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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Steampunk Goggles Playing Cards (KS)
« on: August 22, 2014, 12:57:21 AM »
Sounds good, Don. We've designed a font and spec'd out the theme but haven't started the artwork or composition yet. Maybe after we get 1 or 2 cards done I'll throw them up and see what you guys come back with. thanks!

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Steampunk Goggles Playing Cards (KS)
« on: August 21, 2014, 09:42:41 PM »
I'm a little late to this thread, but thanks for checking out the deck. Pretty much everyone seems to have received it by now except for a handful of orders that we reshipped and one that we're waiting out due to what I expect to be slow international shipping. Regarding the steampunk theme, I own steampunkgoggles.com so that was the original inspiration behind it. I do agree the theme is really saturated. We're diverging from steampunk projects on Kickstarter for a spell. Right now we're focusing on a couple of games projects, but I'm hoping to do another deck in October or November. We definitely learned from this last campaign and I have new ideas for the next one that I think people will enjoy. I've got plenty left. They're priced a bit higher than they were on KS but you can find them on my site in the "playing cards" category.

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Hey guys, I just wanted to pop in and thank you for your valuable feedback and support on this project, we've passed our funding goal and on our way down the home streeeetch. Anyway, thanks again!

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Jules Verne Deck - Club 808 2014
« on: January 07, 2014, 02:48:19 AM »
lol, Don I still don't think I know what that is, but I remember you explaining it to some degree once before as well. It does sound cool though.

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Design & Development / Re: Post your best MS Paint card backs!
« on: January 07, 2014, 02:30:04 AM »
You'd be surprised, people might just go for it! Case in point:
First there was this: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/
and after they built a following, they did this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14293468/homestuck-adventure-game



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I like those ideas, Don, particularly the lens glare concept, thanks!

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We figured having goggles on all of the face cards (J, Q, K) would be good for the theme without getting too cheesy with the goggles aspect of it. So basically goggles are on 12 of the cards in the deck. We could possibly do stuff with the aces but I personally really like the aesthetic as-is. I could see maybe sticking a little figure into the AoC & AoS wearing goggles - like piloting the airship or standing on the steps of the clock tower. However the corseted heart -- there's just no way that I see to incorporate goggles without detracting from the design. So the short answer is that we could probably do it for some of the aces but the fact that we can't do it for all of them makes me think that we shouldn't do it for any, so that we can stay consistent.

Consistency has been one of the challenges with this deck (e.g. the Queen of Clubs is full-width where all other cards are framed). We'll be reworking the QoC post-funding to match the other cards in this deck, and even the style of some of the other cards such as the King of Hearts to provide a more cohesive look & feel to it.

After we've got this deck funded, if there's enough interest I'd consider a limited run of a non-branded (non-bicycle) deck with full-width designs, and the side-view of the train as the back, and maybe some other stuff to make it interesting and worthy of a project.

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Hi Curt, not nitpicking at all, that's a very good observation and I definitely depend on the community to notice stuff that I don't, so thanks!
The time currently isn't significant, however we've been talking to a few magicians about ideas for a reveal. One idea is to have a regular time on the AoS, but then I happen to have 1 last card that I can do something different with, and the suggestion was to use that for a second AoS with a different time on it, to match another card in the deck. There were a few other ideas for reveals as well. What do you think?

In the meantime, I'll definitely make a note to have him adjust the time so that it makes sense where the hour & minute hand are in relation to one another.

Separate from the hands, we got some more feedback:
1) many clocks do oddly use IIII instead of IV for 4pm, so post-funding we may run a poll to see what people prefer. From what I can tell however, it'll end up staying as IV
2) a few people suggested a skeletal format to the face of the clock, whereby you could see the gears underneath. We'll probably do a mock of that post-funding too and run another poll for backer preferences. Something like this: http://stanleyguess.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/stauer-watch-face-detail-a_.jpg

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Design & Development / Re: Post your best MS Paint card backs!
« on: January 05, 2014, 01:46:35 AM »
I'm thinking of doing this as a stretch goal on my project, what do you think?


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Deck Reviews! / Re: Battle 61: Smith Back vs Acorn Back
« on: January 05, 2014, 01:36:38 AM »
Acorn, I like the inner border and reversed background. It creates more of a solid shape out of the pattern than the Smith one, which I find more appealing.

