People collect for many reasons. Some to have them all, others vintage only and others because it's a sickness 
I'm still a newbie collector. But as a collector I'd rather buy limited editions, rare and/or hard to find decks. I'm not all that interested in collecting a deck everyone can buy. However, I would still buy a deck that I find visually appealing, just to have one.
Having said that, if T11 wants to print 5000 or 50000 decks that should be up to them. My guess is they are printing cards to make a profit, so why limit production when they can sell more. Unless of course they claim it to be "limited".
To each his own, to be sure! Welcome aboard the Good Ship Discourse.
I don't mind limited or unlimited. But be upfront about it, at least. I paid a more expensive price for my Black Stingers because they were "sold out", or so I thought, until I discovered that I got a reprinting and that new printings are still cropping up. It's as if USPC was "sold out" of Bicycle Rider Backs, but you could still get them somewhere else at a higher price months after they were supposedly sold out because unbeknownst to you they're still being made - they're just not being sold by USPC.
As previously mentioned, T11 doesn't really do limited decks. I would not mind if this one is limited because it contains the designs of a very reputable artist. However, in an age of "limited" decks, it is kind of refreshing to have a site I can go to to order normally stocked decks. E kinda falls into this category as well. Either way, I am good to pick up a few.
Actually, E is in a better category. They deal with their customers straight, saying "This is a rare 5000-print run," "This is regular inventory; buy it up and we'll print more" and "We're closing out this product, get it while it lasts." T11 is more like "This product is sold out, has been for months - but we're still making it and you can be tricked into thinking it's a rare item and paying more for it long after we stopped carrying it on our website."
Limited decks should be a limited thing - something done once in a while, not as a rule of thumb. When everything's limited, it dilutes the meaning of what a limited edition deck really is. If a few things are limited, they have cachet; when everything's limited, it's just plain annoying.
my guess is that this deck is going to look much like the americana deck. hopefully not though. however, i guarantee that when its about to release they say it will be the best deck ever and will revolutionize the way we look at playing cards...0_o
True enough! But I think it'll be more like a reprint of a classic that never existed in the first place than a grunged-up custom. Again, this is based solely on a deck seal - which is like buying a car based on what the cigarette lighter looks like. Not even the hood ornament, just the cigarette lighter... "Oooh, that's a sweet-looking cigarette lighter! It only costs $25,000, and it comes with a CAR to carry it in, no less!"
Lol Gun. I hope there will not be any American flag imagery, that would turn me off from this deck.
I wouldn't hold my breath on that happening. We're talking "Americana", not "America the Beautiful" or (shudder) the "Red, White and Blue Series" from Merz67... The Rebel deck could just as easily be based on "Star Wars" as it could on America! Imagine a Darth Vader Ace of Spades...
I can really only crack jokes about a deck design whose only clue we have is the seal. I might as well take a bunch of supermodels, throw burqas on them and show you pictures of the hem to promote the new swimsuit calendar I'm making.
alot of hatred toward t11 on here... any reasons?
It's more of a love-hate thing for some - and a hate-hate thing for others!
They promote reasonably nice products as better than the second coming of Jesus, insuring universal disappointment; they still reprint and sell supposedly sold-out decks; and with the exception of the Sentinels, every deck they make is minimally customized (backs, Ace of Spades and Jokers, maybe some custom coloring on bog-standard court cards). This was fine when custom decks were still rarities in the market, but now everyone's making new decks and they're not keeping up in the innovation department.
Opinions are similar about Dan and Dave because not only are they in a similar creativity rut, but they sell overpriced products having little to nothing to do with cards at times, like nail clippers and lip balm.
Ellusionist is more generally liked because not only did they kick off this age of custom deck design, but they're not asleep at the switch when they work on a new deck, choosing instead to take bold, new directions rather than follow in the well-worn path of the rest of the industry.
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