Again, many thanks for the reply.

I was using standard bikes. I am very new to card 'manipulation', not cards and play canasta, poker and bridge. However, the actual card 'play' always intrigued me and so, I started to experiment.

I thought nothing wrong with standard bikes but then I got hold of some 'turners'. I mean, for me, the difference was for the better.
Being on bee stock, I then go some bees for practice and found I liked the thicker stock.

I haven't moved outside of those finishes really and even my copag 310 decks are 'similar' in finish.

I 'DO' have hands the greasy side of right but not too bad. I can ruin a standard bike deck into zero fanning mode in around 3 hours of actual use. I really do like that rougher edge though and find lifts and counting 'easier', not easy yet....

I will powder another deck, 'carefully' as it must have been my in-experience causing the initial failure and perhaps trying to create a good deck from something way too far gone.

I'm no cardist, flourisher yet but, I'm trying to learn.

So, long story short, bought various stock to see what I like, played around, got 2 decks to the point where fanning without pressure simply didn't happen.

Purchased fanning powder from a UK supplier ( I won't say in case it breaks rules).

Decks were bikes, standard riders.

Into a plastic bag, a big one actually, 1/4 teaspoon powder into bag.

Shake. etc etc

Collected cards and collated. All cards are powdery now.

Riffled out excess.

Packets now stick like glue, fans are like, 3 to 5 leaf at best in clumps of 7 to 10 cards ?

So, clearly I've done something very wrong or I've added sugar powder.

This can't be normal right ?