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We are back and we are LIVE - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jokerandthethief/dystopia-playing-cards/description
Get your $10 Early Bird Specials Now!

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Joker and Thief: White Gold Edition
« on: September 02, 2016, 12:05:26 AM »
Hi everyone!

Our new White Gold Edition Playing Cards are now available on Amazon for those of you in the USA! - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KC3QOH2

We will be releasing a small batch on our website shortly for all of you guys overseas who are still looking to get some.

Thank you to everyone who supported the Kickstarter campaign! Stay on the look out for an all new project coming this Fall.

Cheers,
Joker and the Thief

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Joker and Thief: White Gold Edition
« on: March 18, 2016, 08:06:32 PM »
1 Hour until launch! See you there!  :D

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Joker and Thief: White Gold Edition
« on: March 18, 2016, 07:00:10 AM »
Hey guys!

Just a short announcement and a little bit of info about the campaign.
As of this post we are about 14 hours away from launch, and we are so excited!

We are offering 100 early bird decks at $10 each for those who are planning to get in quickly.

For your convenience I've included some times and dates of the launch for locations around the world. So set your alarms! ;)
We can't wait to see you there. We will post the link here on launch!


Los Angeles (U.S.A. - California) Friday, 18 March 2016 at 6:00 PM PDT 

Austin (U.S.A. - Texas) Friday, 18 March 2016 at 8:00 PM CDT

New York (U.S.A. - New York) Friday, 18 March 2016 at 9:00 PM EDT

Brisbane (Australia - QLD) Saturday, 19 March 2016 at 11:00 AM AEST

Sydney (Australia - NSW) Saturday, 19 March 2016 at 12:00 Noon

London (United Kingdom) Saturday, 19 March 2016 at 1:00 AM GMT 

Paris (France) Saturday, 19 March 2016 at 2:00 AM CET

Barcelona (Spain) Saturday, 19 March 2016 at 2:00 AM

Tokyo (Japan) Saturday, 19 March 2016 at 10:00 AM JST

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck [KS]
« on: November 18, 2015, 10:59:23 PM »
Hi guys, just a quick announcement. Joker and the Thief Playing Cards are now available on Amazon.com!

Head over to Amazon.com now and search for "Joker and the Thief Playing Cards". Make sure to pick yours up fast as stocks are extremely limited!

Never to be reprinted again, this is your last opportunity to stock up. Alternatively, with the holiday season coming up, Joker and the Thief Playing Cards make excellent stocking stuffers, and are an excellent gift idea! If your could, please leave a review guys.

There are some updates coming soon in regards to the all new Dystopia Playing Cards! I can't wait to show you what's in store!

Cheers,
James

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Red Saturns - KS Live
« on: November 17, 2015, 03:52:08 AM »

A lot of Cardists prefect USPC. I will never understand why.


Hi Jay,

Just thought I'd pitch in. As a cardist myself I thought I'd explain.

Here's why cardists prefer American made cards. They feel far more papery. In general, they feel nicer to use. They break in easily, and hold up nicely depending on the deck. Although they're not as durable as an EPCC product, they are far easier to break in and handle. I will defend that every deck has its own unique handling, and that yes, a lot will feel similar. This comes down to humidity in the factory, compression of the stock, the type of paper used, the finish remains the same, but the saturation of ink in a card can make or break the feel. The presence of metallic inks and the amount of ink coverage on a deck does effect the feel. For example, Ellusionist's Absinthe in comparison to Dan and Dave's Antlers. The latter handles FAR better. It is complete ink coverage vs sparser ink coverage. How the edges are cut can change the feel also. It may seem subtle, but it is there and we can feel it. EPCC decks are different, especially decks with master finish. They tend to feel slightly plastic. But the new classic finish holds its own. While USPCC can be inconsistent, when it produces a fantastic deck like the Vintage Paid (which is perhaps one of the best handling decks ever) it is the feel that cardists always prefer.

Not to say that other manufacturers produce poor quality products, Expert and Legends produce fantastic products, but the USPCC is just preferred because of how they feel.

Cheers,
James

James, thanks for your insight.  It is interesting that you say that cardists prefer USPC, especially with you being a cardist, yet with your own deck of cards, you went with EPCC as the printer.  Don't get me wrong as I absolutely love your cards and actually am glad that you went with EPCC over USPC, it is just an interesting comment.

As for the Red Saturns, I am in for a pair (one for me and one for a friend), as I am curious to see the differences between the two Saturn decks.  Overall though, there is definitely nothing exciting about this deck and I am surprised that it was so quickly funded compared to some of the other decks out their (i.e. Contours)...I think part of it is from the hype of the currently high price of the original Saturns online and people are buying in bulk in hopes of cashing in later...hope that is not the case, but it certainly seems so :-\

Thank you! As a first project, the Joker and the Thief Playing Cards had to be a top quality product, which I'm pleased to say that I think that is the case. As a new playing card producer on the scene we didn't want a product that handled poorly. Essentially it came down to uncertainty, and we didn't want a deck that handled like Blue Fontaines or Icons. Fortunately for us, EPCC just happens to produce playing cards that are very consistent in their quality, and handle well. That seemed like the best option at the time - consistency and guaranteed quality. As for the projects currently in the works, where we will manufacture new decks will be announced in time.

