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Design & Development / Re: The Frontier Deck
« on: June 11, 2014, 10:40:10 AM »
That's a sharp deck. I like the theme/art-style - it feels like a deck for a hunting lodge/US park gift shop. Well done!

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Yea, the shipping stuff kills me. I've got one more deck I'm working on and it's going to have some odd ordering options so that I can minimize everyones shipping cost. Domestically, there is a big break between 3 and 4 decks. And NO change at all from 4 to 8 decks (flat rate shipping). Internationally, the breaks aren't as clear, but with some investigation, I bet I can find them....

BTW, if any of you out there have ordered the Meeple Deck, and not filled out your survey - you really should. There are like 20 backers who I've tried every way possible to communicate with and I still don't have the info needed to get the their your decks. I'm kind of at a lost for what to do.

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For those who missed the Kickstarter, here is the link to my small on-line store where I'm listing the remainder of my Limited Edition Meeple Decks. 2 or 3 other items on there as well (non-playing card Kickstarter projects I've done with various people).

Thanks again for all the help everyone! It has felt really great hearing all the positive comments and the overall surprise at us "first timers" delivering early.

https://www.shopstarter.com/p/1590934883/meeple-playing-cards-super-limited-edition/

Luke

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Looks like congratulations are in order!

Are there any remaining for you to sell or is the whole print run committed to yourself and your backers?

How did the counter turn out?

Thanks Don!

I've got a number of decks left for sure. The plan all along was to sell the remaining decks at trade shows and as add-ons in future Kickstarter campaigns. After I finish all the Kickstarter shipping, I'll put up a tiny on-line store where folks can order decks and the remaining signed/numbered uncut sheets if they want to.

The counter cards turned out really well. I almost wish I would have dropped the two jokers so I could have put in another pair, but decks need jokers too.

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Design & Development / Re: Tuck case prototype?
« on: May 03, 2014, 10:42:56 AM »
I use Henson as my guide post. If you don't push yourself, you don't get better. When it comes to cost, I've always felt that people will pay for things of quality, but there is also a real beauty in making "the best thing at a certain price point" (if that's your goal).

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Asylum Playing Cards Lawsuit
« on: May 03, 2014, 10:37:37 AM »
This lawsuit is fascinating, and honestly surprising in a lot of ways (it's a state going after the creator, so it can only represent the state's backers, not all backers). I'll be curious where it ends up. Most likely the person they go after will just pay off those few backers to end it. I'd like to see something like this go to court some day. Just because Kickstarter says "creators are legally obligated to fulfill their promise" doesn't close the door on KS's responsibilities. Sort of like when you pay for parking and they say they are "not responsible for stuff stolen from your car" - doesn't mean you can's sue them for having stuff stolen out of your car (you can, and you'll almost always win as the court has ruled that paying for a service implies certain things no matter what sign they post).

As Kickstarter is NOT a bank, there is a reasonable question as to what service they are charging for. A court could easily rule that KS has a responsibility to do a minimum amount of follow-through/screening and if they don't they can be targeted for compensation. I don't think it'll go that way, but it certainly could.

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Quick update. We've received our decks from USPC and they look great!

We are now doing shipping test where I'm sending out a small group of decks to random backers to make sure my shipping options work well (we're more than a month ahead of schedule). A few happy backers have already received their deck and have given them really good reviews. Once these are out, we'll move on to our Binary deck now that we'll have proven to everyone that we will deliver a high quality product in on time.

Thanks again for all your help everyone. These decks wouldn't be as nice without all the feedback we got here.

Luke and Jordan

 

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@ Kristina: That's the jist of it, yes. So the bad news is, if Nintendo orders issues a cease-and-desist, then we'll cancel this project. Good news is, nothing will be charged on your credit card! (but perhaps a deep sadness will ingrain into your heart...)"
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It could go that way OR, they could get the C+D letter AFTER the Kickstarter closes. In which case it would be up to the backers to try to pry their money back - and good luck with that. I would normally never say this about another creators project, but I strongly suggest people don't back this project. Not only is your money at risk, but it's supporting a terrible president.

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Design & Development / Re: The Olympians
« on: March 14, 2014, 09:22:40 AM »
I like how this deck is coming along. Do you have a card back in the works yet? I know the 5-circles is a modern olympic thing, but I just want to throw out that you should avoid it at all costs as there are some very odd laws associated with it (including a special dispensation from congress). Keep up the work, it's coming along great!

