8.PM EST！ Soon！

Quote from: Aloys on November 28, 2012, 12:02:22 PM

Floral deck will be finished tomorrow.
Our FLORAL Deck is about to be completed, the website will open at next week.
Thanks for your support aloys design studio .
Aloys

Hello  every one
Merry Christmas! ！

Hello Everyone
Once again, thanks for you support Aloys design studio.
Now ,Our website is open.
Please check our website： http://www.aloysstudio.com/

Thank you
Aloys！

I think the deck looks really nice. I'd like to order a few. I went to the website & have entered my email address but I can't actually gain access to the purchasing page or any other page for that matter.
Has anyone purchased any if these yet? Am I missing something?
A friend got me the bluetunes so I havent purchased directly from aloys. Is this why I can't buy em?
Thanks

Hello Sir
Thank you for your support Aloys.
Floral Deck still has not been released .
You will received email soon..Get our latest news ...
This is new photo,,floral deck and floral clips..Hope you love!

Could be that I missed it, but is there a website?
Where can I have a better look at them, and buy them?

Our website ：http://aloysstudio.com/
Thanks you love this deck, 
Aloys!

Floral Deck- This is the next deck from Aloys, the maker of the Blue Tune deck!
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Release Date: Late November or Early December
Where: Unknown
-2500 Red decks Printed and 500 Black decks printed

Floral Deck has the following features：
*100% custom artwork
* Bicycle stock and Linoid Finish
* Metallic Ink on the Tuck Box, Back Design and Face Cards
* Custom tuck seal

New Photos,
Thanks!

Floral deck will be finished tomorrow.
Our FLORAL Deck is about to be completed, the website will open at next week.
Thanks for your support aloys design studio .
Aloys

I announce with a great honor that I received the notice today. USPCC has accomplished printing of all Floral Decks.
This is a type of incredible decks with very sophisticated design. USPCC spent three and a half months in completing the
production. Besides, the Seal is customized and they are printed with metallic printing ink.
Floral Deck has two colors. There are only 583 black decks produced. USPCC will ship the decks into our warehouse today.
Please pay close attention...
to our Facebook. We will hold competitions where you will have the opportunity to gain Floral Deck for free (Free Shipping). We will provide 12 black Floral Deck for free as the prize.
In addition, we also have produced 80 Floral ECO clips which will be added to your order form for free.
Please keep an eye on our Facebook and e-mail update for more information , thanks for your support aloys design studio.
We will be better for service, have any questions can send email contact to us, our staff will reply within 24 hours.
EMAIL : jessica93471@yahoo.com.my

Aloys Design Studio

Quote from: sr15 on November 13, 2012, 01:55:16 AM

Quote from: Don Boyer on November 13, 2012, 12:29:39 AM

Sr15, it's entirely possible that this deck was being designed for a magician who wanted to reserve most of the black ones for his personal use.  And even if that isn't the case, there's still just 101 decks going into circulation.  If more get released, no biggie - the market value will go down because they're not as hard to obtain as they once were.

I suppose that could be possible, but I don't think it would be the case in this scenario. I agree on the second point, although the only reason I could possibly see to hold out on decks in this scenario would be to have the price as high as possible for each release. Not exactly a bad business model, although it might piss off some people who got the decks early only to see the price and rarity dropped later. Just to clarify, I made that post when I thought the entire run of this deck would be 101 decks out of 500 due to the original wording of the OP, not just a special edition of the deck being 101/500.

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Extreme rarity does not always automatically equal valuable.  A simple example: compare the Bicycle Black Ghost 1st Edition with the Black Crown Deck and the Bicycle Gold Seal New Fan Back.  Each one of these decks were made in a print run of exactly the same size: 5,000.  If you were looking to buy them from a fellow trader, however, the first deck goes for around $100, give or take, the second is perhaps $20 and the last one is still selling at nearly the original retail.

I mean I'm an economics major so you aren't telling me anything that I don't already know. There is obviously a difference between a print run of 5,000 and a print run of 500, especially when there are only 101 being released. Look at the pricing on the special editions of the Aurum deck. It wouldn't be unreasonable to think that Aloys saw the price at which the 75 deck edition of Aurum was selling at and would try to do something similar by releasing only a small number of decks.

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One could argue, based on your perspective, that ALL limited-edition decks are unfair because there's only so many of them to go around.

I never said it was unfair. I just said that a) it's not the best business model, especially when done by companies without a big stock of unlimited run decks like T11 or E, and b) it leaves a bad taste in my mouth because it ends up being a negative for collectors.

Again, keep in mind that I made my original post based on the assumption that the 500 was the entire run of the deck and not just one edition. I still don't necessarily like the idea of severely limiting decks because in general it artificially drives up value, no matter how many anecdotal situations you bring up. Obviously it doesn't drive up the value as much anymore given the trend for everyone and their mother to put out a limited edition deck run these days, but just like a 2,500/5,000 deck run used to have a deck be considered rare, companies may decide to limit deck runs to an even greater degree to spark that "rare" appeal for collectors. I used the example of the Aurum deck earlier, although that was more from a manufacturing circumstance than any deliberate action taken by Encarded, but it is entirely possible and even likely that we see deck runs become more and more limited as numbers that used to be considered rare become common or even an industry standard. As I said, I only see this as being a negative for deck collectors as a whole.

