Ok!

I actually order a lot in bulk and ship them here to offset my own costs then trade and sell them off to others here.  Forming a nice little network of aussie friends to sell and trade between.

You should learn who the Aussies are and join the various other Facebook groups as well as the forums here.

On Facebook the collecting playing cards group is pretty tight knit.  And the cards club by victor is more of a billboard for cards and victors own videos than a community but it's still got some valuable information and you see people selling and trading.  There are also various other buy and trade groups. 

Plus don't forget the same pages and posts here on the forum and others.

In saying that if your looking for cards Aussie just hit me up with a PM.  I can give you some names to know who I know is ok from prior dealing. And can give you a list of stuff I have.  I'm thinking of starting a group myself for Aussies so that we know who's who and who has what.  Perhaps it could be a aussie price page.  Aussie dollars including aussie shipping.

Also don't write off the flush just yet.

Some of their stuff might seem expensive until you realise that some of it is not available anywhere other than eBay.  Plus Joey is one of the nicest guys on the planet.  Straight shooter and he is a collector trying to help aussie collectors.  The flush is not run by some big business.  It's run by a local and one of us.  Also important to mention is that although it has some staples on it Joey spends a lot of time trying to find he rarer decks and bring me down here (he's been selling jaqks for way cheaper than eBay, and oracles too).  And don't forget it's generally including shipping costs (I think 2 or 3 decks or more is shipping included?). Although should mention the flush is not shipping for a couple of weeks while he's over in the states having a well earned rest and also going around grabbing decks from our American card brothers!

Anyway.  PM me and we can connect.  Also anyone else in Aus is free to do so.  Might look into that as a way to increase our own little down under community!

Ha!  Well I might have been a lot younger back then but I can tell you without a doubt I remember that "city people" spoke differently at least. But yeah its not something a lot of people really consider but definitely different accents all over this country.  I think from memory a professor from one of the Adelaide universities wrote a book or paper on it a few years back.  I'll see if I can find it somewhere.

On top of that I think the author of that book was probably more than a little lazy.  I guess when someone is writing a book, especially in the pre-internet information age, they could always take some liberties with the info they put out if their publisher didn't care to fact check.  But to have even basic figures completely incorrect to maybe have an interesting read is both silly and lazy.  For a start the census to count the population and demographic info of Australia is every 5 years and was done in 1986, which means info released the following year or two.  If shes based a book on 1988 she would have easily been able to use this info as public record.

And looking at it the population from 1986 was over 15.6 million  of which only slightly over 50% are female.  In fact at that time males outnumber females in every single age group it seems until after 65 where they quickly made up the numbers to be in front (surprise surprise  the men dropped off a little younger for some reason).

The census done in 1991 has total population at 8.36 million male 8.48 million female.  So even then there wasn't 10 million females even in Australia. 

No wonder people of the world see us all as a different species that rides a kangaroo to school.

Here are links to both the census papers mentioned.  You could easily find the current ones through the ABS too.  The previous census would have been 2011 and released 12-13 so its going to give you a pretty accurate update on current Australia.

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausstats/free.nsf/0/5BA81C2FEEF1C4A7CA25757C0011D47B/$File/25010_1986_Aust_In_Brief.pdf

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausstats/free.nsf/0/792BBD9457634FFECA2574BE00826627/$File/27100_1991_20_Census_Characteristics_of_Australia.pdf

And for those wondering, no.  We didn't ride a kangaroo to school.  You had to take a bus or car because if you were uncovered while traveling under a tree there was always a danger a drop bear would leap down and get you.  Many an arm lost on the way to school in the 80's here.  Lucky we figured out they were deterred by Vegemite.  Locals have been safe ever since.   

I don't want to knock this one back off course Don but your actually incorrect about Australia. The accents and colloquialisms used are not all the same nation-wide.  There are some commonalities but there is a definite difference between the states not only with words and names of things but accents and colloquialisms as well. 

As an example for names of things what you call a corndog is a pluto pup in some areas and a dagwood dog in others, plus a variety of other names depending on where your from. 

