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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Lost Wax Playing Cards (KS)
« on: June 24, 2014, 01:25:28 AM »
Thanks so much for the advice. Would it be OK if I emailed either of you? (Don or Rob?)
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Introduce Yourself / Re: How did you find PlayingCardForum?
« on: June 23, 2014, 01:44:15 AM »
Hi,
Im Tade. One of my kickstarter backers suggested I check out this forum. Kindly show some support for my playing cards project! Any donations or feedback would be greatly appreciated.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/975361503/lost-wax-playing-cards
Im Tade. One of my kickstarter backers suggested I check out this forum. Kindly show some support for my playing cards project! Any donations or feedback would be greatly appreciated.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/975361503/lost-wax-playing-cards
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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Lost Wax Playing Cards (KS)
« on: June 23, 2014, 01:36:47 AM »
Hi guys,
Please feel free to call me Tade.
I really appreciate the constructive criticism. To be honest i know my pledge amount is relatively high.
Based on other playing card projects on kickstarter I estimated about 2000 cards give or take to ship to my backers. I added this amount to the number of cards I need to produce (5000), giving me a total of about 7000 cards. I decided to produce 5000 (plus the 2000 for backers) at USPCC because it was a healthy amount to get my project off the ground and because producing twice the minimum at USPCC brings my unit cost down by a significant amount. I need this unit cost to make a healthy growth margin. The cost of producing the cards alone is higher than the $15000 you pointed out and I need to account for other startup costs as well. Im still trying to figure out if its best to cancel, slash costs, settle for a lower amount and hope i overfund. But a lot of the costs go into actually bringing the cards to market, costs that are essential to selling the cards and cant be paid for after the cards are sold.
In terms 'selling' the apprx 2000, I assumed that if i included the amount of producing the additional 2000 units and the approximate cost of shipping them to the 1k plus backers then I would be OK. Im a little confused by your 3rd and 4th point. Are you inferring that i'm in fact not raising enough to fulfill the cards to my backers? If so, kindly explain.
In terms of hiring a designer, I don't have the technical skills for photoshop and illustrator but I art directed the project from start to finish-- working hand in hand with the designer every step of the way. You're right the face cards may be a little simplistic and I still think the design needs to evolve but I had budget constraints. For instance the Jack in my initial sample wasn't up to par thats why i don't have images of it in my first prototype. I have included a file of the revised Jack, and some pattern inspiration for an improved package. My hope is that as the brand grows, the design will as well. Perhaps I might have the opportunity to work with one of you!
I really appreciate the advice. Ill see how things go in the next few days before I make a decision but I would appreciate any referrals for blogs or any support.
Thanks so much
Please feel free to call me Tade.
I really appreciate the constructive criticism. To be honest i know my pledge amount is relatively high.
Based on other playing card projects on kickstarter I estimated about 2000 cards give or take to ship to my backers. I added this amount to the number of cards I need to produce (5000), giving me a total of about 7000 cards. I decided to produce 5000 (plus the 2000 for backers) at USPCC because it was a healthy amount to get my project off the ground and because producing twice the minimum at USPCC brings my unit cost down by a significant amount. I need this unit cost to make a healthy growth margin. The cost of producing the cards alone is higher than the $15000 you pointed out and I need to account for other startup costs as well. Im still trying to figure out if its best to cancel, slash costs, settle for a lower amount and hope i overfund. But a lot of the costs go into actually bringing the cards to market, costs that are essential to selling the cards and cant be paid for after the cards are sold.
In terms 'selling' the apprx 2000, I assumed that if i included the amount of producing the additional 2000 units and the approximate cost of shipping them to the 1k plus backers then I would be OK. Im a little confused by your 3rd and 4th point. Are you inferring that i'm in fact not raising enough to fulfill the cards to my backers? If so, kindly explain.
In terms of hiring a designer, I don't have the technical skills for photoshop and illustrator but I art directed the project from start to finish-- working hand in hand with the designer every step of the way. You're right the face cards may be a little simplistic and I still think the design needs to evolve but I had budget constraints. For instance the Jack in my initial sample wasn't up to par thats why i don't have images of it in my first prototype. I have included a file of the revised Jack, and some pattern inspiration for an improved package. My hope is that as the brand grows, the design will as well. Perhaps I might have the opportunity to work with one of you!
I really appreciate the advice. Ill see how things go in the next few days before I make a decision but I would appreciate any referrals for blogs or any support.
Thanks so much
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Playing Card Plethora / Re: Lost Wax Playing Cards (KS)
« on: June 19, 2014, 06:00:54 PM »
When I began this project I never intended on scamming anyone and I still don't. Creative projects require more than simply manufacturing a batch of goods. They involve hiring and working with designers, creating a website, funding a targeted PR campaign, paying photographers for images, paying filmmakers to bring videos to life etc. Kickstarter is a platform for creative projects and my hope was to use it to bring my project to life. I've worked on this diligently for 2 years; never once did scamming anyone come to mind. It’s too bad I'm Nigerian. If I wasn't I may have come off as more honest and trustworthy and this obviously wouldn't strike you as a scam.
Im not sure what you mean with regards to repeating courts. The King, Queen and Jack are different. They have the same posture (this actually posed a huge design problem for us—the profile seemed like the only workable pose) but different weapons in the different suits. I didn’t like the Jack in the first prototype we manufactured that’s why I omitted an image of it on kickstarter. The Jack in the new prototype hasn’t been manufactured yet (need to raise money) so I’ve added an image of it here as well as other pattern ideas for subsequent decks and an image of a number card.
Please see: /Users/oabidoye/Desktop/Final Inspiration Board.png
The detailing in the package (like the textured surface and yellow inner sleeves) require added costs at USPCC. The marginal cost for mine is slightly higher. I will be producing 7200 units at USPCC. I estimate sending about 2200 units to my backers and I plan on bringing the remaining 5000 units to market by Christmas. In addition to the cost of goods I have other start up and marketing costs. My pledge goal isn't going solely towards manufacturing the cards but on other costs as well.
The cards haven't been made yet. I made a prototype in order to promote the project but I haven't produced the final deck yet. That's why I need to raise money on kickstarter: to produce and effectively launch these cards.
I welcome any feedback or other suggestions you might have.
Thanks so much.
Im not sure what you mean with regards to repeating courts. The King, Queen and Jack are different. They have the same posture (this actually posed a huge design problem for us—the profile seemed like the only workable pose) but different weapons in the different suits. I didn’t like the Jack in the first prototype we manufactured that’s why I omitted an image of it on kickstarter. The Jack in the new prototype hasn’t been manufactured yet (need to raise money) so I’ve added an image of it here as well as other pattern ideas for subsequent decks and an image of a number card.
Please see: /Users/oabidoye/Desktop/Final Inspiration Board.png
The detailing in the package (like the textured surface and yellow inner sleeves) require added costs at USPCC. The marginal cost for mine is slightly higher. I will be producing 7200 units at USPCC. I estimate sending about 2200 units to my backers and I plan on bringing the remaining 5000 units to market by Christmas. In addition to the cost of goods I have other start up and marketing costs. My pledge goal isn't going solely towards manufacturing the cards but on other costs as well.
The cards haven't been made yet. I made a prototype in order to promote the project but I haven't produced the final deck yet. That's why I need to raise money on kickstarter: to produce and effectively launch these cards.
I welcome any feedback or other suggestions you might have.
Thanks so much.
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