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Title: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Nurul on September 18, 2014, 06:17:24 AM
LPCC posted this image on their Facebook.
"Slithering your way very soon"

Product Information

"Introducing Serpentine, a new classically themed line of playing cards from LPCC. We discovered a 100+ year-old pinochle deck at WOPC and fell in love with the classic back artwork and gorgeous faces. With help from generous collectors and playing card lovers we tracked down the original artwork. Our artists re-worked the back design and converted all the files so they were print-ready, as well as adding special touches like new pips and a custom Ace and Joker illustrated by Stuart Palm.

We printed Serpentine at a new factory, on traditionally cut European card stock, with precise printing registration. The cards faro easily, and our new Emerald Finish has a snap and feel in-between our stiffer Diamond Finish and softer Classic Finish.

Being a first edition, we printed a limited run of 1,000 decks in each color, a classic blue and orange, chosen to emulate the look of a classic deck of playing cards."
Title: Re: New deck from LPCC - Serpent?
Post by: Msp062 on September 22, 2014, 06:35:15 PM
The tuck box looks kinda bland compared to previous legends. I can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: New deck from LPCC - Serpent?
Post by: PrincessTrouble on September 24, 2014, 01:06:57 PM
These are now available:

http://www.legendsplayingcards.com/products/serpentine
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Nurul on September 24, 2014, 01:15:49 PM
Few images of the design.

AoD is a main focus, rather than the AoS.

I've also modified original post to include the actual name plus product description.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: HolyJJ on September 24, 2014, 04:03:06 PM
I love them! :D

I'm a big fan of classic, traditional designs, and I really like the fact that the courts have skin tone, just like the Fournier courts.

The fact that there's a new stock and finish, and that too from a new factory, makes me even more eager to test out this deck!

I've ordered 20, along with 1 deck of Smith No 3... and so $102 for 22 decks, including international shipping, I figured that I couldn't go wrong :D
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: ozfan30 on September 24, 2014, 05:33:36 PM
I ordered some, it says it is limited to 1000 of each color, so really one of the most affordable "limited" decks out there. The new factory and stock are of course unknowns, but I am curious to see how it handles.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Fess on September 24, 2014, 07:17:57 PM
These are going to be interesting. I'm pretty excited by these as well. Wonder what the unreleased deck will look like. Time will tell. I'm getting one my curiosity can not be denied haha.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: doubledouble on September 24, 2014, 07:44:45 PM
^ i was guessing that the unreleased deck would just be a sharps deck but maybe i'm wrong and it's something even better.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Card Player on September 24, 2014, 09:38:09 PM
I love them! :D

I'm a big fan of classic, traditional designs, and I really like the fact that the courts have skin tone, just like the Fournier courts.

The fact that there's a new stock and finish, and that too from a new factory, makes me even more eager to test out this deck!

I've ordered 20, along with 1 deck of Smith No 3... and so $102 for 22 decks, including international shipping, I figured that I couldn't go wrong :D

I'm with you. I love classic back designs and functionality.

I just don't want to spend the money.

It seems every deck released by Legends is a new stock and new finish. Not sure if that's a trendy term to get people to try them or a fact that makes a significant difference from previously produced decks. New is not always better. We will wait and see.

^ i was guessing that the unreleased deck would just be a sharps deck but maybe i'm wrong and it's something even better.

I agree. It's most likely a deck of sharps. A nice incentive.

I have been trying to get my hands on a few, if they ever become available more then one at a time. Keeping my fingers crossed that will happen one day.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Gunshy1 on September 25, 2014, 12:33:40 AM
Anyone else notice the change in the deck box?
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: PrincessTrouble on September 25, 2014, 02:38:54 PM
^ i was guessing that the unreleased deck would just be a sharps deck but maybe i'm wrong and it's something even better.

Maybe Zen?
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Fess on September 25, 2014, 04:05:52 PM
^ i was guessing that the unreleased deck would just be a sharps deck but maybe i'm wrong and it's something even better.

Maybe Zen?

Yea the Zen are certainly possible. I'm inclined to believe it will be a new deck, not an older deck they just never turned loose. Zen's do make sense. Then again, it may be that they're kicking out a third color Serpentine, or a sharps deck, or something no ones even heard of.

I'm excited to find out.  :D
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Don Boyer on September 25, 2014, 04:46:59 PM
^ i was guessing that the unreleased deck would just be a sharps deck but maybe i'm wrong and it's something even better.

Maybe Zen?

Yea the Zen are certainly possible. I'm inclined to believe it will be a new deck, not an older deck they just never turned loose. Zen's do make sense. Then again, it may be that they're kicking out a third color Serpentine, or a sharps deck, or something no ones even heard of.

