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Don Boyer · « **Reply #75 on:** June 17, 2013, 07:03:03 PM »

Quote from: JPMiddleton on June 17, 2013, 06:50:04 PM

Quote from: Don Boyer on June 15, 2013, 02:08:08 AM
Most people do play poker using a two-deck matched set, after all. The deck's a hit, sold out at least once - it makes sense.

I understand that and take your point, but are Ellusionist really thinking about people playing poker? Vanda Cards yes, Encarded maybe, not sure about Ellusionist.

Well, poker, maybe not - but gambling demonstrations, oh yeah...

Magic_Orthodoxy · « **Reply #76 on:** June 19, 2013, 11:23:23 AM »

now the rumor mill is switching to a new deck from Madison "the Dealers"

Card Player · « **Reply #77 on:** June 19, 2013, 03:41:48 PM »

Quote from: Magic_Orthodoxy on June 19, 2013, 11:23:23 AM

now the rumor mill is switching to a new deck from Madison "the Dealers"

"Madison Dealers" That's outstanding research. Wish I had thought to post that. Looks like you beat me to it. Lol

From what I can tell by teaser #3, it could be a Green Madison Bee Casino deck w/ no border.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNoJ9Stgx0U

Paul.Middleton · « **Reply #78 on:** June 19, 2013, 06:50:59 PM »

He was (and is) a huge fan of the Coterie Bee's - so that's not so far fetched IMO.

agera94 · « **Reply #79 on:** June 19, 2013, 10:40:19 PM »

Something that may work well is the design of the UPSC logo bee deck with the stinger backs. Maybe like a bee design with DM logo at each end; that'd probably be the closest thing he would get to a casino themed deck.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #80 on:** June 20, 2013, 03:21:47 AM »

Guys, look closely - it's borderless, but it's not Bee Diamond Back. Looks like he's making his interpretation of a gambler's borderless design, well-suited to some of the sleights he likes to perform.

Gunshy1 · « **Reply #81 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:04:42 AM »

teaser 4 tells ya they are marked.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #82 on:** June 22, 2013, 01:02:15 AM »

Quote from: Gunshy1 on June 21, 2013, 09:04:42 AM

teaser 4 tells ya they are marked.

Not directly. It's possible they're marked, but it's also possible that he had them in stack order. He was counting the cards and revealing perhaps every fourth card.

One way or another, this definitely appears to be a deck aimed at gamblers and magicians that perform gambling routines. We've already seen a back with a borderless design that resembles the Bee Diamond Back without actually being one, and I'm told that's a notoriously easy deck to mark because of the back pattern. Can't say I've ever seen one that was marked, but I could easily imagine a few ways to do it.

Magic_Orthodoxy · « **Reply #83 on:** June 22, 2013, 06:39:41 PM »

This is a teaser shot (sorry if it was posted already)

Don Boyer · « **Reply #84 on:** June 23, 2013, 08:33:54 AM »

Quote from: Magic_Orthodoxy on June 22, 2013, 06:39:41 PM

This is a teaser shot (sorry if it was posted already)

A useless teaser. The face of the box says "Madison Rounders" while the flap has been photoshopped to read something else that's too blurry to make out. It could say "Madison Python's Flying Circus" for all I know.

I hate useless teasers.

Magic_Orthodoxy · « **Reply #85 on:** June 23, 2013, 08:44:49 AM »

wow, you think that looks like an "R" ? I need glasses....

And after the seal - that first letter is clearly an "E" after the rest I can see "EALERS"

Besides, Rounders' face looks like this

Most Teasers are useless, that's what makes them teasers (LOL)

Card Player · « **Reply #86 on:** June 23, 2013, 09:11:17 AM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on June 23, 2013, 08:33:54 AM

Quote from: Magic_Orthodoxy on June 22, 2013, 06:39:41 PM
This is a teaser shot (sorry if it was posted already)

A useless teaser. The face of the box says "Madison Rounders" while the flap has been photoshopped to read something else that's too blurry to make out. It could say "Madison Python's Flying Circus" for all I know.

I hate useless teasers.

Its does say Madison Dealers on the front of the box. It looks like there not going with the Ace logo they used on rounders. Just script font "Madison Dealers".

