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Evan · « **on:** December 16, 2011, 10:40:19 PM »

Some of the older Ellusionist decks are finally getting performance coating.
Heres a pic of the Red Masters decks! Someone posted this pic on twitter.

Joshua Robinson · « **Reply #1 on:** December 16, 2011, 10:48:00 PM »

awesome! but i have never felt performance coating

john · « **Reply #2 on:** December 16, 2011, 10:49:32 PM »

Quote from: FIVEofHEARTS on December 16, 2011, 10:48:00 PM

awesome! but i have never felt performance coating

Performance coating is also the magic finish BTW. So i am sure you have felt it before and just not realized it.

Also Evan nice find, maybe ill restock on some E decks sooner then i thought.

Joshua Robinson · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2011, 10:52:39 PM »

i know the other name is magic finish, but none of my decks have it

Evan · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2011, 10:53:20 PM »

Quote from: john on December 16, 2011, 10:49:32 PM

Quote from: FIVEofHEARTS on December 16, 2011, 10:48:00 PM
awesome! but i have never felt performance coating

Performance coating is also the magic finish BTW. So i am sure you have felt it before and just not realized it.

Also Evan nice find, maybe ill restock on some E decks sooner then i thought.

It may not be a 100% chance that you get the Performance Coating ones

john · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2011, 10:54:50 PM »

Quote from: ezstreet1997 on December 16, 2011, 10:53:20 PM

Quote from: john on December 16, 2011, 10:49:32 PM
Quote from: FIVEofHEARTS on December 16, 2011, 10:48:00 PM
awesome! but i have never felt performance coating

Performance coating is also the magic finish BTW. So i am sure you have felt it before and just not realized it.

Also Evan nice find, maybe ill restock on some E decks sooner then i thought.
It may not be a 100% chance that you get the Performance Coating ones

Well they have to reprint the deck to get the new finish, and they do large print runs, so its a good chance ill get the performance coating, and if not ill get uv500 air flow on the masters so its all good.

KPopFever605 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 16, 2011, 11:06:32 PM »

If you want a Performance Coating deck, get a deck in 2011, that's probably the earliest time where they have put those on. I just got my Shadow Masters with that deck - I love it!

Joshua Robinson · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2011, 11:10:43 PM »

all my decks i have bought in 2011!

Don Boyer · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:29:37 AM »

Quote from: FIVEofHEARTS on December 16, 2011, 11:10:43 PM

all my decks i have bought in 2011!

I believe he meant decks released in 2011. Those are pretty much guaranteed to have Performance Coating.

Here's the best guess as to how many UV500 decks are left.

http://arethereanyuv500decksleft.com/

Most if not all of the deck not on this list are now using Perf Coat on their new print runs. The only exception I know if is the blue 1800s, and that may no longer be true.

If only we had someone at E who could chime in on this topic... (coughMARCUScoughJAKEcough...)

phantom1412 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2011, 03:31:33 AM »

E told me that the link isn't theirs. So, the numbers might not be accurated.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2011, 04:27:25 AM »

The guy who maintains the site is on the Discourse, I think. He checks in to see what stock remains for decks still being issued with UV500 Air-Flow stock/finish by adding large numbers to his shopping cart, seeing where it maxes out, then emptying the cart. Seems to be reasonably accurate, at least for a ballpark figure.

phantom1412 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2011, 04:32:13 AM »

Quote from: Good@Sabacc on December 17, 2011, 04:27:25 AM

The guy who maintains the site is on the Discourse, I think. He checks in to see what stock remains for decks still being issued with UV500 Air-Flow stock/finish by adding large numbers to his shopping cart, seeing where it maxes out, then emptying the cart. Seems to be reasonably accurate, at least for a ballpark figure.

Oh, understood, thank you for clearing up.
Actually we should have similar thing on D&D's decks. LoL
I just noticed that the V6 was 69 bricks before, but now they put the maximum 12 bricks in.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2011, 04:48:04 AM »

Yeah, I imagine they don't want customers crying foul when one aftermarket seller swoops in and buys the entire stock in a single purchase!

moonexe · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2011, 05:10:12 AM »

Could anyone enlighten me as to what the difference between these two coatings is exactly?
The performance coating is the same as a tally-ho deck, right?
Is UV500 an Ellusionist exclusive?

