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Evan · « **Reply #725 on:** February 22, 2012, 04:38:40 PM »

I like Version C the best. The colors really pop

Aaron · « **Reply #726 on:** February 22, 2012, 05:20:31 PM »

Quote from: dee1orean on February 22, 2012, 04:35:23 PM

Derek, that back design is awesome, the colour is spot on and I think it should be left as is,

A lot of people on here are like:

You should do this blah blah,

I'd like to see this Blah blah,

Reality check people.

You've entrusted Derek to design the back, the designs he's posted throughout this thread have been brilliant yet theres alway at least one of you that has to stick your two cents in I'd find it demoralising to constantly have my designs, not criticised exactly but if I were Derek I'd feel my designs were never good enough.

Nathan you are the worst for this, you may be heading up this project, but this is not YOUR deck, it is a collaborative effort between Discourse members if enough members are happy with this design then let it be, otherwise if you keep asking for changes it will never get done.

Randy, those Sixes are frickin awesome dude!!!

Sorry if it seemed I was being picky. I was just trying to give a few suggestions. Personally I think we should just keep it how it is right now and it will be good.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #727 on:** February 22, 2012, 06:05:07 PM »

@Dee1orean - The idea was for every card to be however the artist intended it to be, but the back design to fit everyone. If it weren't for constructive criticism, the back design wouldn't be where it is now. I am just making suggestions, nothing less, nothing more. I do realize I am not the best at leading this project, but if it weren't for me, this project wouldn't even exist. I have maybe spent 3 hours a day on average on this project, and I have tuned in to the best of my abilities. If you aren't happy, you can find a better solution.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #728 on:** February 22, 2012, 06:05:41 PM »

@Randy - I really like that other six!!! Nice job!

dmbaggs · « **Reply #729 on:** February 22, 2012, 07:14:28 PM »

I think option C looks the best!! It's my favorite back design and it looks great in the spread. You should change the poll so that we can vote on those three options

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #730 on:** February 22, 2012, 07:26:50 PM »

@Aaron - I like the idea of a calendar. I will change it when I have the time.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #731 on:** February 22, 2012, 07:28:36 PM »

I have changed and reopened the poll. Please vote!

dee1orean · « **Reply #732 on:** February 22, 2012, 07:51:11 PM »

Quote from: NathanCanadas on February 22, 2012, 06:05:07 PM

@Dee1orean - The idea was for every card to be however the artist intended it to be, but the back design to fit everyone. If it weren't for constructive criticism, the back design wouldn't be where it is now. I am just making suggestions, nothing less, nothing more. I do realize I am not the best at leading this project, but if it weren't for me, this project wouldn't even exist. I have maybe spent 3 hours a day on average on this project, and I have tuned in to the best of my abilities. If you aren't happy, you can find a better solution.

Nathan, I don't doubt your commitment to the project, I wouldn't want to do it, However look at your quote above specifically, "The back design to fit everyone". that's exactly my point. a leader needs to listen. look at all the posts after the current back design was posted the MAJORITY approved the design, then you posted:

Quote from: NathanCanadas on February 22, 2012, 04:13:29 PM

I thought it over and here's what I think. I do like the C better in fans, but we need to make sure it looks nice when holding a single card in our hand.
Also, I think we should do some changes to the "Discourse" running along the side. I just think it looks kinda awkward on version C. Maybe we could make the color a bit more turquoise-ish.
Finally, I really liked the little shape in the center of back B. Maybe we could put two Ds back to back, kinda like for D&D S&Ms.
I think version C is the way to go but I think it still needs some subtle changes. Also, @
Derek, why is it so pixelated?

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YOU want to change the colour
YOU want two D's in the middle of the deck (something way to similar to Dan and Dave)

The only valid constructive comment there about the pixellation.

The MAJORITY approved or are happy with the design then you want to change it quite drastically, that's not collaborating, that's dictating.

The back design ticks all the right boxes for a lot of people. Let it be, otherwise as I said above it will never get finished. You can't please all the people, the best you can hope for is to please most of them.