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No worries, I think I'll stay out of that part of the conversation though  :)

Getting back on topic, here's our latest reveal, the Ace of Spades



5 days to go! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/consorte/steampunk-goggles-playing-cards-deck-uspcc-bicycle

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re: the post, No worries, thanks man, glad we talked this out :-)

Re youtube channel & facebook sure it would be great to work something out. Shoot me a PM on Kickstarter...

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dude I just left you a very detailed reply to this and sent you a personal message as well. Here's a copy of it:

Creator Consorte Marketing 16 minutes ago
Hi Jose, if you read my past updates you'll see the history behind this. Originally international shipping rates were much higher, and then after quite a bit of number crunching, outreach & research I was referred to a 3rd party shipper who is cheaper than USPS. I was able to lower the rates for many rewards and in addition to posting the new rates in updates, I believe I sent personal messages to every single international backer who originally had a higher rate listed. When I lowered the rates, I marked the reward levels with the higher rates as "sold out" - that is the only thing you can do on Kickstarter once someone has backed a reward - you can't delete anything that has at least 1 backer to it. What does happen however is if someone drops out or changes their reward level on a "sold out" item, that item becomes available again. I periodically go through the rewards and mark the old ones as "sold out" when I can, but a lot of this is out of my control. To be clear, the rate for 1 deck internationally is $6, and for 2 decks it is $9. Please refer to update #3 for the first reduction http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/consorte/steampunk-goggles-playing-cards-deck-uspcc-bicycle/posts/695712 and then the paragraph under the heading "Did We Mention Lower International Shipping?" in update #7 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/consorte/steampunk-goggles-playing-cards-deck-uspcc-bicycle/posts/704195

Here's copies of excerpts from the updates I mentioned:

update #3 12/15/2013:

Reduced International Shipping on Larger Orders

We couldn't reduce shipping on everything, but we were able to lower the shipping charges substantially for international backers who ordered at least two decks. We've reduced shipping on rewards that contain goggles by about 50%.

update #7 12/24/2013:

Did We Mention Lower International Shipping?

International Backers: in case you haven't heard, our friends at Bent Castle Workshops hooked us up with a connection to cut our international rates, particularly for the one and two-deck rewards. If you pledged during the first week or so of this campaign, then take another look to be sure that you're in the best reward level. If you find that you saved some money, then please consider putting some of that towards cool add-ons like dice or another deck.

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I like the color scheme and your use of those metallic inks. You guys did great with Gold and I'm impressed by your quick launch and hitting your goal in a day. Nice job!

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I should tell him that! This is Dan Garf, he's the backer who appears on the card. He picked up the King & Queen of Hearts for himself and his girlfriend, very romantic. So there's a lot riding on this!


We added the beard to make him look a little older...

wow you're kinda right...

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Thought I'd share some more of our artwork:



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Will do, thanks Don, I'll reach out to her! Ivan at Kardify just put up a nice interview today: http://www.kardify.com/2013/12/kickstarter-7-questions-with-dennis.html

You can see a few variations of the direction we're moving in with the LE card backs there.

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FYI we just posted a backers-only preview of our LE card backs. We'll be changing some of the coloring and other details but it's in project updates if anyone on this thread is a backer & wants to take a look. We'll probably release a more finalized version of the backs + tuck box to the public in the next day or two.

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Thanks GB, I think all of these things are possible factors as to why we're at 56% and not 100%. Another huge factor is the holidays. I sent out an update to backers asking to share more on social media today - hopefully that will help. When we reveal the new LE backs I think we might get some more pickup too - they're looking pretty cool.

We're on Max Playing Cards and WOPC, and one of my backers is talking to Tuckbox. Could you recommend a few top blogs that I should be pitching?

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Playing Card Plethora / Re: The Jules Verne Deck - Club 808 2014
« on: December 18, 2013, 07:38:05 PM »
I like where you're going with the sketches & agree that there should be something special about it outside of 'ol JV.
I liked the Bent Castle deck a lot and it was one of the sources of inspiration for my own deck. Maybe take a look at that one for ideas.
If you look at the wikipedia page on your subject, you might get some ideas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyages_Extraordinaires

Some things that come to mind for me:

54 novels matches a deck with 2 jokers pretty exactly. You could somehow make each card representative of a different novel, though I suppose that could get messy and very laborious
geology, biology, astronomy, paleontology, oceanography - each suit could be representative of one of those, and then jokers + 2 extra cards could be representative of the 5th subject


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Thanks John!