I'm excited to find out.  :D

It's not likely to be the original Zen or Zen Pure.  There weren't many made and they were only prototypes.  Not IMPOSSIBLE, mind you, just not likely.  This also means it wouldn't be the newer Zens since they're being released.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Nurul on September 25, 2014, 05:11:49 PM
I don't think it's zen or sharps. Lawrence mentioned in an email that the deck is a newer deck where the paper is softer than what they've printed in the past. Also that the deck has a new joker and some great metallic inks.
Im pretty sure it won't be sharps as I'm pretty sure these will be made available soon. You can still get a prototype zen with a brick of NOCs, so I don't think it's them.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: HolyJJ on September 25, 2014, 05:27:59 PM
I don't expect it to be the Zen deck either... purely because Zen is an EPCC deck, and not an LPCC deck. Both companies may indeed use the same Taiwan factory, and they do collaborate often... but they are not the same thing.

Like others here, I don't think it'll be Sharps either... because whilst the Sharps stock was 'new' at one point, LPCC have been offering the "classic finish" for a few months now.

I'm guessing it'll be something that is either totally unknown to collectors, or maybe the Bund 18 deck -- I've not seen that being sold anywhere (so far).
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Don Boyer on September 25, 2014, 05:36:02 PM
Bund 18?  Why does that sound familiar?
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: DarkDerp on September 25, 2014, 07:49:15 PM
I'm saving up my pennies now, in hopes  of a Day of the Dead Cthulha Skulls, Calendar Deck
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: DarkDerp on September 25, 2014, 07:52:06 PM
Bund 18?  Why does that sound familiar?

Was that a hint?
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: sprouts1115 on September 25, 2014, 08:23:21 PM
Finish?  Looks like 2 types of finish...
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: HolyJJ on September 26, 2014, 06:23:32 AM
The 20 deck deal with the free rare deck at LPCC's website is now sold out.

So, out of the total of 2000 that were printed, a fifth are gone from that deal alone. Depending on reviews regarding the quality of the new emerald finish, there's a chance that the remainder won't last too long either.

Shipping from LPCC is about as fast as it gets -- each time i've ordered, the package has arrived at my place in less than a week. I'm really looking forward to giving these decks a serious workout next week!

Has anyone else over here snapped up the 20 deck deal? It was basically less than $5 per deck, and then by adding just one more random deck (like a Smith No 3 for just over $5) there was free worldwide shipping. I didn't think twice about placing my order! :D
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: doubledouble on September 26, 2014, 07:05:26 AM
^ yup, I did. still waiting on a carbon fiber clip from them from my last order lol but yeah the cards usually come really fast.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: HolyJJ on September 26, 2014, 07:12:38 AM
^ Great stuff Doubler! :D

Once I get my paycheck on Tuesday, I'll put in an order for a carbon fiber clip also, because I love the one that I got from EPCC a few months ago -- much better than those horrible Porper clips in pretty much every way possible!

Congrats on being one of the 20. Let's hope the rare deck is totally awesome. If it is a deck of Sharps, i'd still be really pleased because the handling on that is superb!
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Nurul on September 26, 2014, 07:28:43 AM
Bund 18?  Why does that sound familiar?

It's a magic bar in Shanghai. You either know it because of that, or because you've seen images of the deck on the LPCC website.
I assume you can only pick it up at the magic bar. Maybe have to spend x amount and you get the deck? Kind of like what The Rarebit did for T11's Rarebit playing cards.
This is, of course, just an assumption.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: DarkDerp on September 26, 2014, 08:29:23 AM
 
Quote
t's a magic bar in Shanghai. You either know it because of that, or because you've seen images of the deck on the LPCC website.
I assume you can only pick it up at the magic bar. Maybe have to spend x amount and you get the deck? Kind of like what The Rarebit did for T11's Rarebit playing cards.
This is, of course, just an assumption.

A super handsome fellow named me posted about these when they came out. And it was non other than fancy pants Boyer  that found the link to the magic bar. I thought Don was doing the ole *wink wink* *nudge nudge*
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Anthony on September 26, 2014, 12:36:59 PM
Ya I was in at that price point, very curious about the new finish. I really like the past Legend decks, and Lawrence is a real perfectionist on things like this, learned that from Aquila, lol.

I have faith the "Mystery" deck will be something cool  8)
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: PrincessTrouble on September 26, 2014, 02:59:07 PM
And you can have one for only $300!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-DECK-bund-18-playing-cards-Deck-CARC-EPCC-Rare-/171460841233
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Don Boyer on September 26, 2014, 06:30:29 PM
And you can have one for only $300!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-DECK-bund-18-playing-cards-Deck-CARC-EPCC-Rare-/171460841233

Someone fell out of the delusion tree and hit all the branches coming down...
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: HolyJJ on September 27, 2014, 07:38:05 AM
It's great to see that at least 3 of the 20 rare decks will be going to members of PCF family :D

Also glad to see that a fair few of us are genuinely interested in the the handling of the new Emerald Finish.