This Deck is looking awesome, it really is, I said in an earlier post I was very dubious about this project, but it really is moving forward brilliantly..

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #733 on:** February 22, 2012, 08:03:17 PM »

I didn't WANT anything. I was just suggesting some stuff. The majority of people INCLUDING ME like this back the best BUT wanted some minor changes such as the font/color of discourse running along the side. I also wanted this. The only additional thing I wanted was the Ds in the middle which Don Boyer, a very trusted member of AC, had suggested.

dee1orean · « **Reply #734 on:** February 22, 2012, 08:37:19 PM »

After the back design was posted, ONE member did not like the colour of the whole back, and ONE Member (YOU) wanted to change the colour/font of the discourse. Everyone else was happy with this back design Don included.

Im trying to urge you to make a final decision, Not just because I like this back design but because this has been going on for ages now.

Also look back through all your posts and see how often you've posted the words "I Think" I think (oops) you'll be surprised, I was going to post about it earlier, but thought you'd get over it.

Criticism is one of the hardest things to accept, I know, I'm awful at accepting it myself.

I'm not going to post about this issue anymore, if you decide to settle on this back don't do it to appease me, do it because it's what the members of The Discourse want.

I've been following this project closely and shall continue to do so.

Good luck everyone!!!

Derek · « **Reply #735 on:** February 22, 2012, 09:18:08 PM »

Thank you dee1orean, honestly that's how i've been feeling. I post a design and I appreciate all the criticism. Most people say they love it, and then Nathan and 1-2 others want me to change something. I love the C design. I'll tweak it so that the shapes are more even and not stretched but definitely no red letters. Definitely not adding a design amongst it. I don't really like the two d idea because like you said, Dan and Dave already did that. It looks awesome in the fan and id say 9 out of 10 people will be happy. That's good enough for me

Hopefully it's good enough for everyone else. The main focus will be on the faces anyways, every one being unique. LETS GO!

moonexe · « **Reply #736 on:** February 22, 2012, 09:22:29 PM »

Version C as it is. The less changes the better. I think the poll is going that way, too.

Nathan, stop trying to justify yourself, you're really just making it worse. Everyone seems to be satisfied with the current design and you're the only one who wants so many changes.
Stop now, and everything will be fine.

Lara Krystle "Lane" · « **Reply #737 on:** February 23, 2012, 12:37:36 AM »

VC gave me an Aethergasm! <3 it! that is my vote

Derek · « **Reply #738 on:** February 23, 2012, 01:17:42 AM »

Hahaha, I'm glad you guys like it

FYI, it's only pixelated because it was a screenshot. The actual file is high quality

Aaron · « **Reply #739 on:** February 23, 2012, 01:19:33 AM »

Quote from: Derek on February 23, 2012, 01:17:42 AM

Hahaha, I'm glad you guys like it FYI, it's only pixelated because it was a screenshot. The actual file is high quality

Ok that is awesome. Very nice designs Derek.

dmbaggs · « **Reply #740 on:** February 23, 2012, 01:54:18 AM »

So it looks like option c is the best. I would post the design and ask people if they are happy with it and then if they are just finalize that. I think option C is good and we could call the back design all done!

kensei777 · « **Reply #741 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:35:13 AM »

No complaints there. I was the one that cast the none of the above vote but I actually like option C as well. The reason I didn't pick was because I trust Derek with the back. Whether he does or does not apply any changes to it, I'd leave that to him. He's done an excellent job so far anyway. Besides but correct me if I'm wrong, if I remember correctly, he's the one in charge of digitizing the raw images so if he gets stuck with the backs then wouldn't this deck stall as well?

Evan · « **Reply #742 on:** February 23, 2012, 10:06:07 AM »

Quote from: Aaron on February 23, 2012, 01:19:33 AM

Quote from: Derek on February 23, 2012, 01:17:42 AM
Hahaha, I'm glad you guys like it FYI, it's only pixelated because it was a screenshot. The actual file is high quality
Ok that is awesome. Very nice designs Derek.

