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Don,

I really do not think at this point that we need to go the archival-quality poly material at this point.  The clear vinyl would be the same plastic as comprises the 3 by 3 binder pages most of us use to store and display playing cards now.  Most of them have been in such storage for years with no detrimental effects.  Playing cards have protective plastic coating that tends to protect them anyway. Still, the sheets would have to be stacked and pressed on top of each other over a period of time for the cards to bleed onto them.  I do not envision these 56-pocket sheets to be so heavily pressed as that.

I am inclined to go with StoreSmart's recommendation that we go with the less expensive clear vinyl.  If, at some later point, there comes a demand for the more expensive archival poly plastic, then we can take another look.

Harry

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My friends at StoreSmart.com already offer 22 inch by 28 inch rigid toploaders that can store and protect entire uncut sheets of playing cards.  I asked them if they could also make a larger version of the 3 by 3 pocket binder pages collectors use to store and display baseball cards -- a playing card also fits neatly into each pocket.  I was hoping for 8 pockets by 7 pockets, which would allow an entire deck of individual playing cards to be displayed as it would appear if still uncut.  I even sent them a prototype I made by cutting several 3 by 3 pocket binder pages and taping them together.

The response was yes, they could make such a product, but there would be a retooling cost.  We can spread that one-time retooling cost over the per unit cost of the initial order.  If we can sell 1,000 sheets, the cost can come in at under $10 per sheet.  After that, subsequent runs would cost considerably less.

At StoreSmart's recommendation, the 8 x 7 pocket sheet would come with a loop across the top that would accommodate a rod to support the weight of the sheet when filled with cards in case someone wanted to hang it on the wall.  I should also mention, the 8 by 7 sheet would be clear vinyl, which is suitable for display, but not necessarily for long-term archival storage.  For that they would have to use a poly material which would require more expensive retooling.

My initial idea for the 8 by 7 vinyl sheet was simply to display an entire deck of cut cards as if they were uncut.  Others who saw my prototype at the 52 Plus Joker Convention in Orlando pointed out it could open up a whole new area of artist design.  "Puzzle decks" could be designed with such display in mind, or collections of similar type cards -- just jokers or cards with cat designs could be displayed.

Anyway, I am testing the waters here to see if there is enough interest to justify pursuing this further.




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Introduce Yourself / Harry Wastrack -- New to the Forum
« on: October 28, 2015, 04:19:47 PM »
Hi,

I'm Harry Wastrack.  Members of 52 Plus Joker would know me as the past club president, frequent contributor to the club newsletter "Clear the Decks," and a familiar face at the 52 Plus Joker conventions.  I live in Northern Virginia (the D.C. Area).

I don't do cardistry, or so little it barely counts, and I don't do magic, or so badly it barely counts.  But I do love playing cards and collecting playing cards.  I have written several playing card price guides and the book "The Essential Hand & Foot" which explains how to play a card game called Hand & Foot, an edgier version of Canasta.

I hope to be a more familiar presence on the Forum.

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The artist for the deck is Knute "K.O." Munson (1900-1967).  A mint condition single deck may bring as much as $20.  This particular deck is often paired with another displaying a painting by Munson and a mint double deck set may bring as much as $50.  The estimated year of issue is 1960.

Harry Wastrack
52 Plus Joker member & former club president

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