I'm interested in knowing about things like the thickness of the cards. Whilst V1 Legends were notably thin, the #202 Legends were pretty much the same thickness as the Sharps.

Whilst not all moves to a new factory result in a unanimous verdict about improved handling (eg. When EPCC used the Shanghai printers for Global Titans, the reviews were mixed), I find it difficult (or rather, impossible) to imagine Lawrence making any moves that would result in even a 0.0001% reduction in quality of handling. All 3 series of Legends branded decks have had subtle differences in handling, and each were pretty awesome.

As I've said before, I absolutely love the look of these cards... and so if they handle as brilliantly as I'd like them to, I'll put in an order for another brick or two, because it'll probably be a while before another deck this new Emerald Finish is released.

With regards to the rare deck... if it is the Bund 18 deck, then the buyers will receive one of two colours (red or blue). Even that deck has a classic looking back design... and so I like the look of that one very much also!

Chances are that a lot of resellers will have picked up the 20 deck deal, purely to see if they can make a few bucks off the rare deck... Heck, depending on what it is, they may end up being able to make back the price of the 20 deck deal from that one deck alone!

Oh well, we'll find out for sure next week what the rare unreleased deck is!
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Nurul on September 27, 2014, 07:47:04 AM
Make that 4 out of 20.
I was going to be crazy and get 2 x 20 deck deals but figured im getting ahead of myself. Wanted to do it because I wanted to open it to test and keep one sealed.
However, according to Mr Sullivan, he stated "the limited deck actually comes with no seal or cellophane, that was how they were produced for a special event"
And no, not the microsoft deck ....
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: HolyJJ on September 27, 2014, 08:30:46 AM
Thanks for that excellent peice of info Narul... and congrats on snapping up the 20 deck deal! +1 for you brother :D

As far as I'm aware, the DB microsoft event deck was produced by EPCC, and not LPCC... and so it wouldn't have been that one anyway. As it is, that deck had both cellophane and a DB seal anyway, and so the info you provided categorically ruled it out.

Furthermore, the new info rules out the Sharps, because that deck comes in cellophane, has a Legends seal, and was not produced for a specific event.

Also... it rules out the Bund 18 deck. Whilst the Bund 18 deck could potentially have been made for an event at the venue, and nobody so far has confirmed whether it comes in cellophane or not, the deck does have a seal.

... and so there's a chance that the rare deck is going to be one that nobody has seen before. I think that's pretty cool! :D
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Nurul on September 27, 2014, 09:16:58 AM
Ha, yeah I know not the Microsoft deck. Only said it cos that's the most recent deck that was used at an event :p
I wonder if it's any of these decks ...

1st image is captioned "new joker". Lawrence mentioned there's a new joker in this rare deck that's being sent out.
2nd image was put as a "name the deck and win it" competition. "Tatler Playing Cards" was the winning title.
I think images 1 & 2 are linked.
Images 3 & 4 is of Tenbre Rosso. These are being put out, I believe, by 4PM Designs. Possibly these?! Not too sure.

EDIT: can't be images 3 & 4 as these were a kickstarter project. How I missed that, I have no idea  :o deleted images
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Card Player on September 27, 2014, 10:08:02 AM
Ha, yeah I know not the Microsoft deck. Only said it cos that's the most recent deck that was used at an event :p
I wonder if it's any of these decks ...

1st image is captioned "new joker". Lawrence mentioned there's a new joker in this rare deck that's being sent out.
2nd image was put as a "name the deck and win it" competition. "Tatler Playing Cards" was the winning title.
I think images 1 & 2 are linked.
Images 3 & 4 is of Tenbre Rosso. These are being put out, I believe, by 4PM Designs. Possibly these?! Not too sure.

The new joker is a Legends joker. Legends v1, v2 and Egyptian had Dragon jokers. I'm not saying that's the deck your getting. That joker is most likely for a new legends deck. Legends Circus Edition?
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Nurul on September 27, 2014, 10:26:54 AM
IF that new legends joker is connected to that particular deck of cards that it's resting on, then it's too plain for it to be an actual legends edition deck of playing cards. Maybe they just used the joker and slid it into this deck?!
I like the sound of a legends circus deck though :)
I'm pondering too much and it hurts my head :( lol
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: aldazar on September 27, 2014, 10:46:26 AM
Thanks for that excellent peice of info Narul... and congrats on snapping up the 20 deck deal! +1 for you brother :D

As far as I'm aware, the DB microsoft event deck was produced by EPCC, and not LPCC... and so it wouldn't have been that one anyway. As it is, that deck had both cellophane and a DB seal anyway, and so the info you provided categorically ruled it out.

