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The Pasteboard Bazaar - Sales, Trades & In Search Of (STISO) / Re: [ISO] Theory11 Eleven Madison Park Monarchs
« on: February 13, 2020, 10:05:20 AM »I'm also want to get one EMP Monarchs and 144 limited Blue Gold Monarchs to be come a full set.Thanks! The person I was helping find a deck actually found an open deck for sale! A new deck also sold last month for $360 iirc. Those Blue Gold Monarchs are a tricky one. If you ever find one sealed, I would be very cautious. There is no way whatsoever to tell the difference between the 144 OG Monarchs and regular Blue Monarchs. Still, an open deck of those are still the freaking T11 Unicorn. Lol
Good Luck
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Actually, I was told there's exactly one way to tell the difference between the rare 144 Monarchs and the original wide-release Monarchs. I was told that the cellophane is reversed on the 144, so the tear strip goes in the other direction from standard - but don't quote me on that, because I've never actually seen a pack personally to know for certain.
That’s really interesting! It could be true, but like you said we’ve never fondled them so we wouldn’t know lol. One of T11’s execs handles comms on their forums, and he’s said a few times there’s no way to tell them apart. But I feel like true card nerds like us could find a difference, and that’s exactly what your info is. I wish we could know!!!
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Back in the day I was fortunate enough to snag 3 of the original 111 that went on pre-sale. I only have one now (the older me regrets selling the other two), but have attached some photos to look at if you are interested. I have not spent a lot of time in the card collecting community over the past while so I am unsure of what (if any) differences they may be on the package. Granted you'll have to take my word for it but I have also included my order record from T11 on pre-release day (minus editing out my home address). If there is a better angle I can take, just let me know and I will try to do that ASAP.
Cheers,
Curt
Now someone tell me if I'm wrong, but on that photo, when looking at the box from the front, the tear strip is on the right side of the box. For ordinary Monarchs, as is the case with nearly every USPC-made and -sealed deck, I'm pretty sure that the tear strip would appear on the LEFT side of the box when looking at the front of the box.
So maybe they cellophane is the way to know.
There's a caveat in there, though. It's not impossible to remove a deck from the cellophane, alter the contents (say, if you were a magician wanting to plant something in there, etc.) and then RESEAL the cellophane, making it look almost as good as new and certainly well enough to leave the tear strip intact. If someone can do that, they could make a "fake" Gold Monarch deck out of an ordinary pack, assuming they use a pack that was old enough to look like they did back in 2011. While they're very, very similar today, I'd bet with some scrutiny you'd be able to spot at least some differences between a 2011 Monarch tuck box and a 2019 tuck box - the copyright info if nothing else.
I wish I had some sealed Monarchs to check! I think you may be on to something here, Don. I’m curious enough to ask Lyle over on T11’s forum. They’ve made a great push on sharing as much as they can about little details for us card nerds
lol!
While I doubt they'd simply give them away, perhaps you could come to some kind of arrangement.