Hi there everyone,

It's been a while since I last logged on to here, and I'm here for one last dig as I say goodbye to the world of card collecting. I'm trying to get rid of most of my collection. I do have an eBay page http://www.ebay.com.au/usr/agera94 and have received 36 positive feedback for sales. Decks that are not currently for auction are open for anyone to purchase. For sale I have the following:

Dan and Dave
1 x Ace Fultons Midnight Casino Black - $50 USD
1 x Dan and Dave Smoke and Mirror V2 special edition set - $190 USD
1 x Dan and Dave Smoke and Mirror V3 luxury edition set - $115 USD

Misc
1 x Jerry's Nugget Red sealed - $450 USD
1 x Jerry's Nugget Blue sealed - $450 USD
3 x Red Bee Quality 1902 - $27 USD each
2 x Eric Mana Sybil Gold and Platinum reserve set w/ box - $60 USD each
1 x Lee McKenzie Empire Red - $60 USD
2 x Red Wynn - $65 USD each

Theory 11
1 x Bicycle White Centurion by Theory 11 - $570 USD
6 x Black JAQK by Theory 11 - $15 USD each
2 x Red JAQK by Theory 11 - $40 USD each
2 x Brown Wynn by Theory 11 - $55 USD each

Ellusionist
1 x Red Artifice by Ellusionist - $60 USD
1 x Gold Artifice by Ellusionist - $25 USD
2 x Black Ghost 1st edition by Ellusionist - $85 USD each
1 x Gold Arcane by Ellusionist - $150 USD (slight tear in wrapper, will provide photos upon request)
1 x Daniel Madison Scarlet Rounders - $75 USD
1 x Daniel Madison Blue Rounders - $60 USD

David Blaine
1 x David Blaine signed Red + Black Gatorback set w/ box - $150 USD
1 x David Blaine Green Gatorback - $35 USD
3 x Red Tally Ho Split Spades by David Blaine - $55 USD each
2 x David Blaine Split Spades (1 x Red/1 x Black) - $40 USD each

Shipping is from Australia and will have tracking + signature on delivery. All decks come wrapped in bubble wrap and shipped off in a sturdy box. So far I have not been let down by this form of mail 

• International is $13 USD for 1 deck + $3 USD for each additional deck.
• Domestic shipping is $6 USD + 2 USD for each additional deck

I will add to the list as I figure out what else I can sell. I have plenty more decks to sift through.

Kind regards

Card Player, I was also thinking earlier that someone may have bought a VERY large quantity for resale. I almost never miss out on cards because I'm right there the second that they are released. I truly wonder if he just sold all 1,000, or if he's toying with several releases that will total the claimed 1,000 to sell on the website?

1000 sold out in around 3-5 minutes does seem a bit odd, especially at the asking price. Will be very interested to see the resale price on eBay soon 

Quote from: John B. on November 20, 2014, 02:57:05 AM

I could see this working well for a close up magician. You could even levitate them afterwards. Not for me though.

You ever see a magician who's so high-energy and funny in his or her routine that they seem practically manic, like a stand-up comic after a few too many coffees?  That's the kind of magician this is best suited for - or simply if you want to inject a little more adrenaline into your routine kick-off.

I might get it for performing at the hospital.  I usually start off with a trick that seems corny but surprises the hell out of people at the prestige.  It grabs people by the shock of having their low expectations blown out of the water - but maybe something like this would be more of a kick as an opener.

I absolutely think this trick would be ideal for what you do. The one thing that really shocks people is they often expect a magician to go by the old adage to pull something from somewhere, whether it be a rabbit from a hat, cloth from your arm, cards from thin air, but this just takes that aspect and tips it on its head. It's sudden, it's flashy, it's direct, and it's great.

Picked up a boxed set and the $40 set too I was a bit taken back by the production run being fairly limited, but at the same time I can appreciate that a lot of work must have gone into these. Probably explains why they were pumping out DM decks so much; their creative team were all busy making these 

Don, or anyone with thread powers, you're free to lock this whenever you feel the need to. Thanks everyone.

Good news everyone, thanks to the suggestion of Justin O I contacted Zach on instagram and we're currently in the midst of getting things sorted now   

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5th September - all parcels shipped out

One last question... What else did you order with your decks?

Just the decks itself no extras  , he's recently been shipping out card clips too.

Quote from: Don Boyer on November 06, 2014, 12:27:15 AM

He still works at Theory11, right?  That's one way to reach him...

Quote from: Card Player on November 05, 2014, 08:31:55 PM

I don't understand why you waited so long to inquire? 2-3 months ago? It's more like 5-6 months ago these were shipped! The decks and his profit are most likely long gone by now. How long do you expect the creator to hold on to their profit before someone says, hey wait a second, I never got mine? It sounds like your out of luck and Zach does not want to deal with this mess.

Um, it's Zach's mess!  He's responsible for making sure his backers get their stuff.  Nearly every deck company (and any smart crowdfunding project creator) will hold back a number of cards, not just for his personal use but to fix problems like this.  If he was out of them in a year or two after, I might understand, but that's not the case.  Even if he was out of decks, he could refund the money.  He's legally obligated to do so, used profits or not - within whatever the applicable statute of limitations would be.

Zach was let go by theory11.

Sarcasm... I guess we expect a project creator to hold on to stuff for years, just in case. They can't sell retail for years either, in case they end up selling the rest of their decks because someone waited 5 months to inquire.  I don't know if he's even an official business entity, is he? I suppose this is the nature of the deck funding beast?