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: 'SLICK' Custom Playing Cards (KS)
« on: March 14, 2014, 09:16:56 AM »
The numbered cards with doubled up pips confuses me - The "4" has 8 pips on it. For a deck that seems to skew young, that's probably not a great feature. I do like the back though.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Dia de Los Muertos. (KS)
« on: March 14, 2014, 09:13:52 AM »
Beautiful deck. I've seen this theme done before, but this deck is heads and shoulders over the other entries. Wish I had constructive feedback other than "I love it" but I don't! I really like purple/painted deck too - super original.

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Really? "they would be in their rights to order a C+D, but we HOPE THEY DON'T?!?!?"   Wow. This statement probably opens them up to a whole new level of law suit - as they can't possibly claim ignorance (both the creator AND Kickstarter as now they are knowingly assisting in the selling of an infringing product).

This type of thing hurts Kickstarter and makes me ornery... more than it probably should, but as someone who has worked on officially licensed products for decades and paid all the appropriate royalties, I really hate this type of thing.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: 1 Color Relaunch of Meeples with Early Birds
« on: February 14, 2014, 05:20:38 PM »
FUNDED   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Thanks to everyone who helped make this deck better and those who backed it. We are already close to our first file send to USPCC (just need to secure a UPC code).

If any other creators out there want an inside look at the last few days of the campaign and what I did to spur things at the end, here's a link to my BHAG blog. The last two entries were very Meeple Deck focused.

http://thegeekdynasty.wordpress.com

We've got the Binary deck lined up next, but we want to deliver these before we launch to show folks we get the job done.

Thanks again,
Luke

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: 1 Color Relaunch of Meeples with Early Birds
« on: February 09, 2014, 06:22:17 PM »
Well that's good to know, my apologies.

No apology required man! You hit the nail on the head (this was desperation). I know that my campaign is not normal and takes extra explaining - that job is on me, not other people. Honestly, I like when people post like you did - it gives me a chance to explain myself better and distance myself from less-than-honrable/prepared KS campaigns. I had a backer leave because they didn't think my minimum was high enough and it took a dozen emails to make him feel better about it, but I couldn't be mad as I know folks get burned on KS all the time.

So no apology required, I should be thanking you for the comment. (seriously, it's really helpful!)

Thanks!
Luke

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: 1 Color Relaunch of Meeples with Early Birds
« on: February 09, 2014, 02:59:06 PM »
So you're funding won't even cover expenses and now you are offering free decks? Seems a little bit like desperation to me. Then if you don't have enough money people will not be happy.

I'll start with your comment that "it's complete desperation"... Yup, it totally is. I want it funded and I need a way to do it without putting substantially more money in. "Leave no bullet in the gun" is the motto today.

The decks I'm giving away are essentially "zero cost items" for me at this point. Because of deck printing minimums, I'm going to have lots of decks left over. Giving them away as marketing is really only going to cost me shipping as the printing costs are by definition sunk costs (I have to print them). The only thing I'm losing other than shipping is some future revenue from 30-50 decks that I won't have to sell - which wouldn't impact me until I've sold all the other extra decks.

I know it sounds weird to say this, but I'm still super confident that I'll be able to sell the decks I need to more than break even on this when it's all said and done. I'm already getting gaming stores contacting me for wholesale level purchases, and the convention season is right around the corner. My break even on the project will require me to sell 200-250 decks at retail, or 400-500 decks at wholesale. I expect to hit that number in less than a year, but if it takes 2-3, then fine.

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Design & Development / Re: Analysis of Design :: *Warning - Friggin Long.
« on: February 09, 2014, 01:49:59 PM »
I had the great luck of working as a game designer inside a very well known fantasy artists studio. He put it this way...

There is are you like and art you don't like
There is good art and bad art.
Those two aren't always connected the way you think.

I do think that success is also not connected the way you think. Terrible art has a history of doing well (cough...disco...cough)

But art can be art done for an audience who might have different standards of good/bad. If you get inside that audiences head, figure out what THEY like, and then deliver good art, you have an excellent chance of success (as you have both good art and satisfied what they like).

But it's a bit strong for an audience to assume that what they like defines good - even if that audience is dominant. Especially when it comes to a product that is both art and utility like a playing card.

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Design & Development / Re: Delicious
« on: February 09, 2014, 01:36:37 PM »
Damn those are awesome. I like to try to give some useful critical opinions on decks or at least a helpful point towards useful reference, but I got nuthin' here. This is flippin' awesome. I like it much more than clipped wings already and that deck was great!

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Design & Development / Re: UC 2014 Annual deck
« on: February 09, 2014, 01:33:50 PM »
This deck looks great. I'm surprised (not in a bad way at all) that I don't see a marble texture on the back. I like how you are trying to keep it all stone. I'm sure you have tons of reference, but if you need anymore, be sure to check out some of Europes plague statues. The figure they tend to use as the plague figure fits in well.


