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Re: Testimonials About Trading Partners - UPDATED CHART 05 Sept 2012
« Reply #150 on: September 15, 2012, 02:29:44 AM »
 

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I'm going to move this into the topic where it belongs, the Testimonials post.  I'll give Robert a chance to say his piece, but his last statement to me is that he's no longer interested in logging in here and he's broken off contact with me as well, including blocking me from his Facebook page.

While I'm at it, I'll update the chart and add one negative for Rob Butler.

EDIT: added negatives for both Rob from Chisairi and Aaron.  Almost missed that Aaron's was a unique complaint.
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Re: My experience with Mr.Robert Butler
« Reply #151 on: September 15, 2012, 02:57:23 AM »
 

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This does suck, sorry to have to read this Aaron! :( at least I know you're a good guy and wouldn't do this to anyone. That paypal he gave you is not his but as alex said, a friend. I have heard his name a lot around Robert's. He has mentioned his name I think with the creation of the Eco Clip or something else.

But looks like buying decks from him is a major no-no. If someone would risk it (i may do) but buy a deck of bikes of Rob and see if this will happen. You may never know.
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Re: My experience with Mr.Robert Butler
« Reply #152 on: September 15, 2012, 03:46:52 AM »
 

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Remember, gang - we were saying the same thing about Zaganh at one point, and now he's got as many positives as negatives, with the negatives all being older.

I'm moving this to the STISO (because Mr. Robert Butler is not now nor has he ever been a deck of playing cards, nor does he appear to be making one) and I'm merging it with the Testimonials topic, which is the best catch-all place to post this kind of information.  Reviews at a glance, who liked the trader, who didn't, etc.
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Re: Testimonials About Trading Partners - UPDATED Sat 15 Sept 2012
« Reply #153 on: September 15, 2012, 11:13:57 PM »
 

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I think it should at least be a thread people can easily see to know not to deal with him, someone awile made a thread attacking Alex's customer service for no good reason even and it was left as its own thread, I understand if it is just a post leaving feedback, but this is more warning people of a scammer.
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Re: Testimonials About Trading Partners - UPDATED Sat 15 Sept 2012
« Reply #154 on: September 16, 2012, 12:42:50 AM »
 

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I think it should at least be a thread people can easily see to know not to deal with him, someone awile made a thread attacking Alex's customer service for no good reason even and it was left as its own thread, I understand if it is just a post leaving feedback, but this is more warning people of a scammer.

Such a thread does exist.  It's THIS THREAD.  :))

Anyone looking up Rob on the chart will see two negative experiences and no positive ones.  Any trader here should realize that's someone you trade with either cautiously or not at all.  If they want to know why, they can either search this thread or they can look up the people making the testimonials and ask them.
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Re: Testimonials About Trading Partners - UPDATED Sat 15 Sept 2012
« Reply #155 on: September 16, 2012, 01:42:45 AM »
 

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Re: Testimonials About Trading Partners - UPDATED CHART 05 Sept 2012
« Reply #156 on: September 16, 2012, 02:24:17 AM »
 

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This is to report a scam happened to me lately.
The person scammed me was Robert Butler. yes the creator of pip squeek and Conjuring Creations.
you can find his facebook here "https://www.facebook.com/robert.butler.58/"

It was a big amount but I did recover from paypal. No thanks to him. total scammer and a liar.

Warning to everyone! Do not do business with him. it's a total waste of time and money. He is not the type that would fix his own mistake.

If you would, please, give the details of your transaction.  I'm sure we'd like to hear the details before I give anyone a negative mark as a trading partner.

It seems he has been on a roll lately. Check out the thread in PCP.


Hi everyone!

My story is that i ordered around 25 decks and 1 uncut sheet.

At first it was from Josh Kuperstein's post regarding package. then he tells me that the seller is not him it's actually Rob.