By the way we got our dice prototypes as add-ons per request from some dice collectors, final versions will have slightly bigger lettering so they're a bit cleaner:

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Hey Sprouts, thanks for the feedback. Yeah, the plateau worries me for sure. That's part of the reason for the extra PR & advertising we're doing. We picked up some ads on Reddit & one of the game boards to see if they result in some movement. So far I got one backer through Reddit so we'll see. We also got a review on one of the bigger playing card sites and some press on NJ.com which has 2,000,000 uniques per month according to compete.com. Today we did a press release on PRWeb's full network and tomorrow we've got a social media campaign blasting stuff out. Hopefully it all jives together. If not, I still get some exposure for my other companies so it's all good.

We tried posting on boards but I gave up on that - other boards feel this stuff is spammy and I don't want to be in that category.

Regarding the design, I like the advice that both you & Don gave a lot. He also agrees about the smoke up the butt thing and used the same phrasing  so I think that's great to know. In our brainstorming, he did come up with a great idea that I think would appease the 4-color concept while keeping the actual colors used to two.

For the LE deck, it's too late to not offer it as a reward and only offer it as a stretch goal.

The goggles got very little pickup, I'm guessing it's just the audience, so I cut the total rewards available to free up more decks as add-ons, and made the goggles into an add-on.

The pips are on the cards but with the 4 color thing they would change sightly.

The back of the card - great idea with flipping the top & bottom - makes perfect sense. Would you do a white border or a black border on the black backs?

I'll skip the add-on cards - like you said it's complicated. Don came up with an idea for that that could possibly work, but it's too much legwork with the time I have left and could delay getting the cards out, which I absolutely don't want to do (I read too many horror stories about creators not delivering and don't want to be in that pool).

I agree with cleaning up the page - it's busy and confusing. I think I got the story out enough and can cut the text substantially. If the updates didn't auto-email to people I'd put all the extra text into a post on there. I think some people would be interested.

Tuck box - yes I agree. What do you think of the LE back? I like the SE back much better personally. I'm thinking of getting a fresh design for the LE.

Bee stock & foil - it wouldn't work with my expenses. The margins are razor thin on this project and that would put me in the hole a few grand. I think USPCC said they couldn't do the foil in our last email but I'll check again incase I misread. They did say they'd do the metallic inks for a small increase per deck, which I can absorb, so I want to do the copper as a little goal for people to get the shares of the project page up to 500 from the 350ish it's at now. LE would be the first deck to get that and there's another goal for the SE to get it after.



I am embossing the LE deck for sure.

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Don - good speaking with you last night even though I didn't get to sleep  8)
It was very helpful and you had some great ideas for the deck.

BiggerDee - thanks for the positive feedback! Yes, I want the community to get involved - I want this project to adapt organically based on advice from others and also what the project backers are looking for. I can't please everyone, but I think I can shape it into something wonderful with everyone's help.

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Design & Development / Re: Texasplayingcards.com
« on: December 17, 2013, 09:48:43 PM »
I'm still learning about cards, but I can give a little advice on some other stuff. First, I see you started this project almost a year ago. You should make sure you can renew your quote with the printing company if it expired - I know that USPCC is doing a price increase in January and other companies may as well, so it would be good for you to lock in your pricing. It's Christmas season too, so if you still plan to launch early (I wouldn't recommend it), then just expect that the printers may be less responsive than usual due to heavy holiday schedules.

Second, I'm not sure if this was covered in one of the old posts (I didn't notice it), but be very careful when pricing out your deck & funding goal. It took me many hours to come up with some spreadsheets to account for all of the costs (art, printing, set up fees, envelopes/mailers, postage, pick/pack unless you do it all yourself, promotion and other labor). I also personally had some out of budget stuff, like some advertising & press release syndication I wasn't planning for (a single PR will run you a few hundred bucks + the writing of it by a professional). I honestly don't know how some people on Kickstarter are able to price their decks as they do. I can see how artists can do that part themselves, and most people can pick/pack themselves, and people who are already established with a following can get a jumpstart on their campaigns. Anyway, be careful on that - being off by even a little bit can cost you thousands. One other thing I realized after launch was that there will be some transactions that fail - it seems to be over 3% so consider that when figuring out your goal.

Hope this helps.

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FYI I checked the thread on your deck, sprouts. I see you had some challenges finding the extra 8 cards on your 64 - what was the final verdict? For mine, I would do an add-on deck to keep the branded bicycle box for the main 52. But I can't figure out how to get extra cards that match 100%. I feel like finding the stock would be pretty easy, but the cut could be just ever so slightly off from another supplier.

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