Furthermore, the new info rules out the Sharps, because that deck comes in cellophane, has a Legends seal, and was not produced for a specific event.

Also... it rules out the Bund 18 deck. Whilst the Bund 18 deck could potentially have been made for an event at the venue, and nobody so far has confirmed whether it comes in cellophane or not, the deck does have a seal.

... and so there's a chance that the rare deck is going to be one that nobody has seen before. I think that's pretty cool! :D

I can confirm that it comes wrapped in cellophane as I have one sitting on my desk right now...=P
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Anthony on October 03, 2014, 07:02:45 AM
Well the "Mystery" deck has some amazing metallic inks.........  :o
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Nurul on October 03, 2014, 10:25:21 AM
Soooo shiny  ;D ;D I'm itching to get my hands on these. Mine is leaving HK tomorrow.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: HolyJJ on October 04, 2014, 07:22:07 AM
Thanks Anthony, for that excellent photo of the courts on the 'mystery rare deck'. (+1 again for you brother!) When I received mine, I was gobsmacked by the metalic gold inks... its shine really isn't that far off gold foil.

Nurul, I'm sure you'll love the shine on the rare deck -- I've not seen anything else like it.

I opened a deck of Serpentines on the day I received the package, and I've given it about 6 hours of shuffling so far. As expected, the quality (printing, durability, handling) is far superior to USPCC in all respects.

(Even though USPCC's new cardstock *is* an improvement, in terms of durability it still sucks pretty bad -- the edges on one of the private reserve Madison Rounders decks started getting dents after just 2 hours. These Serpentines are still going strong though.)

The feel of the cards are unique... different to anything else out there. The cards are by far the thinnest that I've ever handled (even thinner than the Erdnase 216s by CARC), and so I did expect them to not last too long... but the European cardstock is surprising durable.

Out of the box I initially find them a little awkward... but them after breaking them in, kind of like the Legends, I found the handling to improve. Now I really do like the feel of the thin, yet snappy cards.

Although the edges look similar to USPCC (in that they don't have the glass-like smoothness of the Legends or Sharps), they faro incredibly well -- in fact, I found them easier to faro than any other deck I've ever used. The thinness of the cards probably has something to do with that.

Personally, I love this deck -- for both the handling and the classic design. I hope LPCC bring out a second edition of Serpentines in the future, or that they bring out more decks with a classic design.

I'm actually going to buy some more of these, just in case they run out!
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: rousselle on October 04, 2014, 02:00:28 PM
I also ordered this deal. I placed the order on Sept 24th. I received a shipping confirmation notice on Sept 29th. I checked just now on the status, and the tracking website is has just left Hong Kong as of today. Why did it take five days to leave Hong Kong? (Five days from the day it was presumably "shipped", but 10 days from placing the order.) Oy.

Not what *I* would call fast shipping, but hey, at least it's on its way to me....
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Nurul on October 05, 2014, 06:41:46 AM
I also ordered this deal. I placed the order on Sept 24th. I received a shipping confirmation notice on Sept 29th. I checked just now on the status, and the tracking website is has just left Hong Kong as of today. Why did it take five days to leave Hong Kong? (Five days from the day it was presumably "shipped", but 10 days from placing the order.) Oy.

Not what *I* would call fast shipping, but hey, at least it's on its way to me....

There's a lot of protests going on over there. Traffic is at a standstill at most points. Mine is the same. I got my confirmation on 29th, package left on the 4th.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Anthony on October 05, 2014, 08:53:20 AM
Just out of curiosity I pulled up my tracking info.........sure enough, left HK on the 4th.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Rose on October 05, 2014, 10:34:32 AM
Oh my, shiny! How awesome, I do love shiny!  ;D
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Justin O. on October 09, 2014, 07:29:53 PM
What is this *mystery* deck, I'm curious to know since they are no longer available.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Firdawesome on October 10, 2014, 01:56:43 AM
What is this *mystery* deck, I'm curious to know since they are no longer available.

It's a Tatler deck.

(http://unitedcardists.com/download/file.php?id=6408&t=1)

(http://unitedcardists.com/download/file.php?id=6250&t=1)
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Justin O. on October 10, 2014, 09:26:00 PM
It's a good looking deck. When Narul posted the image up above I tried to find this deck online, I really like the look of it, now I can see why I didn't have any luck. If anyone has one they would be willing to part with I am more than happy to buy it for a reasonable price or trade.
Title: Re: Serpentine - New deck from LPCC
Post by: Msp062 on October 16, 2014, 11:28:08 PM
Do the serpentine card boxes actually have a slight "green yellow" color on the borders of the box, or is that just in pictures?