In regards to the Saturns, it is a definitively contemporary deck for Cardists and is one of the reasons that Franky went with USPCC. Plus, being close to the factory, he has been allowed to monitor quality. So I am expecting a top notch, well handling product. As his friend too, Franky explained that this colour is a very unique red. It's been thought out and isn't a slap on Fontaine Red. He is very specific and certainly has an eye for colour, being an art student of course. Saturn's are all about interesting colours, and the red should stand next to the blues in an equally impressive fashion.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Red Saturns - KS Live
« on: November 16, 2015, 07:28:31 AM »

A lot of Cardists prefect USPC. I will never understand why.


Hi Jay,

Just thought I'd pitch in. As a cardist myself I thought I'd explain.

Here's why cardists prefer American made cards. They feel far more papery. In general, they feel nicer to use. They break in easily, and hold up nicely depending on the deck. Although they're not as durable as an EPCC product, they are far easier to break in and handle. I will defend that every deck has its own unique handling, and that yes, a lot will feel similar. This comes down to humidity in the factory, compression of the stock, the type of paper used, the finish remains the same, but the saturation of ink in a card can make or break the feel. The presence of metallic inks and the amount of ink coverage on a deck does effect the feel. For example, Ellusionist's Absinthe in comparison to Dan and Dave's Antlers. The latter handles FAR better. It is complete ink coverage vs sparser ink coverage. How the edges are cut can change the feel also. It may seem subtle, but it is there and we can feel it. EPCC decks are different, especially decks with master finish. They tend to feel slightly plastic. But the new classic finish holds its own. While USPCC can be inconsistent, when it produces a fantastic deck like the Vintage Paid (which is perhaps one of the best handling decks ever) it is the feel that cardists always prefer.

Not to say that other manufacturers produce poor quality products, Expert and Legends produce fantastic products, but the USPCC is just preferred because of how they feel.

Cheers,
James

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck [KS]
« on: April 14, 2015, 08:20:23 PM »
 :D :D :D

100% funded everyone! This is awesome. Thanks so much for your support!

If you haven't pledged for yours yet, now's the time - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jokerandthethief/joker-and-the-thief-playing-cards

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck [KS]
« on: April 13, 2015, 05:03:19 AM »
Thanks for your comments all! Feedback taken on board.

We only have 6 days left guys! And man, we're extremely close to being funded. So let's do it all - time is limited!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jokerandthethief/joker-and-the-thief-playing-cards

 :)

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck [KS]
« on: March 24, 2015, 05:35:27 PM »
There's a number of odd elements to this deck.  A Jack carrying a torch?  TWO suicide Kings?

But so what?

This isn't a traditional "I wanna play cards" deck.  This is a "just stands out enough without being distracting, makes my moves look cool" cardistry deck.  Not good as a poker deck, but who cares?  There's a metric f**kton of good or good-enough poker decks out there.  Same thing applies for magic - and besides, what magician would want to use a fancy, expensive (compared to common Bikes), limited-edition deck in a street performance, without any matching gaff cards or gaff decks of any kind?  Aside from what the Virts and De'vo/Handlordz are producing, there's almost nothing for cardistry.

Hi Don, thanks a bunch man. We realise that they're different and that's what we wanted them to be, we're glad you recognise that and appreciate it. Cheers

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck- (3/20/15 KS)
« on: March 20, 2015, 10:00:09 PM »
We're LIVE on KICKSTARTER! Here's the link - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jokerandthethief/joker-and-the-thief-playing-cards

Thank you for your support! Go and get yourselves some shiny new cards :D

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck- (3/20/15 KS)
« on: March 20, 2015, 09:00:47 PM »
We go live in one hour guys! Thanks for all of your support so far!

I'll provide you with a link as soon as the deck goes live.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck- (3/20/15 KS)
« on: March 20, 2015, 05:21:46 AM »
So how long now before it starts the kickstarter campaign

As of now, 16 hours and 30 minutes :)

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck- (3/20/15 KS)
« on: March 19, 2015, 05:33:15 PM »
Hello all!

I hope you're all doing well. We are launching very soon so i thought I'd post a few more photos here and give you a little insight into our EB Special!

For our Early Birds, 200 Individual decks of cards will be available for $10USD each.