I believe you missed my original response to your original query. I didn't wait 5 months to enquire, I waited a reasonable amount of time from when the last of his orders were said to be shipping, to a reasonable international shipping time. On the 5th of September he was still shipping out the last of his fontaine orders, I'm also an international buyer so generally people will tell you to wait a month or two. I've been trying to contact him since early October as well but each has fallen on deaf ears.

To further elaborate, he has a legally binding obligation to fulfil his end of the contract, and if he can't then a refund is required. I'm not asking for my brick that I ordered if he's indeed out of stock, but if this is the case then a refund would be the right resolution.

Imagine you ordered a car from a manufacturer, and the car would be manufactured, and ready for release in a few months time. You've given your payment in full, and now you play the waiting game. You enquire a few weeks after the release date, and the manufacturer tells you to wait a few more weeks as it is being imported from Germany. Now a few weeks grows into a few months, and the manufacturer won't respond to your messages. You manage to walk into a dealership and confront a receptionist about this, who asks you, "did you really expect us to hold onto stock for this long, sorry we're all out."

Zach is also selling them on his website.

Quote from: agera94 on November 06, 2014, 12:50:22 AM

Don't believe he works at T11 anymore :/ And yes what you say is correct. Even if he has run out of his cards, he is still legally obligated to fulfil his end of the contract and if not a refund would be met with welcome arms. I've attempted to get amazon payments to contact him but they keep telling me the same bad news over and over again.

Ask around at T11 anyway.  They might be able to help you.  Meanwhile, I tried to reach him on his webpage - we'll see if he drops by here to explain the situation.

Thanks Don! I tried contacting him on his website too so hopefully we get a reply I can provide any information like transaction ID's from amazon payments if if he reaches out to you first. Best be optimistic about everything 

From what I had gathered from his emails, on the 5th of September, he was still shipping out the last of his fontaine orders, I'm also an international buyer so generally people will tell you to wait a month or two. I've been trying to contact him since early October as well but each has fallen on deaf ears. 

Could be a means for giving buyers a reason to buy from them. While I don't quite like it, it could be a nice little gesture or incentive - instead of regular bikes, you can have art of play bikes. Then again it could provide artificial value to the collectors market which would be a bit of a bummer.

Quote from: agera94 on May 14, 2014, 04:55:26 AM

The Artifice series may have had its share of over-running the course of its life, but the DM line has done this in roughly 12 months. Unfortunately it just has no more appeal, and I'll be comfortably leaving these alone.

With the Artifice line, it was a single basic design offered in a handful of colors, with the "Tundra" deck (a.k.a. Artifice Ghost) being the biggest departure from the basic formula.  One deck line, a handful of colors, period.  Not terribly sexy after all this time, but at least you know what you're getting when you buy an Artifice deck.

With the Madison decks, including the one he created with Theory11, it's been a disjointed series, one after the other, with a string of names that at this point just blend right into each other - Dealers, Hustlers, Players, Rounders, Butchers, Bakers, Candlestick Makers, Tinkers, Tailors, etc., ad nauseum, and with inadequate differences between them to generate enough interest at this stage of the game.  The only name that actually stands out now is Limited, and that's not even an original Madison deck design, it's just an older design with his deck's faces slapped on it - and to me, it wasn't even an improvement on the original face design, which itself was simply USPC standard faces with Artifice indices and a visually interesting color scheme.  At least the earlier designs bore some passing resemblance to classic deck designs used by many Las Vegas casinos or at the least popular with card players.  This "Hustlers" design - I don't know what the heck it is, other than a 10X maginification of a corner of the Dealers with the most bizarre border set-up I've ever seen.

Laughed very hard at the candlestick makers  I found the LTD to be an interesting take on the whole minimal approach to things. The Hustlers design, as it is most likely a 10X magnification of the Dealers, does not look very useful to me, and I feel like it'd raise plenty of eyebrows if you were to pull them out of your pocket and asked someone to touch a card.

I now look forward to seeing further iterations of this series of decks with 'badass' names purely to see the lazy design. We could have a brainstorming session for Dan. If we're thinking of gambling related names I can think of: Folders, Splitters, Shufflers, and Floppers.

Quote from: agera94 on April 21, 2014, 06:21:31 AM

Quote from: crazyfandecks on April 20, 2014, 09:39:14 PM

and i thought D+M doesnt like gaff cards  wonder how gaffs work with gamble

I think there was some question regarding that with the Gaff system for the Artifice decks as well. I can only assume that the gaff cards he would be referring to gaffs that make the spectator suspend their disbelief such as: smudged, shattered, burnt cards, etc. Here's hoping that the gaffs in the gamblers are things that are there to deceive like a 3 of hearts with one corner depicting the ace of spades.

When Madison mentioned being tired and fed up of gaff cards, it was because he was tired of seeing the same old gaffs over and over like broken records being played back to him - such as the 3H-in-one-corner, AS-in-the-other-corner card that's common to a lot of McDonald's Aces or Three Card Monte routines.  The Gaff System cards are a bit more unique than that.  Think of the Angle Z trick - that's not commonly found in gaff decks, but it's in the Gaff System.

What might make for a good gaff in a deck of gambler's gaffs?  How about four Aces that appear perfectly normal, but are the tiniest fraction of an inch LONGER than a standard deck?  You get card control without the use of an actual stripper deck.  You can cut the deck and insure there's always an Ace at the top.  And so on, and so on...

Thanks for clearing that up for me :)And  I could definitely get behind that Ace card control.