The accent is also extremely different between country NSW (where I'm from) and anywhere within 4 hours of the city.  (I still find myself slipping back into a nasal vowel stretch when I visit family and talk to people around the area.  Partly out of habit, partly comfort for me and them and partly so they understand me and don't think I'm snooty city folk.    )

Then country NSW is different to Queensland, and again to the NT.  Is it enough to tell the difference.  Definitely if your from here you can know someone is "not from round these parts" and if its an accent you know maybe even more so. 

It is being Americanized more every day.  And most don't know but our population grows faster from immigration than from birth rates.  So its an extremely multicultural society, that grows more so every day. 

But obviously there are an awful lot of people who are from other countries (Esp the USA) that think we all just sound the same. 

Almost as many as the number of Americans that think Australia and Austria are the same thing.    But we can't hold every comment made by our elected officials against ourselves. 

Anyway.  Didn't want to highjack it any further.  Just wanted to jump in on something I actually can say I have indisputable experience on 

I really thought it was a home run this time, but in light of a couple of things I had planned to help with the ending not coming together, and strangely a handful of the larger backers pulling out all of a sudden (leaving us from being close to our goal to so very far away with only a week remaining) I have decided to cancel this to allow people who are tight on funds but thinking of supporting other projects that need it but are supporting this to the end instead, to go help those other creators make their dreams happen.

I will keep the current supporters up to date and possibly revisit the design at a later date in a different style.  In the mean time I will continue my work on the very early stages of the Fume design I have been showing around a little however this is a long way off and It will share it more formally soon as I am working on it.

Thanks to everyone who was so vocal and supportive on this deck, I hope you have not all been too let down.  There is always the future to be excited about.

De.

Wrong forum I think?

Not really a new deck, sorry.

Completely against KS terms.  Reselling an already made product from someone else.  I know many now have sent messages to KS but they are just ignoring it.  I guess that they might think its funny.  But by definition they are allowing something completely against terms. 
Surely everyone backing it is also doing so as a joke.
But if someone isn't, and sues the crap out of them for false advertising, and KS knowingly allowing it to happen, I guess the last laugh would be elsewhere.
 

Sorry Don,

Closed group maybe.

Anyway, Can't confirm 100% but this popped up a few weeks ago.

Don't make me step in and separate you two! 

Remember there is a rather average deck of cards to be discussed here...   

Not my cup of tea either.  But it seems even Shin Lim is posting about how good it is??

Lol I used to drive over 250 km a day, every day, in one of my jobs as a younger man.  Through a tourist area with a bunch of people who are usually used to driving on the opposite side of the road, and also tourist from queensland...

I would use words that could strip paint off the walls on a daily basis.  Now, living and working from home and letting the world come to me I have not even done 30,000 km in the last 7-8 years.  Just as well because now I have kids and driving them to play group could be an issue if I still drove every day.   

Anyway.  This deck has only $28 pledged to it.  I would have though that was statistically impossible...

Even the kings game deck and the movie monster one has more than that (and did so at day one...)

Yep, the blue turned him ill.

Lol, Just woke up, and this has already made my day, thanks Fes. 

On the proposed tuck, I don't understand the security window. Is someone secretly running about stuffing the wrong deck in the wrong tuck?

Actually, I think this bit is funny.  Because I distinctly remember as a kid there were cheap decks here that were knock-offs of the traditional cheap $2 store deck.  Yes thats right Knock offs of what were probably already knockoffs!  But they looked slightly different once you opened them.  So the original $2 store decks suddenly started using this concept of a "security window" so you could see they were the genuine $2 article 

And to put it in perspective here.  Our standard, supermarket cards are bridge size, queen slippers.  They are terrible, flimsy, dishwater designed "playing cards".  That's about the extent of what available in Australia.  On local little independent games store recently started stock Bikes, for $20 a deck!   So when you consider that, then think of what a $2 deck is like, then consider what a knockoff of those is like?   (Think about making your own cards with only 2 colour pencils, an old newspaper and some kids paste glue).

So yeah, back on topic.  The security window idea, will always make me feel like its a cheap deck.  If you want to show off the card back design, put it on the tuck, or do it with a little more class like Lawrence Sullivan did with the Legends series.

@HudsonDesign - Be carful what you click on.  You might fall into a rabbit hole.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNF3_30lUE

Ahhhh dammit....

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/174170784/saturn-playing-cards