Since we are from Australia, the campaign will be in AUD, just to keep that in mind. For your convenience we've put the converted prices in USD in the pledge options, just so you know what you're paying :)

Here are some more photos!

https://instagram.com/p/0YegYFGZ7V/?tak ... mesmilaras (COURT CARDS)
https://instagram.com/p/0bFP6sGZ1Z/?tak ... mesmilaras (BOX: SEAL)
https://instagram.com/p/0V61dlmZ1X/?tak ... mesmilaras (IN ACTION - SYBIL)
https://instagram.com/p/0Sb87GGZ39/?tak ... mesmilaras (IN ACTION - FRIFFLE)
https://instagram.com/p/0QzvKImZ7A/?tak ... mesmilaras (IN ACTION)

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck- (3/20/15 KS)
« on: March 14, 2015, 09:22:11 PM »
UPDATE

Joker and the Thief Playing cards launch on Kickstarter - Friday March 20, 7PM, PST.

Stay tuned. More photos to come!

Thanks a lot guys.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck- (3/20/15 KS)
« on: March 07, 2015, 12:03:00 AM »
I've been enjoying my Classic Twins since I opened them - very good stock, just the right amount of give and a good finish and coating.  If you're deck will be made in the same manner, I'll have to get a closer look!

We are fans of it too. Expert Playing Card company has consistently produced quality products, and that's what we aim to produce - the highest quality product.

In the end of the day can be a very nice deck. I hope all court cards will be different.

Good news! Every single court card has been designed from the ground up. They're all different :)

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck- coming soon
« on: March 01, 2015, 08:12:12 AM »
Hi guys!

Today, we announce a project that we have been busy working on for the last 6 months.
On MARCH 20 we go live on Kickstarter!

We are proud to announce Joker and the Thief Playing Cards - Our debut deck of playing cards.

We present to you, a new, unique deck of cards that has deliberately strayed from the simplistic design trend. With companies such as Dan and Dave & Theory11 as our inspiration, we wanted to bring something new to the table.

Our design is completely illustrated from the ground up. The back, the fonts, pips, the queens, jacks, kings, jokers - Everything is completely new. The tuck box is tricked out, with amazing foil coverage, embossing, a printed interior, and a custom seal.

Not only have we tried to apply as many bells and whistles that we deemed suitable, the design also tells a story throughout the entire deck. This will be revealed further when the Kickstarter goes live on MARCH 20.

The design depicts various symbolic images that tie into larger metaphors - metaphors of life, mortality, thievery, lies, deceit, power, struggle, hurt, love. This connotation evokes this great sense of volume and depth.

On top of all this, we aim to print with the superb Expert playing Card Company, utilising their all new, and improved classic stock and finish. The very same stock and finish that was used on the fantastic Classic Gold, and Twins decks. And the same stock and finish that will be adorning, Franky Morales’ brand new Saturn Playing Cards.

All orders will be fulfilled by Art of Play, the amazing card company that takes care of orders from companies like Fontaine Cards. They are the same people who we have been making reviews with for the past year.

We are extremely excited to finally be seeing this project come together. We cannot wait to see these in your hands. We will be posting updates towards the 20th, so when that Kickstarter goes live, make sure to pick up a few.
Cheers,

James
Joker and the Thief


Here are some pics for you!

https://instagram.com/p/zr2_jvmZ7j/?modal=true
https://instagram.com/p/zrU9OpmZ_m/?modal=true

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck- coming soon
« on: February 13, 2015, 08:16:04 PM »
Here's a little something for you.

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Joker and the Thief Deck- coming soon
« on: February 13, 2015, 06:23:19 PM »
Hello everyone,

It's been a while since I've posted here. I'm so glad our creation is generating discussion! Especially the back design.
As Don pointed out, we are cardists. Typically we are against one way backs, but we've broken our own rule with this. We've aimed to make this a point of difference and also to ensure that it isn't a visual annoyance when we are flourishing, so the back we've found is somewhat reversible.

We're announcing all the details about this project on the First of March. In saying this, this is a completely custom deck of playing cards. So you can expect custom court cards, jokers, face cards, pips, all packaged within a tricked out box.

We'll be posting more photos very soon. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

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Deck Reviews! / Bee Watermelon (RJRTC) Deck Review - J&T [VID]
« on: February 01, 2014, 12:18:44 AM »
This week we review the Bee Watermelons! They're quite impressive to say the least. Check it out! - http://youtu.be/6ebYhpnipHo

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Deck Reviews! / Aristocrat 727 Banknote Deck Review - J&T [VID]
« on: February 01, 2014, 12:16:25 AM »
Last week we released a review on the reprinted deck of 727 Aristocrats. It was a slightly rushed job and the cardistry wasn't at its best but still we hope you enjoy our review on this deck! http://youtu.be/48BnyF9eYfw

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Flamingo Playing Cards (KS)
« on: January 22, 2014, 06:21:57 AM »
2.  "cambric" finish....?  I hope it's not like the "cambric" finish on Ace Fulton's Casino deck.....   <shudder>

What's wrong with the Fulton casino in cambric? The cards seem all right to me.

They apparently had some serious handling problems due to the finish. It wore down and clumped far too quickly from what I heard. On top of that it was a thick deck. That combo would make me shudder as well. I believe the problem has been resolved in the new editions.

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