Gunshy1 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2011, 10:40:22 AM »

no, tallys do not use performance coating. idk what the difference is, but i am sure that someone on here does.

as for the uv600 airflo it WAS an E only stock and finish, but they no longer are able to use it.

John B. · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2011, 12:14:32 PM »

my green and blue artifice have that finish my masters has the uv one and i think my others just have what they normally have.

Marcus · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2011, 12:47:04 PM »

The Infinity, LTD, Gold Arcane and all the Artifice versions and colors are all 100% guaranteed to be printed with the Performance Coating finish. The Shadow Masters, white and black Arcane decks, red 1800's have been reprinted with the Performance Coating finish and should most likely be of that finish if you order, but there might be one or two decks of the old finish left that can end up in your package. I've only heard that happen once so far, but I'll still mention it. The red Masters deck has obviously been reprinted too, but I don't know whether or not we have any decks with the old finish left in stock as I haven't had time to check it out.

Lushbob · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:31:07 PM »

I didn't know that the 1800s were UV500 finish! They don't feel like it to me. Weird.

Evan · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2011, 04:05:38 PM »

Quote from: Lushbob on December 17, 2011, 02:31:07 PM

I didn't know that the 1800s were UV500 finish! They don't feel like it to me. Weird.

UV500 is the stock, not the finish but yes, they originally had it

Lushbob · « **Reply #19 on:** December 17, 2011, 04:09:18 PM »

Quote from: ezstreet1997 on December 17, 2011, 04:05:38 PM

UV500 is the stock, not the finish but yes, they originally had it

Damnit, I always forget that UV500 is the stock. I'll remember that. Does it say that anywhere on the box?

Collector · « **Reply #20 on:** December 17, 2011, 04:14:51 PM »

Quote from: ezstreet1997 on December 16, 2011, 10:40:19 PM

Some of the older Ellusionist decks are finally getting performance coating.
Heres a pic of the Red Masters decks! Someone posted this pic on twitter.

For accuracy: https://twitter.com/#!/PlayingCardBlog/status/147336431239569408

moonexe · « **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2011, 05:23:50 PM »

So, what stock are the new masters made of then?

john · « **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2011, 05:47:23 PM »

Quote from: Moon.exe on December 17, 2011, 05:23:50 PM

So, what stock are the new masters made of then?

If i had to guess it would be bicycle casino stock.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2011, 12:23:22 AM »

Quote from: john on December 17, 2011, 05:47:23 PM

Quote from: Moon.exe on December 17, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
So, what stock are the new masters made of then?

If i had to guess it would be bicycle casino stock.

Is there such a thing as "Bicycle casino stock"?

The only thing I can say with certainty is that like most Ellusionist decks, the Masters are made of a stock that's heavier/thicker than standard Bicycle stock. Some knock how they handle for this, but I've never had much trouble (except for the old Series 1800 decks). It's why when you order a Porper deck clip from E, you're given the option of "for Ellusionist decks" or "for standard decks".

Evan · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2011, 10:40:17 AM »

Quote from: Good@Sabacc on December 18, 2011, 12:23:22 AM

Quote from: john on December 17, 2011, 05:47:23 PM
Quote from: Moon.exe on December 17, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
So, what stock are the new masters made of then?

If i had to guess it would be bicycle casino stock.

Is there such a thing as "Bicycle casino stock"?

The only thing I can say with certainty is that like most Ellusionist decks, the Masters are made of a stock that's heavier/thicker than standard Bicycle stock. Some knock how they handle for this, but I've never had much trouble (except for the old Series 1800 decks). It's why when you order a Porper deck clip from E, you're given the option of "for Ellusionist decks" or "for standard decks".

I'm pretty sure theres a difference between the standard bicycle stock and the Bicycle Casino Stock.
And I think that most E decks have Bicycle Casino stock now.