@Nathan: I like the ideas, I still don't know if the second ten should be completely blurry? Also, are you trying to make some of your faces black and some white? Kind of like a reverse Artifice v1?
Also, here is a revision of my back - the D's can be switched to make it a two way back. For all you 'subtle one-way' back lovers, the red D in the middle makes it a subtle one way.
A one-way mark in the center of a card usually isn't subtle - it's noticeable. I had someone spot the one-way on the Bicycle XXX deck seconds after they looked at it. My suggestion: a truly subtle one way, or none at all. Make the center "D" into a red dot, black dot, infinity symbol, four-pointed star, etc. and you can make this a true two-way deck.
For your question, yes, I am.
I really like that back, Derek! Can you just try moving the +s around so the red D is exactly in the corner. Please? Pretty please? I just think that it would just look so much nicer when fanning the cards. Other than that, I think it is perfect!
I agree on the red D's being pushed as far to the corners as possible. Stretch the image a few percentage points while maintaining the "stinger-style" border. Stretch the length in proportion to the width and the "structural integrity" of the image itself should not be too badly affected, especially since we're not talking about a huge change. If width stretching becomes and issue, see what removing or adding some of the vertical or horizontal center lines of crosses does. If the extra black "D" at the bottom is an issue when spelling DISCOURSE, just make it a black dot or something, or invert the bottom "D".
Pushing the red "D"s as far into the corner as possible gives you the opportunity to make some sweet-looking fans with this back design.
Regarding your 10's, Nathan, remember we're aiming for usability with the deck - having some cards print to the bleed and others not creates the problem of the bleed cards being distinctive in a squared-up deck to the point that you can point them out. Since we're going with a white-bordered back and we want back and front to match, we should stick with a white-bordered front. White works better I think, since everyone knows how quickly the edges of a black card get ruined with simple shuffling.
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Beautiful! They look really cool! But I just think the Q is a little weird looking. Looks like an odd 2...
Yeah I know what you're saying. I'll try to make it look more Queenish but widening the circle part and making the point closer.
Actually, you're still missing the "1" and "0" to make 10.
To improve the Q, try making a nearly-closed circle, with the gap where the line crosses the circle. The line won't actually touch the circle and the design will be in line with what you're doing with the rest of the characters.
I'm really very impressed with how this entire group project is pulling together. I've seen many similar projects simply get torn apart at the seams due to conflicting visions and egos, but you people are keeping it together and making something worthwhile out of it. It's a real accomplishment.
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