You are Here:

Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - LeacockDesign

Pages: [1]
1
Playing Card Plethora / Re: Shannon Young's Derby Deck (KS)
« on: July 01, 2014, 06:43:29 PM »
After some futzing, here's a new version of the indices/borders. I'm in a bit of a corner with the courts (pun unintended, I swear), as I have to leave room for a white border as well as some space between the border of the art and the indices. The result is that the indices are a little farther from the edge than I'd prefer.

Critiques please!

2
Playing Card Plethora / Re: Shannon Young's Derby Deck (KS)
« on: June 23, 2014, 02:05:17 PM »
Thanks for your post GBAllison!

• Full bleed has been nixed, at the recommendation of just about every serious poker player or cardist who has seen the design.
• I'm actually moving the indices TODAY:) I have a personal preference for wide borders in my graphic design work, and I now realize that that was a silly thing to bring with me into a project like this. I may also shrink them a bit.
• Our Aces will be identifiable, and of course Jokers, but the kings/queens/jacks don't have an identifying trait at the moment.
• Now that we're looking at the very real possibility of failing to meet our goal by the end of the Kickstarter, we're considering how we'll re-launch the deck if that's the case. A matched pair of decks will be a part of that discussion.
• I'll talk to Shannon about one-eyed & suicide cards. That's actually something that hadn't occurred to me, but did occur to one of our team members.
• Glad you dig the pips! I seriously had no idea what I was doing there, but I like the result.
• I 75% like the index font. I feel like it's pointier in the numbers than the letters, and I chose it for the letters. I may be able to adjust the pointiness of the numbers to make it more uniform.

3
Playing Card Plethora / Re: Shannon Young's Derby Deck (KS)
« on: June 23, 2014, 01:53:04 PM »
It's a fair assessment to say that we've made a few rookie mistakes. Unfortunately, the unfinished status of the deck is more or less impossible to remedy before the Kickstarter ends. When we started our research on this (like 3 years ago?) the landscape of custom decks looked quite different, and it seemed reasonable to offer a partially-finished deck on Kickstarter and get the funding to complete it and print it. Now it seems like the standard practice is to complete the design first, and use KS only for the printing costs. We'll definitely be keeping that in mind for future projects.

4
Playing Card Plethora / Re: Shannon Young's Derby Deck (KS)
« on: June 17, 2014, 04:47:12 PM »
A Roller Derby rules card! That's brilliant! We actually had the idea to make a roller derby rules coloring book as a kind of kitschy item that teams could hand out at bouts, but this is a really cool way we could round out the deck.

I understand the hesitance about supporting a deck that isn't completely designed yet. I can tell you that it's my job to manage the art creation process and keep Shannon on track. The timeline posted to the Kickstarter page is an outside estimate, assuming that the art takes longer than we expect. Running a tattoo shop means Shannon is experienced with creating art on a schedule, so she can most definitely make it happen.

You don't know me, so I can offer no proof of our intentions, I can only tell you that while we're new to the world of playing cards, I'm a professional at what I do, and Shannon is a professional at what she does, and everyone on our team is extremely excited to hold a deck of these cards in our hand. We want this project to get finished and delivered rapidly as much as anyone!

5
Playing Card Plethora / Re: Shannon Young's Derby Deck (KS)
« on: June 14, 2014, 12:32:21 AM »
Bama,

I can see your perspective. You're paying a premium for something that, without the extra art, would cost a couple of bucks, and for that 500% markup, you expect something special, and something unsullied with ads. From the perspective of a purist, this makes sense to me. I get annoyed when I pay for a BluRay and I have to watch a bunch of ads for other movies before I get to the content I paid for... I can relate.

Our reasoning for adding the option is to try to get to our goal faster. We're taking our first trip into this world, and during the planning phase we tried to find every possible way to accelerate the funding process. It may have been a bad call, though the way things are going now, I'm not sure we're going to sell any of the ad space anyway. I'm personally hoping we get funded without selling any of them. If that's the case, we may design some special cards, like a double-back.

I personally wouldn't make a yes or no decision on a deck based on the presence of ad cards. I figure, if I'm collecting and keep it sealed in a display case, the ads are invisible. If i'm going to open the deck and use the cards, I'll discard the ads and that's pretty much the end of it. That's just me, though, and I am definitely NOT a collector. Not yet anyway.