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Playing Card Plethora / Re: 1 Color Relaunch of Meeples with Early Birds
« on: February 09, 2014, 12:57:58 PM »
FREE DECKS. That's the last bullet in the gun, and that's what I just fired off. I added a free deck to the 6-deck package and the one that comes with a press sheet and THREE free decks to the brick level purchase.

In the end, I felt like I had to do everything possible, and while I've spent a lot of time and effort in getting the word out, I needed to do something to encourage backers to move up to a higher level. And while this will give me fewer decks to sell after the campaign and I'll soak a tiny amount of extra shipping, that's WAY better than having NO decks to sell after the campaign (and none to ship).

Initial response seems good, so hopefully I'll make the final $350 or so in the next 6 hours. And if I do, those backers are going to (rightly) get an awesome deal.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Dragon Dynasty Bicycle (KS)
« on: February 09, 2014, 12:46:18 PM »
There is some cool in this design. I worked on a fantasy-Samurai property for years (Legend of the Five Rings). On the good side, I like the use of screened color. On the bad side, the yellowed background misses the mark for me. I know the style the designer is going for, but he sort of missed the mark for me.

A nice deck that I'm sure a lot of folks will like, but it makes me want a Legend of the Five Rings deck - that property is super fun and over it's 20 years on the market, they have really learned how to do "Fantasy Japan" well (definitely not historical Japan, but the good stuff is all there and well done.) I have this L5R painting hanging in my office... (you can see how they mixed Japanese and Chinese references here, but in a fantasy setting, it works for me).


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Playing Card Plethora / Re: 1 Color Relaunch of Meeples with Early Birds
« on: February 09, 2014, 10:01:36 AM »
Final Sprint today. Lots of interesting thoughts, but one thing makes me really happy - Jordan and I really did our best to take the concept and implement it at every step, using good ideas no matter where they came from (ego = 0 on this). Make it or not, I'm really proud of the work we did. Jordan even laid out the press sheet so the black cards make a vaguely Meeple shape (as much as you can with a 7x8 grid that is)!

Off to email all the folks who cancelled their pledges and see if I can woo them back...

thanks again everyone!
Luke


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Playing Card Plethora / Final Hours for the Meeples
« on: February 08, 2014, 11:07:01 AM »
The campaign is down to the final 30 hours and we're at 80%. I think we've done just about everything we can do on this one - vinyl stickers, cool score-cards, card reveals, etc... This website has been super helpful and supportive of the effort and we really appreciate the help for a product that is a little askew from what most collectors look for.

One last ask. If you could share our link (http://kck.st/1dDIsxb) with any gamer or playing card oriented friends via email, Twitter (#Meepledeck) or Facebook, we'd really appreciate it. We don't want to leave a single stone unturned and with a good ending surge we might be able to make this happen...

Thanks everyone. Once again, we really appreciate all the help you've offered to date. This is an amazingly supportive and informative community.

Luke and Jordan

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: 1 Color Relaunch of Meeples with Early Birds
« on: February 03, 2014, 12:40:14 PM »
Thanks to some great advice from Don here, we just announced our new "extra" cards. These are point scoring tracking cards that people can use when they play games. They are based on an older deck that Don posted up here, of course done in the style of the deck. We really like these as they are unique and feel right for this deck. I hope you like them too!

This campaign only has 6 days left, and we'd love it if you shared the link with any gaming friends you might have. It's going to be really really close and we could use the help...

Thanks!

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: What brings long term value?
« on: January 28, 2014, 09:59:57 AM »
How about this everyone? You come up with the definitive list of criteria and I will make a deck that hits everything and sell them for $1000 a piece.  :D

What?

Only if it's signed, numbered, limited to 1 deck, and comes in an indestructible packet jacket.. :D

And comes in UV500 card stock with gilded edges, a laser-cut tuck box, fully custom designed pips, indexes, courts....and to top it all off, put it in a AIP bottle.

And the bottle should be at least Magnum sized...

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Meeple Playing Cards
« on: January 27, 2014, 04:54:31 PM »
I forgot - we added an interesting add-on to the Meeple Campaign and I'm curious what you all think. These are vinyl stickers of the royalty that folks can use as those "family stickers" you see on cars. I have a set on my laptop right now, they are pretty slick.

I just didn't think the "coin" thing would work very well, and the designer Jordan can create these at any quantity (a good bit of hand labor, but he enjoys it).

Please excuse the prices and stuff on the image, Jordan made a single image for me to use in the update.




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