Got mine today.  Great job Jackson!

Sorry Robert, I did get defensive there.  Since you are replying to a post on a thread for the "Fantastic Fur" deck and said things like...

And, with full-transformational cards, an observer KNOWS that the pips were not just added, slap-dash, after the rest of the card was drawn.

Then referring to Emmanuel you stated...

From what I recall of your decks, your designs do not play as "fast and easy" with all of these things as do Peter Wood's semi-transformational decks.

Then in another comment you tell Emmanuel....

And, for what it's worth, I don't recall any of your designs striking me as "creatively lazy" in the least. Far from it, in fact.

I guess you may have been saying some other deck was "creatively lazy", but again, since you are writing in this thread and we've already had the artwork called "lazy", childish, it looks like a kid drew it, etc. then without a doubt I became more defensive and sensitive.  This forum is already cut throat for the most part and not very open to different forms of art.  I have actually stayed away from it just for that reason.  Instead of just saying they don't "like" something, well, I'm not going to beat a dead bush, we know how some respond.

I agree with you Robert, it's time to move on.  I love to collect playing cards.  I love to create playing cards.  I love to talk about collecting and creating playing cards.  Sadly, on this forum, although it's getting better, it still just does not compliment any of those things...unless you fit in to their niche or art form.

On the Fantastic Fur project, I really don't mind listening to some of the feedback that you and others have given me here.  We've actually been showing followers of the Kickstarter campaign some of those ideas and we are implementing them.  I thank everyone for that.  I was always told not to "engage" your critics.  I guess I should have known better than to engage here.  I should have just read the constructive comments and never replied back to anything.

To everyone, please, go collect some playing cards but also understand that different people like and collect different things.  That doesn't make one worse, lazy, or because it was not drawn on a computer that doesn't mean a child drew it.  There are lots of different forms of art and different types of playing cards to collect.

I do like the constructive stuff.  Keep it coming.  I don't agree with it all, but that is fine. Everyone has opinions and we can learn.  Likewise some of the folks on here need to understand that different people like different things.  I must say that some of the more recent comments are a LOT better than somebody putting a blinking fish from Spongebob saying "My Eyes"! 

One thing that RSL does bring attention to that no one else has responded to is that there is a difference between "transformational" art work and "semi-transformational" art and yes, historically the semi-transformational decks are pretty cool too.  MrMollusk seems to think this deck is NOT semi-transformational for some reason.  I guess you could say that is his "opinion" but it is inaccurate.  I teased in one of my post by saying "La-Tee-Da" which was a deck from the mid 1800s that was very much a "semi-transformational" deck.  There are lots of semi-transformational decks out there.  I know that RSL doesn't like the semi ones as much, and that's cool.  Everyone likes different things.  I tend to like both the semi and fully transformed decks.  To me the semi are more fun because they add the dimension of trying to find the pips.
The above is a response to when MrMollusk said...

Also, I'm not understanding the historical significance of semi-transformational decks? How is this even RFEMOTELY historical? It's pretentious to even assume that this decks honors the historical significance of semi-transforational decks. You can't throw a few hearts or clubs into a drawing and say "Hey, look! We're cultured! It's semi-transformational!". The card's aren't designed with the pips or suits in mind. The pips are modified to fit the cards. You completely missed the essence of a true transformation deck. Check out the Clipped Wings deck or the Stranger and Stranger Ultimate deck for some more inspiration.

Sorry, but not only is this not constructive criticism, but it is inaccurate.

BTW, Emmanuel, I just got your transformed "Curator" deck a few days ago.  Nice job!  Another good deck for my collection...and yes, I actually have this one in my hands.   

Thanks Justin O., love the great feedback.  Not sure I agree with everything, but we really do appreciate your point of view.

I am curious about your idea of the "white" border.  Are you suggesting there should be no back ground behind the characters? If not, what does white border mean?  Not for sure how well some of these will show here, but these are some of the types of comic books we have been parodying for the background.  Some old, some new, most of them very busy.  These are just a few I found on Google.




On the scans, we took them to a local printer and had them scanned in.  The images that are uploaded to Kickstarter and our site but are reduced to load faster and will get changes in colors, not only depending on your computer screen but also depending on how Peter drew them.  I do see what you mean on the 7 of diamonds.  We will have to get that one touched up.

On proportions, that is a tough one.  Different artist see them in different ways so we will take a look and talk about it.  Even this popular CN toon has some different proportions.


One idea we have thought about is offering another choice of the deck with no background images at all and only the hand drawn and painted artwork from Peter Wood.  I'm not for sure that would be fitting for Justin but I am curious what others think?

Thanks to those who have made some great suggestions!  We just uploaded a new image with changes along with a few other cards from the deck. 
Psst...MrMollusk, be sure to CLOSE YOUR EYES!  You won't want to see anything out of your norm.

Thanks for the post here badpete69.

It is kind of fun to hear some of you point out some of the features of the deck:
- Funny quotes
- Busy art
- Bad Grammar
While some of these may need to be tweaked or changed, many of these are the exact features we were trying to capture in a deck of cards that is trying to capture the look of a comic book.  For example, the "Incredible Hug" uses poor grammar just like the green dude that he parodies.  Also, yes, it is VERY busy, kind of like art that jumps all over a comic book page.

Here is a recent response I gave someone else about this deck.  Why we did the deck?  Personally I love semi-transformational decks.  Especially when they follow a theme or topic. It takes a little more to design art that is actually intended for a deck of cards then it does to slap any image on the card faces.  I'm not saying I don't like other artistic decks, but I see the challenge and creativity level it takes to create a deck of cards that has each image that was designed specifically for that particular card.  I have told others that I am a lot different than many of the collectors here, so I do not post much or really even hang out here much.  I am more "old school" and I LOVE trying to bring "new", old school products back to the market.  I don't mind trendy things like 5 million different deck designs that just happen to say "Bicycle" on them, but it isn't really as appealing to me.  It is the art, the design, the originality.

In regards to "thecardcollector", I am guessing this is the same person who sent me a personal message of encouragement from the Kickstarter campaign that said:
"You guys actually thought this deck was a good idea? All I can say is YIKES! As a collector I have no interest, and poker players certainly won't. Don't really see the point to this, but I do see a funding failure, sorry to say.  Victor "
While I can appreciate the fact that he likes to collect playing cards, I also feel there are other types of collectors and card designs that folks like too.  I understand that on the card collectors side there hasn't been a huge following for semi-transformational in the past 20 years or so.  Maybe that is what prompted me to like that particular art even more.

Well, I'm pretty sure I have the deck at the office.  I'll have to check on Monday.  I don't open a lot of the decks when I get them and just add them to my collection.

Don, as for the comments I've made about some of the decks, I guess I see a lot of comments on here and they are often negative so I was trying to give my thoughts.  Especially if I liked the deck.  BTW, I do NOT have them in bulk.  Any of the decks I've bought off Kickstarter so far have been for my collection.

Not a bad concept, but even after looking at it several times it never really made me want to jump on board with the ks campaign.

Got this deck and liked the design and layout.  I guess I'm a little different than some of the collectors.  I found the concept unique and fun.  Added a nice twist to a traditional deck.  Then again, while I do cater towards the transformed decks, I also tend to like anything with unique concept card faces.  Nice job!

Thought about backing this one but it just did not catch my attention.  Love the transformed decks of all styles.

@Emmanuel just went to your site and bought it.  Will be a great addition to my collection.

Got mine!  LOVE the artwork.  Great job Jackson.