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Your favorite borderless cards
« on: May 31, 2012, 04:35:43 PM »
 

DarrylDavis

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I absolutely love borderless cards, I think they're the best for gambling routines and i love the way they look. I only know of the erdnaseum, the vintage plaids, and standard casino style bees. I was wondering what are some of your favorites?!
 

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2012, 04:45:35 PM »
 

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for me the best borderless decks are standard bees and artifice blue v1
 

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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2012, 04:54:27 PM »
 

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Mine would have to be the plaids and the Erdnaseum. I love the pattern on the plaids (because I'm old fashioned like that :P) and I love what they did with the S.W. Edanase on the back and stuff of the Erdnaseum!
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2012, 05:46:32 PM »
 

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My favorite borderless cards are Vintage Plaids, and Standard Bee decks.
 

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2012, 05:57:46 PM »
 

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Apart from the plaids and Erdnaseum, i think that the Pro-cardistry and stickman deck are not bad looking too!:D
 

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2012, 06:07:55 PM »
 

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I love the Pro-cardistry deck and the Artifice v1.

I only know of the erdnaseum, the vintage plaids, and standard casino style bees.
Really? there's more than a dozen others out there!
 

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2012, 06:41:36 PM »
 

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Nathan, those are the dozen I want to know about! Haha what are some of them??
 

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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2012, 06:50:36 PM »
 

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Nathan, those are the dozen I want to know about! Haha what are some of them??
Well off the top of my head I can't name them all (I will tell you later), but there's already the Limited Edition series among those already named before.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2012, 07:17:16 PM »
 

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For me, it would have to be the Vintage Plaids (of course!) and the Artifice deck. Those are probably the best out there. The Vintage Plaid is wonderful because it's a mix of a traditional Bee deck with additional spice. Basically, these Plaids are not what you would ordinarily see.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2012, 08:19:27 PM »
 

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For me, it would have to be the Vintage Plaids (of course!) and the Artifice deck. Those are probably the best out there. The Vintage Plaid is wonderful because it's a mix of a traditional Bee deck with additional spice. Basically, these Plaids are not what you would ordinarily see.
Don't want to be off topic but I dislike the look of the plaids very much. Love the handling, hate the looks and the sexist box ;) I much rather like bees.
 

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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2012, 10:05:49 PM »
 

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Don't mind me asking, but how is the box sexist? It's just made out of this leathery, cardboard substance?
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2012, 10:21:05 PM »
 

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Don't mind me asking, but how is the box sexist? It's just made out of this leathery, cardboard substance?
It's not really sexist. It's just that it says "Fine Playing Cards for Gentlemen". I'm a strong feminist (maybe too much so). Why can't women own/use fine playing cards. I understand it's part of the theme of the deck though.
 

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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2012, 11:10:04 PM »
 

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Modern feminists are female supremacists. That's all I have to say. ::)
And nitpicking like you are is one of their faults.

...That said, it's also my favorite, but only the arizona red. Don't really care for the other. Not sure why, since I usually only buy blue decks...
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2012, 05:38:07 AM »
 

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Steamboats.  Best borderless cards.  Ever.

There's a bunch of Bee variations (like the casino grade 'Bumble Bee'), Hoyle PGC (which suck), the Gemaco Alpha series casino decks are all borderless, I think.  If you're talking about USPCC decks (ones that handle well) it'll have to be some kind of Bee or if you can find Steamboats, buy them all, they're amazing.
 

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2012, 10:47:56 AM »
 

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I got a deck of Cadets over the weekend and I like them.  But they're not as good for flourishing and magic.  First, they're miniatures.  Second, they're about 120 years old...  But they have almost exactly the same back pattern as the Vintage Plaids in California Blue.  That pattern's been around a LOOOOOOOONG time.
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2012, 10:54:32 AM »
 

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i am a sucker for plaid so i must say, vintage plaids! but i agree that the red ones look a lot better.
 

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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2012, 11:38:42 AM »
 

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limited edition series 2 .. vintage plaid .. pro-cardistry and artifice v1
 

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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2012, 12:08:26 PM »
 

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I would go with the Artifice V1.
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2012, 12:09:48 PM »
 

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The new Seasons Seronda deck is my favorite.
It's a very nice deck, but it's not really borderless though. The borders are black.
 

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2012, 12:17:15 PM »
 

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The new Seasons Seronda deck is my favorite.
It's a very nice deck, but it's not really borderless though. The borders are black.


In that case, neither are the Limited Edition 1 & 2 decks.
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2012, 12:26:17 PM »
 

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The new Seasons Seronda deck is my favorite.
It's a very nice deck, but it's not really borderless though. The borders are black.


In that case, neither are the Limited Edition 1 & 2 decks.
I guess we all have different believes of what borderless cards are. The reason why I mentioned the Limited Edition #2s is because the borders on the back are blue while the ones on the faces are white.
However for the Limited Editions #1, the borders on front and back are both white, and on the Seronda, they are both black.
 

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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2012, 12:28:44 PM »
 

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I'm surprised Arcanes haven't been mentioned yet.
 

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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2012, 12:42:17 PM »
 

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I'm surprised Arcanes haven't been mentioned yet.
i ws going to type out how about the arcanes when nathan mention about the seronda but then i see that nobody in this post mention about arcanes so i did not bother mentioning them ..
 

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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2012, 12:45:00 PM »
 

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I'm surprised Arcanes haven't been mentioned yet.
i ws going to type out how about the arcanes when nathan mention about the seronda but then i see that nobody in this post mention about arcanes so i did not bother mentioning them ..
I consider Arcanes as bordered cards as well. The white ones have white faces and white borders, while the black ones have black faces and borders.
A bordered deck for me is when, if you put one card upside down in the deck, you won't be able to notice that card if you look at the sides of the deck. This is the case for both Arcanes, and Shadow Masters, etc.
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2012, 12:51:08 PM »
 

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The new Seasons Seronda deck is my favorite.
It's a very nice deck, but it's not really borderless though. The borders are black.


In that case, neither are the Limited Edition 1 & 2 decks.
I guess we all have different believes of what borderless cards are. The reason why I mentioned the Limited Edition #2s is because the borders on the back are blue while the ones on the faces are white.
However for the Limited Editions #1, the borders on front and back are both white, and on the Seronda, they are both black.


OK, let's do this - let's define what "borderless backs" actually means.


One possible definition would be any deck that prints into the bleed.  This would include all patterned backs that extend beyond the cut, but it would also include all the colored decks as well.  Every black deck would be considered borderless.


My preferred definition is one that has a PATTERN that prints into the bleed.  That sounds like more of a true definition, especially from a card mechanic's perspective.  A black deck might not help a cheating gambler, while a deck with patterns going off the edge of the card would certainly help.


With that definition, there's fewer choices, but it's better defined.


Limited Ed. decks - no
any black deck with a black edge, regardless of front colors - no
any colored deck with a matching edge, regardless of front colors - no
Steamboats, Bee Diamond Backs, Vintage Plaids (and other cards using the same classic patterns) - YES


I consider Arcanes as bordered cards as well. The white ones have white faces and white borders, while the black ones have black faces and borders.
A borderless deck for me is when, if you put one card upside down in the deck, you won't be able to notice that card if you look at the sides of the deck. This is the case for both Arcanes, and Shadow Masters, etc.


Uh, Nathan?  You just contradicted yourself.  Arcanes can't be both bordered (as in your first paragraph) and borderless (as in your second paragraph).


BORDERLESS means the back DESIGN, and not simply the color, extends beyond the edge of the card and is printed into the bleed area surrounding the card.
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