Ok so I thought Id continue this little argument with bmpokerworld and others here.
No I have actually handled them and I am not impressed. In fact if they were so good, I would have people clamoring for me to stock them which has not happened. I do not make wild allegations about products without first hand knowledge. The real point was he is, in my opinion, making an inferior deck and criticizing someone's deck in the process.
Too many times, too many people ignore the facts and just plain lie on this forum to suit their own needs. Perfect example yesterday Nathancards says" he is printing 5000 at $1.50 per deck is his cost. Where does he come up with that number? Under ReaganM' Stage 2 post, he clearly states the decks are costing him $5100 for all the decks. So last time I went to school, $5100 for 5000 decks is about a $1.00 per deck and no where near $1.50 per deck. So lets do the math shall we?
Take the median price per deck which is $8.00, $8.00 x 5000= $40,000
Cost for decks - $5100
Postage (including label) and bubble wrap -$6562.50
Kick starter fees & amazon fees 15% ($40,000 x 15%) -$6,000
Total Profit $22,337.50
Will he see all that profit right away? Probably not. But make no mistake, he is not using Brahma for any other reason other than they are the cheapest. So I am not sure why you keep defending that there is some other reason. He knows nothing about playing cards. When he initially posted, he said he could get Kem made for $5.00 per deck. When he was told he was incorrect, did he say, oh I just thought that is what they would be? No he said " I been down this road before and I know how much they cost". Well clearly he hasn't. He has no idea what quality is, just look this post:
"Unfortunantly, these will not be KEM like bycicle prestige"
He doesn't even have a clue that Kem and Bicycle prestige are 2 completely different animals. But yet you keep defending the reason he is using Brahma despite the fact that clearly he can not tell the difference between one deck of cards to another and despite that he already stated why he bought the decks; "Because he got a better deal" period. Those are his words not mine.
He clearly is only worried about the money and that is it. If he wasn't he would sell them for less. Keep defending him despite that there is no proof to your point of view and clearly substantial proof for my point of view. What is that proof? His own posts.
Thanks!
Ill try to adress all these concerns in one post.
1. you dont like the decks thats fine. But a lot of people consider them the best.
2. The cost with 5100$ was the cost for the quantum grain finish decks, I I messed up when I posted that. I have the quote and the cards will be around 1.50$
3. You say I am only in it for the money because I went for a cheaper deck ( which I believe to be of great quality ) which is slightly cheaper than 20$+ kems.... hmmm.... Yeah Maybe I jumped the gun a little bit I thought the kems would be around 5$ based on the few manufactureres Ive dealt with, oops.
4. But I am cheap because I could have gone for plastic, well the cards and finish I chose behave like plastic are as durable as plastic and yet are paper and flourish like a god, how cool is that.
5. I was also misinformed about the kem and bicycle prestige thing. I was led to beleive that bicycle bought kem and so bicycle prestige decks were just kems with a bicycle back.
6. Also If I was only in it for the money, why the hell would I spend so much time on this deck? Why spend so much time preforming minute tweaks?
Unfortuanantly though when I started this project It looked like it would succeed ( first day got 600 bucks not bad ) but when these arguments started popping up The project flatlined. Im going to have a lot of work ahead of me to try and see it succeed now.
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