Rob and I had a deal for $314. As soon as we complete the pricing i paid him full amount via paypal 2 hours later since he promised that he would ship out on the same day and give me the tracking number as soon as he has it. This transaction was july 26.

The day went by and I never got the tracking. Few more days after that still no reply.

Then he tells me that he got injure so he can't mail it out. a week later he said he will mail out that day but that didn't happen. few days after that i ask for tracking number and he said he forgot in the car and have to wait for his wife to come home then he stop replying for a few days.

then i ask how long it would take for that shipment to go from US to Canada. then he reply me with "Canada??"

that is when i realized that something is wrong. then he tells me that he mail out to the wrong person.

As of that day. he delayed my package for around 2.5 weeks. (aug 13 +/- a day or 2)

I asked for a refund but he just say no can't do, already spend them all.

He said he will try to contact the person and get the package back and get it to me.
of course that didn't happen.

2 days later still no solution from him so I clearly told him that on Aug 30 i want my package in my hand or i want to see full refund in my papal account.

I gave him 2 weeks to get money or find a solution for me. So don't say i did not give him a chance.

after that i follow up with him every other day to see how he is doing. He told me that he is selling collectible and deck to get me my money (this is when he is actively selling the JAQK coins).

1 week later. he said he won't have enough money for full refund. I propose him that half refund and half replacement items (I can't believe i have to find my own solution when someone else screw up). 

He agreed and he start to gather some item for me to confirm but i did't like the package since the value just doesn't match up. he didn't reply for a few days.

then he try to offer me Encarded printing plates as a replacement but i turn it down.

At this point, Josh Kuperstein messaged on Facebook ask me if i got my package and i said no and we had a little discussion about the problem we both had with Rob. Then we both said that Rob actually offer both of us the Encarded printing plate.

That's when everything came out of the water. at that moment i knew that Rob will not give me my money back or a replacement. He is just playing me.

On Aug 29, he said that he has no replacement and no money to give m. he also close his paypal account because the guy that has my package is giving him a hard time.

On aug 30. i just file a dispute and get it to a claim right away. I had to wait 15 days for the process and eventually i got my money back but i lose money because of currency exchange.

If you tell me this is NOT a scam. I really believe you need to think twice.

If you don't believe he is a scammer then place go to Facebook group and communities page. I post the exact same post on there. people are replying me with their bad experiences with Rob. There is no doubt that many people think he is a scammer.

If you have any bad experiences with anyone please stand up and talk! Silence will only hurt more people!! These people does not need you to protect them. They need to be point out!
 

Re: Testimonials About Trading Partners - UPDATED Sun 16 Sept 2012
« Reply #157 on: September 16, 2012, 02:25:41 AM »
 

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KPop, your positive remark is duly noted on the chart.

A reminder to all traders: if you change your name on the boards, please let me know so I can change your name on the chart and let your history follow you.
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Re: Testimonials About Trading Partners - UPDATED Sun 16 Sept 2012
« Reply #158 on: September 17, 2012, 09:56:10 PM »
 

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       Everything was great with our trade. The contents were packaged very safely and arrived in a quick manner. I would really recommend Josh Robinson for trades and look forward to future trades with him! Actually, we are in the middle of one as I type. ;)
 

Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Thu 20 Sept 2012
« Reply #159 on: September 20, 2012, 10:51:51 AM »
 

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Just updated, with a slight title change.
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Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Thu 20 Sept 2012
« Reply #160 on: September 20, 2012, 08:30:07 PM »
 

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We have had 2 different trades and both times his decks arrived on time and in perfect condition.
Do you guys even read this? Like I could have the meaning of life here and I doubt you would know it.
 

Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Thu 20 Sept 2012
« Reply #161 on: September 20, 2012, 10:39:43 PM »
 

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Traded with Shade. Great communication, fast shipping. +1 for Shade.
 

Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Thu 20 Sept 2012
« Reply #162 on: September 20, 2012, 11:35:39 PM »
 

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Sucessfully traded with sammyho888 a bunch of decks for a great white monarch and mana deck. He was very understanding when two of the decks I sent got munched, and I had to exchange them.

Great trader, +1 for Sammyho888.
 

Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Thu 20 Sept 2012
« Reply #163 on: September 21, 2012, 09:19:15 AM »
 

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We have had 2 different trades and both times his decks arrived on time and in perfect condition.


Hey, one "plus" per testimonial!  Unless you're willing to give a few more details of each trade.


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Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Thu 20 Sept 2012
« Reply #164 on: September 21, 2012, 02:28:58 PM »
 

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ok the first one was a few months ago I traded him some skulkors for some decks I wanted. posted it cause I did not know he had an account here. and the one we just had was.


2 x Skulkor $16
1 x Blood Metal $20
1 x Enigma $12
1 x Green Artifice v2 $7
1 x Infinity $7
1 x Vortex signed under cellophane $25
1 x Oriental $ 25
For
1 x Charity Waters $10
1 x Bee Stinger $10
1 x Gold Artifact Coin $55
1 x Red Vintage Plaid $7
2 x Rider back $5
1 x magic con $25

And he wrapped them and they were not damaged at all.
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Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Thu 20 Sept 2012
« Reply #165 on: September 21, 2012, 11:21:26 PM »
 

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I think John pretty much wrapped it up. +1 or +2 for him (not sure if we can do +2 as per Don's rule). Either way, +1 or +2 for him. Highly recommended trader.
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Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Sat 22 Sept 2012
« Reply #166 on: September 22, 2012, 02:48:53 AM »
 

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The descriptions of the two trades were adequate, so I've corrected the totals.
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Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Sat 22 Sept 2012
« Reply #167 on: September 24, 2012, 02:11:47 PM »
 

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So this guy is a scammer I guess? Basically, I paid him $280+ via paypal for 3 white centurions, and after a period of 3 days, I tried to contact him but to no avail. I was lucky that paypal refunded me the money after 10 days.

So beware of him and do not do any business with him!


 
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Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Sat 22 Sept 2012
« Reply #168 on: September 24, 2012, 03:53:24 PM »
 

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Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Sat 22 Sept 2012
« Reply #169 on: September 25, 2012, 12:29:13 AM »
 

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+1 for Angel Magic.

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Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Tues 25 Sept 2012
« Reply #170 on: September 25, 2012, 12:46:06 AM »
 

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Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Tues 25 Sept 2012
« Reply #171 on: September 25, 2012, 03:42:39 AM »
 

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If BMPokerWorld is on here. +1 for Him! Bought Four decks about 2-3 weeks ago, Received today, perfect condition!! Thanks!
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Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Tues 25 Sept 2012
« Reply #172 on: September 25, 2012, 04:55:16 AM »
 

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Well, if you're covering outright purchases from retail shops, I'm sure we all have a long list...  :))

I'll toss in my +1 for him as well.  I've never had any issues with him, made a number of good purchases and he even donated a LARGE quantity of slightly imperfect decks (the kind only a hardcore collector could complain about) for my performances at the hospital.

Since I'm on the topic, I'll briefly say that the decks that were purchased with your money or donated directly, if you participated in the drive, are a huge success.  The kids just can't get enough of them.  I recently started covering the pediatric ER as well as the in-patient peds unit.  Now there's where a kid could really use a distraction, I tell ya...  They, and I, can't thank everyone who helped enough.

Chart updated - AGAIN.
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Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Tues 25 Sept 2012
« Reply #173 on: September 26, 2012, 10:25:38 PM »
 

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+1 Eyeball

Fast shipping, decks are in great condition.
 

Re: Trader Testimonials - UPDATED Tues 25 Sept 2012
« Reply #174 on: September 26, 2012, 11:17:15 PM »
 

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Great packaging, shipped on the same day, would recommend.