[ISO] Labelexpo Multimiller Gargoyles Deck

[Lushbob]

I've been interested in this deck for a while. It was a limited edition deck that Lance T. Miller made for his Gargoyles deck; a prototype deck, of sorts. I'm not sure why it was made as a Labelexpo deck. I'm guessing it was given away at Labelexpo or something.
It comes with a thick plastic covering showing some art on it instead of cellophane. The card backs are the same as the normal Gargoyles deck, just a lot darker. The faces all show normal Bicycle faces instead of the finished faces, except for the Ace of Spades which is the same as the finished version although, again, a lot darker.
Lance sold them on his website for $5 each, although they're sold out now. I've contacted him multiple times through the Contact section of his website, but I have not received any reply from him.
I'm really looking to get hold of this deck, so if any of you have it, or can tell me where I could purchase it, that'd be great.
Of course, I'd love to get it at the original price of $5, but I doubt I'll find that deal anywhere. So I'd be willing to go up to $20. Thanks.

[loldudex2]

I've been interested in this deck for a while. It was a limited edition deck that Lance T. Miller made for his Gargoyles deck; a prototype deck, of sorts. I'm not sure why it was made as a Labelexpo deck. I'm guessing it was given away at Labelexpo or something.
It comes with a thick plastic covering showing some art on it instead of cellophane. The card backs are the same as the normal Gargoyles deck, just a lot darker. The faces all show normal Bicycle faces instead of the finished faces, except for the Ace of Spades which is the same as the finished version although, again, a lot darker.
Lance sold them on his website for $5 each, although they're sold out now. I've contacted him multiple times through the Contact section of his website, but I have not received any reply from him.
I'm really looking to get hold of this deck, so if any of you have it, or can tell me where I could purchase it, that'd be great.
Of course, I'd love to get it at the original price of $5, but I doubt I'll find that deal anywhere. So I'd be willing to go up to $20. Thanks.

I'm sorry to break it to you, but I don't think $20 will be enough. Now I don't have one, but I was on one of Lance's live shows when he was developing the Actuators, and he was talking to someone, and Lance and the other guy were talking about how those decks were fetching upwards of $150 a deck. I think it's crazy, and I wish you the best, but I just want to let you know it will be very difficult to get one for that price.

[Lushbob]

I'm sorry to break it to you, but I don't think $20 will be enough. Now I don't have one, but I was on one of Lance's live shows when he was developing the Actuators, and he was talking to someone, and Lance and the other guy were talking about how those decks were fetching upwards of $150 a deck. I think it's crazy, and I wish you the best, but I just want to let you know it will be very difficult to get one for that price.

Wow! Ouch. I didn't see that coming. Thanks for letting me know. I doubt I'll be getting one now...
But still, if anyone can show me someone or someplace that has one to sell, that'd be useful. Cheers.

[xela]

A couple months ago, Lance offered me the deck for I believe $99. They go for about $150 on eBay now I think. I was lucky enough to snag one from DelMagic in one of his variety box deals, for about $50.

Come to think of it, a lot of my favorite decks are from him.

[sinsandman]

Lance is holding onto I know at least one of these decks that he would sell for the right amount. Otherwise, you will be hard up to find lower than $150.

[Lushbob]

Wow, I had no idea that this deck fetched such a high price. No wonder it was so hard to find. Thanks for explaining, guys. I must have sounded like a right idiot, wanting it for $20. 
Also, Alex, who's DelMagic?

[Don Boyer]

The Expo deck was made for a design expo, and won a design award there, if I'm not mistaken.  The deck is very much like the release version of the Gargoyles, but there's no metallic ink and the cards are PLASTIC, not paper.  It's why they appear to be darker.  I had the chance to get them at face value but let it slip.  C'est la guerre...

[Lushbob]

The Expo deck was made for a design expo, and won a design award there, if I'm not mistaken.  The deck is very much like the release version of the Gargoyles, but there's no metallic ink and the cards are PLASTIC, not paper.  It's why they appear to be darker.  I had the chance to get them at face value but let it slip.  C'est la guerre...

Ah, okay. That explains it. And yeah, I heard about the plastic cards. Apparently there have been reports of these cards shattering! That would suck so bad.
Man, how did you miss that chance? You must be pretty pissed. I'm glad that I didn't even know about the Gargoyles decks until all the Expo decks had been sold out - at least I know that I didn't think 'Oh, that's just $5 so it'll be crap.' and miss a great chance. I started collecting 3 or 4 years ago, but stopped after about a  year due to money and family issues. To be honest, it was actually the Vortex deck that brought me back to collecting. It's a shame that I missed the stuff like White Centurions, Brown Wynn's, Red Artfice and all that, though. But hey, I'm back now, and I plan to not miss any more of the interesting new releases.

