So for those of you that missed out on the fairly lengthy session that was just held over the tubes of the interwebs on that place with all the faces and books, here's the recap in all of it's glory. I've left last names out for privacy reasons. I've only left names in where appropriate.The-Con-Artist.comYou asked for it, you got it! Personally the suicide king is killer, but this is a WIKID design as well. With the standard concept of original court cards, blended with a modern twist and new age look and feel. The King of Spades is not the court card with the full reveal of the projects name, but everyone gave it a good try. The name is actually hidden within the Queen of Hearts gown. So when you get your pack, be on the look out for all the hidden details and sayings as they might just lead you to something amazing!~TCAC
MoonyWow. Looks very nice. Can't wait to get my hands on the deck ;P
Matthew Lee KeithWTF... This thing keeps sliding off the wall. Need better glue!
http://matthewleekeith.com/random/ytbn_deck_theconartist.pngRobertHey, Con Artist, I hope your not paying for this art because my 6 year old son and 3 year old daughter are even laughing. They might be willing to pull out there markers and give you a hand with this if you ask nicely. LMFAO
NathanWow. Ridiculous design.
CodyI think the criticism that has come out is overlooking the fact that this is much larger than the actual cards, which will minimize most of matts criticisms.... I think the blue is the only that will really stand and some line weights.... I
...See MoreCodyI did notice the card wasn't symetrical, the upside down gun touches the line while the rightside up shotgun does not.... I kind of like this, while I think others will get bent about that too.
Shane CarterI also think its funny that the people posting the negative stuff is actually Lance Millers friends. Hmmmm his deck looks an awful lot like an iPhone settings button, but who am I to judge?
Lance T. MillerShane, many people that are my friends are here because of my supporting The-Con-Artist when it was just a name. It therefore, is completely possible that many of my "Facebook Friends" do not see eye to eye with you on your design. Does that mean you should pull shots with me? I think you may want to re-consider.
CodyI love lance miller's design, and I found this page because of his liking it.... I don't hate this design either.
Matthew Lee KeithActually the iphone Settings button looks nothing like what lance designed other than the fact that it's a similar object. Next!
http://markystar.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/tumblr_lp46bj5z071qhuqgx.jpgRobertShane, it has nothing to do with anyone knowing Lance T. Miller. It does have a lot to do with your inability to deal with your traffic & work seriously. I honestly doubt any of you guys have taken a look in the mirror and asked “yes I ca
...See MoreStephenWho ate all the pies?
Matthew Lee KeithI'd also like to address the "friends of Lance" comment. I call bullshit on that because this is a COMMUNITY. Anyone worth the time of day knows each other. Lance has many friends because he's worked for those friends and gained those frien
...See MoreCodyI may have missed all the hoopla, but to be fair Matt there is a right way to offer criticism to others... I mean obviously this deck has a few flaws but if I were as knowledgeable and skilled as you I would have gone about it in a more constructive way.... Not sure if there was already some bad blood... just saying...
CodyBut I personally was offended by the Lance Miller comment because his decks are amazing, and I think anyone who looks into starting a new custom deck should have the ability to appreciate those who have done so successfully.
Jayi am sorry to interject but if lance miller decks have grown to make a following the way the have then good for them i think it is sad that most of you guys are downgrading the fact that they have proved to u all that they have stuff in the
...See MoreMikeThis is horrible...just my opinion...I'm not buying these at all lol..."Worlds best deck of cards!"? I disagree, lmfao
Matthew Lee KeithI've been watching like a hawk for a first look at art from this deck since TCAC claimed it would be better than the Actuators. I was the one who won the contest for coming up with the name for the Actuators deck, and I've been very interes
...See MoreLance T. MillerJay, you bring up a very valid point. When my Gargoyles first hit the community scene, they were trashed and ill-regarded. Instead of lashing out at possible culprits, I thanked the community for it's feedback and went back to the drawing board. I have had many people tear up my design work and try to make me feel like crap. It's how you deal with criticism that counts.
Shane CarterLance it just looks weird that all the negative comments come from people saying they are good friends of yours. I myself have followed you from day 1. I feel most of the comments here are unjust and meant to hurt your possible competition and weird right after they posted it you said you can't stop laughing...really you support TCAC or is your ego that large?
RobertJay? You say lets let the deck speak for its self? Well thats what this is all about. They posted a court card and its hardly been given the time it deserves. Read everything and stop being bias.
CodyI agree 100% with you matt... you just could have been a little more constructive with the offering...
Lance T. MillerWow bro, I was laughing at the youtube videos I was watching, go look at my thread. If you have a bad conscience because of it, that's yours to deal with bro.
Lance T. MillerP.S. to Cody, Matt doesn't hold back. He does that to my designs all the time. He is one of my most go-to guys when I think I've done something viable. He tears it down, breaks it apart, and hands it back to me. That's the type of dude he is.
Matthew Lee KeithIn all seriousness, as brash as it may have been, I gave my review the same amount of time I felt that had been given to the design of the card.
Please take my suggestions seriously. Make the changes and repost. I have no problem stating that improvements are made and that the new version is better. Just do the work :)
CodyI can dig that matt... I would agree 100% if the designer takes your criticism to heart and makes the changes this deck would be phenomenal... and I suppose I was trying to spare some feelings, but I know its not personal.... I am just the kind of guy that tries to avoid creating conflicts that aren't needed
Matthew Lee KeithIt's true, I did offer Lance the same level of criticism. If you can separate yourself from the design and not take it personally, you could benefit from this greatly.
I've trained my eye to find and scrutinize important details. If I really wanted to be an asshold, I could have done far worse, trust me.
Lance T. Millerasshole*
Matthew Lee Keith...
Matthew Lee KeithSo much for that "scrutinize important details" bit... Gawldammut!
Codybut I like the carbon fiber...... fits the theme more than the font.
Elsewhere in the tubes this appeared on Lance's Deck page on facebook. Now to be fair, the post was made from a company page that did not link to the actual The-Con-Artist.com page on facebook, this one was clearly made for this post alone, as when the post was made from this account it said the page was created 10 minutes prior. I'll let the public scrutinize over what that means and I'll provide no bias in either direction other than provide the words that were written...Real Page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Con-ArtistCom/330147213678457Page That Made The Posts:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Con-ArtistCom/352348668145023The-Con-Artist.ComFUCK YOU LANCE T MILLER! YOU WILL GET YOURS! JUST WAIT, OUR CARDS WILL PUT YOU OUT IN THE COLD AND ALL YOU WILL HAVE IS US TO FALL BACK ON! BITCH! FUCK YOU AND YOUR FAN BASE!
Matthew Lee KeithWow... So this was really professional. Forget it. Don't take my help. You've damned yourself and anyone associated with the TCAC name. Good luck with your future endeavors TCAC. You'll need it, because without professionalism, you've got nothing else.
The-Con-Artist.ComFUCK YOU
So, that's been pretty much the highlights of tonight, I'll return you to your regularly scheduled forum threads. Adieu!