Just consider what I wrote as playing devil's advocate.

As an econ major, you also know that the market will only bear so much of that type of behavior before it starts to react negatively.  Short supply/high demand only works up to the point that the consumer population doesn't get frustrated enough to stop purchasing from one supplier and seek products from other suppliers, especially when it's a luxury item in the first place.  If I tried to by a Porsche but kept missing out on the new models due to them being limited editions that rapidly sell out, I'd bet that some of the less-rare Ferraris or BMWs would start to look awfully attractive...

Quote from: Aloys on November 13, 2012, 03:07:03 AM

In order to make the feel better, I use the Bicycle Stock and LINOID FINISH and metal ink ！
I hope you can like this deck, yolanda elaborate design.
Thank you
Aloys！

Quote from: John B. on November 13, 2012, 03:16:45 AM

Ok a couple things, one please stop posting like 5 times in a row. Put it all in one. It starts to seem very spammy. Also I am calling bull shit on LINOID finish. As Don has mentioned many times the 2 finishes are air cushion and magic finish. You can have them put whatever name on it but those are the 2.

Aloys, John raises a valid point - it's against forum rules to make multiple posts in a row as you have done.  Please, for the future, make a single post, adding edits to it if you want to post something else before someone replies, unless your post is several hours old at the time.

John, even if this was a deck with Linoid Finish - which no longer exists - it would handle like crap with the metallic inks, just like many of the early Diavoli decks.  The default finish for any custom deck now is Magic Finish - the standard finish has to be requested.  Further, it's practically a given that any deck using metallic inks these days uses Magic Finish to counteract the impact of the inks on the cards' performance.

But having said all of that, USPC does allow quite a lot of wiggle room in terms of what someone calls their finish on their deck - even they don't publicly admit that there's only the two finishes to choose from.  They still use terms like Linoid, Air Cushion and Cambric to refer to a deck with embossed paper and a standard finish, and Smooth and Ivory to refer to a deck without embossing and a standard finish.  To further muddy the waters, they have allowed on numerous occasions the use of these standard names on a deck with Magic Finish.

In the end, it's all marketing and "name-calling"!  The differing finish names allows for their brands to be thought of as more distinct from each other than they actually are, and some people will psychologically buy into this, especially when each deck handles just a little differently for reasons having nothing at all to do with finish.  They feel no good reason exists for not allowing their clients to do the same thing on their custom orders.

I am sorry for the violation of forum rules, please forgive.
Aloys

I'm sorry ，I can't print too much Black Deck.
I hope everyone can also like red deck, it also is very beautiful!
Red deck will be a lower price, a small amount of sales.
Red deck would complete the print in December.
If you have any questions, please send email tell me.
Thank you
Aloys！

Quote from: CBJ on November 12, 2012, 05:57:45 PM

There are 3000 decks total... 2500 red.. and 500 black.

here's the post I made on FB

"My friends over at Aloys Design Studio will soon be releasing their second deck design… The Floral Decks. These decks will come in 2 colors with a total of 2500 red decks printed, and only 500 black decks. Only 101 Black decks will be released for sale (limited to 2 per person)
 
 The Floral Decks will have the following features:
 *100% custom artwork ( more than 1800 hours spent on the design )
 *Bicycle stock & Linoid Finish
 *Metallic ink on Tuckbox, backs, and faces
 *Thick tuck paper
 *Custom deck seal
 
 They will also be releasing some Eco Floral Card Clips ( 80 total )
 
 They’ll be launching their website next week with more info. If you’d like to order the Black Flower deck, you’ll be able to shoot them an e-mail through their site to make a request.
 
 If you have any questions, you can send an e-mail to their staff. ( they will reply within 24 hours ) jessica93471@yahoo.com.my

ah that makes much more sense. well hopefully I can get at least 1 of the black decks if it's not priced too high. definitely looking forward to this deck

Thank you for your support, please rest assured,  Not expensive.
Black Flowar Deck ：$11.95 / Deck
A total of 101 decks will released , ( A limit 2 deck for each order)
If you buy blue tune deck in 7/13/2012  you will get a Eco Floral Card Clips for you order! FREE!
Thank you for your support!
Aloys!

I will begin to White tune design, in this month.
Thank you
Aloys！

Quote from: Aloys on July 16, 2012, 09:08:26 AM

I will hold  BlueTune Trailer Contest.【The deadline on October 1】
The winner will get （12 BlueTuneDeck，12 white test Deck，1 BlueTune UNCUT ，1 White Deck UNCUT）
We look forward to you participation in activities.
Thank you
Aloys!

Is it a Facebook contest?

In youtube！
Thank you
Aloys！

The link doesn't work for me.

Sold OUT, thank you all!
Aloys!

BlueTune Deck will be released after 12 hours.

I will hold a video contest in July 15,

The winner will get (12 Blue Tune Deck, 12 White test Deck,1 White tune UNCUT . 1 BlueTune UNCUT)
Thank you
Aloys!