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Design & Development / Re: What Card Stock to Use?
« on: January 29, 2016, 09:25:18 PM »
As always, the information on this board is invaluable.

Thanks, guys.

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Good luck - it's going to be a tough market to crack with this deck.

A few notes:

For the drunken, naked dwarf, you'd do better to conceal his genitalia by showing a side angle.  Some printers might object to anything short of a black box covering the genitals if they're visible - you could get your project rejected.  I've seen a few people make decks with mild nudity in them have trouble finding a printer.

Check the spelling on all of your cards.  Artillery only has one A...

Stating that the cards will be 20.5mm in total is not a good idea, for two reasons.  One: paper thickness will always vary somewhat - it's nearly impossible to mass-produce paper to a perfectly uniform thickness, and a tenth of a millimeter is a very short distance - your variances on a deck-by-deck basis will probably be measured in whole millimeters.  Two: a deck that thick is made with some incredibly thick stock, probably not all that flexible.  For example, I measured a deck made with Expert PCC's Robusto stock at just over 17mm - that stuff is so thick, it makes casino grade look wimpy and it's difficult to bend for shuffling.  Be certain of the quality of the paper you're getting before committing to it in your project.

Hey, Don.  Again, thanks for the comments.  I always appreciate your insights.

Yeah.  I know this deck is pretty niche.  There was a team of five working on it, and consensus was to throw caution to the wind.  These guys consider themselves artists, and weren't afraid to try something completely new and untested.  Nobody's going to lose money if we can't raise what we need, so we're all pretty much just treating it like a grand adventure.

Thanks for the warning about the naked dwarf.  We actually already printed a dozen decks through MPC, so I'm hoping any objection they would have would have already been brought to our attention.  We also played with the cards and didn't notice any issue with the playability caused by the thickness.  But I will certainly take down the card stats so there isn't a problem if the actual cards are off.

Thanks also for the Artillary catch.  It was written correctly in the word doc, but apparently didn't translate to the cards (that's working with artists for you).

Again, I really do appreciate the resource you provide with this forum.  We knew nothing about creating a deck of cards going into this project, and this forum was a plethora of information.

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Hey, guys!

We finally launched the Kickstarter for our playing cards: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/catatomicstudios/cross-realms-playing-cards-fantasy-deck

We're mostly comic book guys, and we learned a lot reading the messages on this forum.  So thanks for creating such an invaluable resource.

Don gave a lot of good advice which I took back to my team, but ultimately the guys wanted to realize their specific vision.

I get the feeling our cards are going to appeal more toward the fantasy/RPG crowd than solid card collectors, but they were willing to take that chance.

I hope you check out the campaign and consider supporting the project.

Thanks again for all the great info on this board.




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Design & Development / Re: Cross Realms Playing Cards: Fantasy Edition
« on: December 07, 2015, 05:56:22 PM »
Thanks for all that, Don.

I appreciate the feedback.

I'll see what the team thinks.

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Design & Development / Cross Realms Playing Cards: Fantasy Edition
« on: December 03, 2015, 07:53:45 PM »
Hey, guys!

I've been lurking here for a while (and throwing out a question here and there - thanks for the replies, by the way), and I wanted to show some of the cards my team is working on.  I respect all of the opinions of you folks, and appreciate that you don't hold back when it comes to critique.

For Cross Realms, we kept the standard values of a 52 card deck (2-Ace), but swapped out the traditional suits (clubs, spades, diamonds and hearts) for fantasy races (Orcs, Elves, Dwarves and Humans).  We also added titles to the cards and flavor text to give it a bit of a TCG/CCG feel (even though it's intended to be used as a standard deck).  And unlike most other novelty decks that I've seen, we did character work for all 52 cards, not just the face cards.

Orcs


Elves


Dwarves


Humans


Thoughts?  Comments?  Criticisms?

Any and all replies are appreciated.

Thanks.

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Design & Development / Re: What Card Stock to Use?
« on: October 29, 2015, 07:08:46 PM »
Thank you, Don and KSI.

This forum is the best!

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Design & Development / What Card Stock to Use?
« on: October 28, 2015, 11:54:32 PM »
Hey, guys!

Is there a preferred card stock to use for playing cards (poker size)?

It looks like we'll be printing through makeplayingcards.com (because cost and convenience - and by all means, feel free to direct me to a better/comparable manufacturer), and they have several options:

270 gsm (promotional)
300 gsm (smooth)
330 gsm (superior smooth)
310 gsm (linen)
310 gsm (linen air)
Plastic (100%)

We're just looking to make a typical (playable) deck of cards, and not sure which stock to choose.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

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Design & Development / Re: Best Way to Mail a Deck?
« on: September 11, 2015, 06:58:06 PM »
Thanks, Rob and Don.