I'm actually curious what kinds of extra cards you'd recommend for the two spares that come in a standard deck (assuming we don't get funded) ... any thoughts?

Thanks for the input!

6
Playing Card Plethora / Re: Shannon Young's Derby Deck (KS)
« on: June 13, 2014, 08:41:37 PM »
Thanks Shadowkat,

We've looked into EPCC, and they're an attractive option for plan B (if the kickstarter doesn't get funded this time around). We've been marketing as a USPCC deck the entire time, so It'd be a bit of a bummer to have to tell our existing backers that we're changing printers. We just got a demo deck from EPCC today and the quality is faaantastic.

Thanks for sharing, we definitely appreciate it. I just want to hold a deck of these cards in my hand!

7
Playing Card Plethora / Re: Shannon Young's Derby Deck (KS)
« on: June 13, 2014, 07:43:23 PM »
Hey guys, back again with some new stuff from the deck.

I went ahead and created a (very rough) mockup of the Queen of Diamonds with the border cut the same way as the rest of the courts, and I think I'm going to push for us to implement this change in the final printed deck. I find it more attractive than I expected to, and solving that problem with functionality just feels like the right move.

I've attached some mockups of the number cards, curious if y'all have any comments/critiques.

I'm also working on a version of the cards with thin borders. After you mentioned it, Don, I looked at some of my friend's card decks (he's a poker fanatic), and the versions with thin borders look very clean and classy. I think my preference for wide margins comes from a fundamental mistrust of printers and their attention to detail.

Thanks again!

8
Playing Card Plethora / Re: Shannon Young's Derby Deck (KS)
« on: June 05, 2014, 04:20:42 AM »
Thanks Don, lots to think about.

• I'm going to try some options with that card edge and see what I can come up with. I tend to prefer nice big margins in general, that one was a bit of a quandary when I got the art.

• Your idea for a pair of decks is very interesting. I'm going to bring that up as a possible stretch goal, though my guess is that it'll be too expensive. I also kinda hate to lose the one-way back, it's actually one of my favorite parts of the design, and really makes a statement about what the athletes are like... sweethearts who can knock you flat on your back.

• I've been toying with adding different cards to the tuck box. If nothing else, one of the upcoming courts might do the trick, possibly something with some actual derby action.

• I really love the idea of having the inspiration behind the cards represented in the video. With the project gaining funding as fast as it is, I think we could pull that off. Time to see if I can really use that copy of AfterEffects. We'll also be posting a lot of the in-process art for the remainder of the cards, and as soon as new cards are finished they'll go up in an update.

• I mocked up the tuck box without the obscuring card and will be adding it to the page shortly. I would love to do another deck, design it myself, and get some of those amazing foil or embossing effects on a nice heavy stock. The more I look at specialty decks, the more I realize how much talent is going into some of these things. The Jackson Robinson Sherlock Holmes deck... just incredible the amount of talent and patience it took to put that project together.

• I just checked up on postage rates, looks like postcards under 4x6 are 34¢ and letters under 1 ounce are 49¢.
http://postcalc.usps.gov/postcards.aspx

Thanks a million for taking the time to advise us! I'll try to apply what I can to our project, and if I ever design another deck, I'll be much better prepared. Looks like we just hit 20% funding, things are looking up.

9
Playing Card Plethora / Re: Shannon Young's Derby Deck (KS)
« on: June 04, 2014, 12:21:47 AM »
Thanks Science, here's a couple of links:

Shannon's Tattoos & Illustrations: http://www.foreveryoungtattoo.com/
My Design Portfolio: http://www.leacockdesign.com

10
Playing Card Plethora / Re: Shannon Young's Derby Deck (KS)
« on: June 03, 2014, 11:49:57 PM »
Thanks Don!

I'm Steve, the designer/art director of Derby Deck, and Shannon is in charge of the illustrations. I really appreciate your offer to educate us on the finer points of card design. I'm a complete newbie to this world, but a print designer by profession.

One issue we've already grappled with is the Queen of Diamonds having a full-bleed colored background, and it was a tough call. We like that card so much aesthetically that we couldn't bear to bring in the background's margin and lose the amazing detail in the watercolor wash that Shannon painted. My ears are definitely open to any changes you think we might need.


Pages: [1]