[Don Boyer]

Ah, okay. That explains it. And yeah, I heard about the plastic cards. Apparently there have been reports of these cards shattering! That would suck so bad.
Man, how did you miss that chance? You must be pretty pissed. I'm glad that I didn't even know about the Gargoyles decks until all the Expo decks had been sold out - at least I know that I didn't think 'Oh, that's just $5 so it'll be crap.' and miss a great chance. I started collecting 3 or 4 years ago, but stopped after about a  year due to money and family issues. To be honest, it was actually the Vortex deck that brought me back to collecting. It's a shame that I missed the stuff like White Centurions, Brown Wynn's, Red Artfice and all that, though. But hey, I'm back now, and I plan to not miss any more of the interesting new releases.

I'm not surprised to hear about shattering cards.  They were a proof-of-concept deck, never really intended as a production model.  When I was younger, I had a few Kem decks that ended up on the heap because cards cracked and I was too lazy to go for replacements.  The worst was when I brought them to a poker night and the guys took it as an opportunity to slam the cards as hard to the table as they could when they got caught up in showdown.


As far as missing out, I don't feel like I lost much.  I like cards but I'm not obsessed, and I like them for using as well as for being beautifully made.  It was poker and magic that pushed me into collecting, and I keep it in control.  Hence my laissez-faire attitude in my remarks...
 

[Lushbob]

I'm not surprised to hear about shattering cards.  They were a proof-of-concept deck, never really intended as a production model.  When I was younger, I had a few Kem decks that ended up on the heap because cards cracked and I was too lazy to go for replacements.  The worst was when I brought them to a poker night and the guys took it as an opportunity to slam the cards as hard to the table as they could when they got caught up in showdown.

As far as missing out, I don't feel like I lost much.  I like cards but I'm not obsessed, and I like them for using as well as for being beautifully made.  It was poker and magic that pushed me into collecting, and I keep it in control.  Hence my laissez-faire attitude in my remarks...
 

Yeah, me neither. But it would certainly be pretty annoying for that to happen to a deck of these Expo Gargoyles. Guess it just teaches you to care of your cards!

Yeah, I'm not really that bothered either. They'd be nice to add to my collection, but there are other decks, and to be honest, a lot of the rarer decks don't look all that amazing, compared to some of the other, much cheaper decks. So, I tend to go with them. Partly to do with their look, and partly the price. So, unless an outstandingly beautful deck of cards completely misses me, I don't think I'll be that bothered. I was mainly interested in this deck because I think the Gargoyles look amazing, so it'd be nice to see the prototype deck, and at least own a bit of the work that was a precursor to the finished product.
And for me, it was most certainly magic that pushed me into collecting. But now, I do a lot less magic, and a lot more collecting... But I've only got about 60 decks. Didn't I hear somewhere that you had nearer to 800 decks?

[Don Boyer]

Let me count my open packs right now...


I just counted THREE HUNDRED TWENTY-SEVEN decks open or slated to be opened.  These are plain, ordinary playing cards.  There are VERY FEW multiple copies of a single deck open; most are the only one open of their kind.  This doesn't count my reserve decks - I have at least one spare of almost ever deck I possess.  This also doesn't count my collection of magic decks - gaffs, strippers, Svengalis, Mirages, marked and other non-standard variants meant for magicians.  Three of my decks actually have about a HUNDRED spares on hand, because I bought a gross-and-a-half of uncanceled casino decks in three colors - half-gross per color.  I've given away nearly half of that supply, and continue to do so each time I visit the hospital to entertain the kids.


I'll update the estimate - it's probably closer to 900.   

[Lushbob]

Wow. That's still a huge collection. And doubles of almost every deck? Impressive. I've only got doubles of a handful of decks, ignoring the rider backs.
I'm pretty impressed. Sounds like you've got yourself a nice little collection there! And about 300 uncancelled casino decks? Wow. I've never even seen an uncancelled casino deck for sale on the internet. Although to be honest, I haven't even begun looking.
But that sounds like an awesome collection. I look forward to some pictures of it. Will you be doing a video of it aswell?

[Don Boyer]

I'll probably stick to stills.  And I don't have 300 casino decks.  I started with a gross (144) and a half (72), giving me 216 decks.  Of that supply, I've given away or destroyed nearly half.  But yes, they're uncanceled.  The quality's not so great; they're Gemacos from before the USPC takeover.  To be fair, though, they were likely sitting in a hot warehouse for the past ten years, which can't be good for performance.

[Lushbob]

All right. And sorry, I thought you said that you had a hundred spares of each of three decks. But yeah, I see what you meant now. And you're already down to half of the original amount! Wow. How much did the gross-and-a-half cost you?

[Don Boyer]

I paid less than fifty cents a deck including shipping.  They were going REALLY cheap on eBay.  Someone acquired some of the bankrupt casino cruise line's assets and was selling them off fast and cheap.

[Lushbob]

I paid less than fifty cents a deck including shipping.  They were going REALLY cheap on eBay.  Someone acquired some of the bankrupt casino cruise line's assets and was selling them off fast and cheap.

Wow! Good thing you caught the deal then! That's insanely cheap!