Great info.  I really appreciate it.

And Rob, I've run a couple of successful comic book Kickstarter campaigns, so I'm familiar with factoring in accurate shipping costs (not to mention the labor intensiveness of packaging rewards).  I have seen too many other campaigns implode because of the shipping issue (particularly international shipping).

Still good advice, though.  Thanks.

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Design & Development / Re: Best Way to Mail a Deck?
« on: September 10, 2015, 08:01:04 PM »
Some of the best packed stuff I've received was very simply packed.  Your choice of boxes is great - the smaller one will hold two decks at most.  A single deck is 2.5 x 3.5 x about 1 inches.  There's a clear plastic bubble "bag" I've seen people use for sending me stuff that's practically custom-tailored for decks - perfect size and has a sticky strip for sealing it shut.  Drop those in the box, use old newspaper to fill in the gaps and stop shifting, and your box should survive most typical mailing disasters.  Use clear packing tape and SEAL EVERY SINGLE EDGE WHERE THERE'S AN OPENING in order to the chance of anything getting snagged on your box and tearing it open.

Clear plastic bubble "bag."

Something like this? http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-7574/Bubble-Bags/3-x-5-Bubble-Bags-Open-End?keywords=S-7574%203%20x%205%22%20Bubble%20Bags%20Open%20End

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Design & Development / Re: Best Way to Mail a Deck?
« on: September 09, 2015, 11:20:59 PM »
Thanks for the responses, Fes and NineLives.

It seems like it will be easier to add bubble wrap inside a box, than cardboard inside a bubble mailer.

I'm looking at these two options:

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-15073/Indestructo-Mailers/4-x-3-x-1-Indestructo-Mailers

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-16610/Indestructo-Mailers/4-x-3-x-2-Kraft-Indestructo-Mailers

Any opinions?

Thanks.

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Design & Development / Re: Best Way to Mail a Deck?
« on: September 09, 2015, 07:25:31 PM »
If you're planning to ship more than just a few decks, better to go with a box and added padding.  Nothing will beat the protection a box will provide, but if you wrap your small deck shipments in cardboard before tossing them in the bubble mailer, you've essentially made a box in the bag, right?  :))  Best thing to remember, whatever method you're using, is that nothing should move or shift around inside - the less it moves around, the better the survival chances.

And if you ship internationally, forget the mailers.  Gotta use a box.  International mail takes a serious beatdown, especially when using First Class or below.  Anything less than a box is a gamble.  Wrap it like you're building a fortress!

Don,

We're planning on doing a Kickstarter for our deck and will be mailing out (hopefully) hundreds of decks.

Is there an easy way to pack them with the cardboard?

I'm quite used to cutting boxes for cardboard to sandwich comic books for mailing, and it is incredibly time intensive.  If there are any tricks (good sources of cardboard), firmer mailers, or good mailing boxes, I'm all ears.

Thanks.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Introducing Myself
« on: September 09, 2015, 07:16:23 PM »
Well, that certainly sounds like fun, too.

And my above statement should have read: (that was not a trading card game).

We are very much interested in doing a standard playing card deck (but with a little artistic and narrative flavor).

I'm hounding one of my artists to finish a card to show the forum and get some input.

Thanks, again.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Introducing Myself
« on: September 08, 2015, 08:12:03 PM »
Thanks, Don.

We are complete newbs when it comes to playing cards.  We mostly do comic books, but really wanted to do an art intensive card deck (that was not a trading card game).

Also, if you hit New York Comic Con, be sure to swing by the Darby Pop booth (2107) and say hi.  My new comic "Side-Kicked" is debuting at the con.

(edited to add "not" to the parenthetical)

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Design & Development / Re: Best Way to Mail a Deck?
« on: September 07, 2015, 07:20:22 PM »
Thanks to you both.  I appreciate the replies.

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Design & Development / Best Way to Mail a Deck?
« on: September 07, 2015, 01:38:39 PM »
What's the best (and/or cheapest) way to mail a standard size deck of playing cards (in a tuck box)?

I'm figuring a small bubble mailer, but wanted to check.

Thanks.

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Introduce Yourself / Introducing Myself
« on: September 07, 2015, 01:28:26 PM »
Hey, guys!

Russell from New York, here.

My art studio has spent the year designing a deck and I've been using this site as a "how-to."

Figured I'd join up and introduce myself as we near completion and I have some final questions.

Love the site.  Love the decks.  Glad a site like this exists.

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