Ok good, it didn't look as good.
Can you upload the high quality one?

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #743 on:** February 23, 2012, 12:38:34 PM »

Ok, sry Derek. I don't know what got into me, trying to impose my opinion on everyone. I was just trying to help. I think I should know better. Apparently, the main opinion is Option C with changes or not, depending on what Derek wishes.
I am going to put a poll on the dead-line for having our designs finished. Do you think this would be a good idea?

loldudex2 · « **Reply #744 on:** February 23, 2012, 01:32:15 PM »

Quote from: NathanCanadas on February 23, 2012, 12:38:34 PM

Ok, sry Derek. I don't know what got into me, trying to impose my opinion on everyone. I was just trying to help. I think I should know better. Apparently, the main opinion is Option C with changes or not, depending on what Derek wishes.
I am going to put a poll on the dead-line for having our designs finished. Do you think this would be a good idea?

As long as its not too soon. I'd rather have a great deck put out in a year, then an ok deck put out a few months. I feel if we just keep working hard on it, we will do fine, but there is no purpose to try to hurry us up, because that increases rushed design.

Do we need deadlines? Yes to make sure people are working.

Should we hurry this up and rush it? No not at all.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #745 on:** February 23, 2012, 02:33:25 PM »

Quote from: loldudex2 on February 23, 2012, 01:32:15 PM

Quote from: NathanCanadas on February 23, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
Ok, sry Derek. I don't know what got into me, trying to impose my opinion on everyone. I was just trying to help. I think I should know better. Apparently, the main opinion is Option C with changes or not, depending on what Derek wishes.
I am going to put a poll on the dead-line for having our designs finished. Do you think this would be a good idea?

As long as its not too soon. I'd rather have a great deck put out in a year, then an ok deck put out a few months. I feel if we just keep working hard on it, we will do fine, but there is no purpose to try to hurry us up, because that increases rushed design.

Do we need deadlines? Yes to make sure people are working.

Should we hurry this up and rush it? No not at all.

I completely agree. But do you think I should put the poll right away, or wait for more people to vote on this one?

xZEROx · « **Reply #746 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:03:06 PM »

Keep the poll. It wouldn't hurt having more people vote right?
I chose option C, but with minor tweaks. I like the colouring and the simplicity in it, but I wasn't really into the whole "D" on the back with the Discourse. I know we're trying to put something that others could recognize it as our deck. But the words on the back design somewhat breaks the elegance of it. Maybe put "Discourse" on AoS or the Joker instead?
Just my two cents.

Derek · « **Reply #747 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:33:54 PM »

Thanks for the support guys. I tried changing the color a tad but I really like it. I also changed the DISCOURSE lettering on the sides to black to match the rest. I think if I kept it a color or something, it would distract from the overall design. I like that the lettering is subtle and one might not even notice it at first.

Here is the final design UNLESS someone comes up with a good suggestion to change it.

NathanCanadas · « **Reply #748 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:38:31 PM »

@Derek - That looks amazing! It truly does! I think this is, by far, the best! I just had one question: will the D in the middle of the back make a subtle one-way back design or are we going to change it so it is truly 2 way?

Derek · « **Reply #749 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:47:26 PM »

Not sure if you can tell but there isn't a D in the exact middle. The middle part is 4 D's wide, two facing one way, two facing the other, alternating. Thus - two way back

ALSO ON A SIDE NOTE, I HAVE ACCUMULATED A WOPPING GRAND TOTAL OF ONE SIGNITURE FOR THE AoS. Now that i'm done with the back, I'll focus on the Ace but i need signatures people. Go to my other thread, I bumped it to the top, if your name isn't on the list and you're working on the deck, post your name. THEN email me your signature on a white sheet of paper written in sharpie. Can be a cell phone pic of scan. DerkPhotography@gmail.com

Thanks

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What is your opinion regarding the extra card w/credits?

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