wait, there was a playing card film festival? Was it cardistry related or an actual event that playing movies that had playing cards in them?

Anyway, this is kinda cool but unless it is an actual event at a playing card/magic convention or has enough funding and support to be a stand a lone event, it just seems like its a glorified online poll/survey. It is not any secret that Jackson will win Favorite designer or Jason will win Best Bicycle collector or Albino Dragon will win Best Licensing etc...If you look at project numbers and general posts on the forums/facebook about this or that topic, you can pretty much figure out who should win the award.   

I wonder if the copyright/trademark lawyers are going to bite on this considering these monsters are pretty close rip offs of the original Universal monsters. Like direct copies of the Bela Lugosi, Lon Chaney and Boris Karloff characters that Universal owns.

When I created my monster deck I specifically went with generic monsters to avoid the nonsense that happened with The Army Men Deck. Plus I also requested info from Universal on this matter and I was told that the characters from the movies are still protected and owned  by Universal. Going through the process to use the actual monsters in the Universal franchise was going to be a long and expensive process. 

Hopefully they have covered their butts.

Quote from: S. Carey on May 21, 2014, 11:10:39 PM

Design is nice. This whole thing reminds me of that guy Don had a little scuffle with a few weeks back. He named his deck Sophia Rae after his daughter too.

Totally different case - we all commented about how that deck bore too many resemblances to something that Dan and Dave might put out, and he commented about how all the design elements he put in the deck had meaning for him and his daughter, but refused to tell anyone else what that was.  That deck has about 51.5 hours left on the project and is about 75% shy of the goal...  But at least they know what it means, right? 

Anyway, I digress.  This is a nice-looking variant on the KEM Arrows.  The question on everyone's minds I'm sure is: paper or plastic?

I agree they are completely different. Just reminded me of that situation simply bc of how both decks were named.

There aren't enough custom plastic decks. Would be nice to see something like that. 

Yeah this is quite weird.

I do not know about anyone else but I was never exactly a fan of seals anyway. I suppose they look nice if I am not opening them but if I open a deck, the broken seal is just messy.

Yeah I pledged for this bc I never actually had a mpc deck before. The tuck case is actually very nice. Embossing and metallic inks. Definitely impressed there. The cards are not firm and they actually stay slightly bent after shuffling them. Kind of a bummer.   


 

Well.... seems like the forum got the best of him. I do not know many people who drop the F bomb when their project gets criticized. Might be the first for the forum if I am not mistaken.
 

 

Who's their lawyer? Saul Goodman?

Yeah I agree. The only other card that is posted so far is the AoS.

This design style is actually quite nice depending on the logo/symbol used. However, I am seeing more people use this style. I suppose it is a proven success as we have seen Ace Fulton do it, Madison/E do it, Whispering Imps has something coming soon like this and now this. There are probably more modern decks that do this but this is what came to mind as I saw this. 

Also, I do not know the name of this one but it is coming soon on Kickstarter. Paying homage to the Buck twins it seems.   

The majority of the high end brands or boutique brands won't do this. Davidoff seconds, tatatuaje seconds and Ashton seconds are completely unheard of.

Thompson, which is a smaller competitor of the company I work for, strikes large deals to buy this stuff and its usually on their proprietary products or on mass produced stuff. Your average tobacco shop won't be able to purchase seconds. I think only a handful of distributors can carry banded seconds.

Also they are sold with the brand listed but you when you get them they will probably have no cigar band on them or it will have a generic brand band around the cigar. 

Anyway its completely off topic at this point. Sorry guys.

I'll back down. Since I didn't pledge and most people seem not to care about the flaw and how it was handled, I will just stop beating a dead horse. Clearly it was a bummer of a situation but it seems people are getting what they want so all is good. 

You are right though. Refunds on Kickstarter usually don't happen.

He has the v1 error decks on his site listed for $10 (avail. late April). I do not know how much the v1's will go for on ebay when they can just get them off Jackson for $10.

This whole thing kind of baffles me. I realize he offered refunds (at that point no deck will be shipped) but it still comes at the cost of the backer because they aren't going to get what they thought they were getting when they originally pledged. They have to pledge for this new campaign if they want a fully functional deck of cards. And the deck they pledge for in this new campaign is an updated box so its different from the original campaign. I get the response will be if they do not want the error v1, they can ask for a refund and then pledge for this new v2 campaign. Easy enough. But what a hassle for a product that isn't even the original design. Not to mention, if you use the extra cards to fix the original, then you have a v2 Moriarty deck with only 54 cards without a v2 sherlock deck counterpart. So a complete set of the Sherlock series has an extra Moriarty.     

This also coming from a company who has been all about quality and ridding the market of crap. I do not understand why he would want this product on the market with errors. Sure it looks great but it has functional errors. Paul from Encarded reprinted his last project at zero cost to the backer (except for time) when DECO was not at the quality that he wanted it. Backers waited some extra time and got the cards they originally thought they were getting free of any errors. Then Paul sold the errors on his site like Jackson is planning to do with his errors.

I canceled my pledge for this project because it was around Christmas time and I wanted to save. I am not personally impacted by all this so this is just an observational opinion. However, if I were in this position, I would wait for a reprint of the original design and prefer not to deal with a new design/v2/new project/refund.