effect. Yes, some of them have the golden color added to the pip, the different color may make blend a bit and make it appear blurry on your screen. Personally I think the golden color looks nice and tie in well with the summer theme for that deck.
I think it's the little things that can set a deck apart, and the little things that can ruin the appeal of a deck. Hard to know which it will do. For me, I've been enjoying the little things with these but I can certainly see how they could bring about a different reaction. I really hope he reconsiders those limited seals if it cracks $65,000. I don't like those kinds of seals much. Happier knowing I have one of a thousand than it being stuck to the deck with a specific number.
I've been in the same boat before, limited time to make a decision and not knowing which way to go. The beauty of KS is you'll be able to pick them up retail after the fulfillment so there's no real lose strategy if you decide you like them later. :)
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I really want to love these, and I do, mostly. But there are some tiny, tiny issues I would like to ask my fellow collectors about:
1. The color of the number and the letters part of the Indices seems to be black on the red cards too.(and white on the black deck) Aren't they usually red on the red cards? It looks a little strange to me.
2. On the Verana deck the index pips seem to all be with the white little thingy, except for the Ace of Spades?
3.Those white thingies, some seems to be blurred, some seems to be sharp, some seems to be of a brownish color. Is my computer or my eyes fooling me?
4. On the Inverno deck, only one of the middle pips of the Ten of Spades have the extra line, but on the Verana deck, The Ten of Diamonds have it on both middle pips.
5. To be honest, I don't feel those white thingies in the pips at all. The more I look at the cards the more I think the white lines detract from the pure awesomeness of the courts and backs.
I'm afraid I might be obsessing with tiny details too much.
And I only have 38 hours to make up my mind, Arrrgh.
I'll take a stab at it. :)
1. Yes usually. Since the two decks go together I believe he's making an artistic point with the colors of the letters and numbers on the indices. Usually I'm pretty anal about indices, with these I kinda get it.
2. Looks like it, solid pip on the AoS with the flamboyant spade placed center of the card. Again, I think it's an artistic choice there.
3. They all look pretty sharp to me with a slight shadow effect. Yes, some of them have the golden color added to the pip, the different color may make blend a bit and make it appear blurry on your screen. Personally I think the golden color looks nice and tie in well with the summer theme for that deck.
I think it's the little things that can set a deck apart, and the little things that can ruin the appeal of a deck. Hard to know which it will do. For me, I've been enjoying the little things with these but I can certainly see how they could bring about a different reaction. I really hope he reconsiders those limited seals if it cracks $65,000. I don't like those kinds of seals much. Happier knowing I have one of a thousand than it being stuck to the deck with a specific number.
I've been in the same boat before, limited time to make a decision and not knowing which way to go. The beauty of KS is you'll be able to pick them up retail after the fulfillment so there's no real lose strategy if you decide you like them later. :)
Thank you for clearing up my questions in the most clear way possible. I should have guessed myself that it is intended, just look at the courts, everything is refined to perfection. Thanks also for the excellent advice, I can always get them later, and I probably will ;)
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If anyone is on the fence thinking they don't get the cool black box, there is 1 KS1 $155 spot open and 1 KS4 open. Under an hour though.
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Of all the kick starter campaigns, this one had me the most engaged. Hats off to Alex for a great set of cards!
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If you missed the Kickstarter there's an easy way to still pre-order the Verana and Inverno decks before they go full retail. Free shipping to US too! https://seasons.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders
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Can I still preorder from backerkit?
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Can I still preorder from backerkit?
Looks like you can if you follow his link.