With what we are seeing of the tuck box, I find it hard to believe these are going to be GREEN. Do you think Madison is misinforming us purposely on these teasers? "deception artist" #Madness

Don Boyer · « **Reply #87 on:** June 23, 2013, 07:46:19 PM »

Quote from: Magic_Orthodoxy on June 23, 2013, 08:44:49 AM

wow, you think that looks like an "R" ? I need glasses....

And after the seal - that first letter is clearly an "E" after the rest I can see "EALERS"

Besides, Rounders' face looks like this

Most Teasers are useless, that's what makes them teasers (LOL)

I suppose next time I should post when I'm less tired and cranky... You're right, that looks like "Dealers".

Quote from: Legacy on June 23, 2013, 09:11:17 AM

Its does say Madison Dealers on the front of the box. It looks like there not going with the Ace logo they used on rounders. Just script font "Madison Dealers".

With what we are seeing of the tuck box, I find it hard to believe these are going to be GREEN. Do you think Madison is misinforming us purposely on these teasers? "deception artist" #Madness

Well, what was in the green box of Vintage Plaids? Blue. Can't judge a deck by its tuck box.

So, we're looking at "Madison Dealers", a green deck with a similar design to Bee Diamond Backs.

Magic_Orthodoxy · « **Reply #88 on:** June 24, 2013, 03:12:05 PM »

looks like they come out Wednesday

PrincessTrouble · « **Reply #89 on:** June 24, 2013, 03:23:36 PM »

And in Erdnase green.

Card Player · « **Reply #90 on:** June 24, 2013, 03:41:18 PM »

You do all realize no one updated the title of this thread or attempted to create a new thread for this deck. Obviously not a Red Rounders deck. Lol

Clear my throat... Huhummm?!?

10ofclubs · « **Reply #91 on:** June 24, 2013, 04:02:07 PM »

I feel like I'm being hypnotized by that back design. Good Lord, I think it might be difficult to see after a couple hands of poker.

But that joker reveal is kind of neat.

Card Player · « **Reply #92 on:** June 25, 2013, 01:11:53 PM »

Quote from: 10ofclubs on June 24, 2013, 04:02:07 PM

I feel like I'm being hypnotized by that back design. Good Lord, I think it might be difficult to see after a couple hands of poker.

But that joker reveal is kind of neat.

That's because your staring at it trying to find the marking system. I'm thinking about the person who is go going to turn away from staring at it for the very reason your mentioning. Getting dizzy or hypnotized. Less chance of them looking for a mark. Not to mention putrid GREEN. It ain't pretty to look at but they do the job.

Curt · « **Reply #93 on:** June 25, 2013, 01:23:34 PM »

E just posted this

"|| SCARLET DEALERS || In addition to the Erdnase Green, Daniel Madison had a few (2,500) Scarlet Dealers manufactured for his personal collection and use. 405 will be available tomorrow."

also, I added to the title of the thread to make more sense.

Card Player · « **Reply #94 on:** June 25, 2013, 03:30:49 PM »

Quote from: Curt on June 25, 2013, 01:23:34 PM

E just posted this

"|| SCARLET DEALERS || In addition to the Erdnase Green, Daniel Madison had a few (2,500) Scarlet Dealers manufactured for his personal collection and use. 405 will be available tomorrow."

also, I added to the title of the thread to make more sense.

All I need is the TIME / ZONE / & LIMIT of scarlet per order and we are good to go. The Madison Money Train is leaving Ellusionist Station, All aboard!!

PrincessTrouble · « **Reply #95 on:** June 25, 2013, 04:44:48 PM »

I hope there are some scarlets left after the BC members get their shot at them.

Still waiting for the release time announcement...

Card Player · « **Reply #96 on:** June 25, 2013, 05:55:06 PM »

Quote from: PrincessTrouble on June 25, 2013, 04:44:48 PM

I hope there are some scarlets left after the BC members get their shot at them.

Still waiting for the release time announcement...

2500 printed... 405 will be available tomorrow (Wednesday). I don't think the Black Club is buying from the 405 available decks. 405 might be all Ellusionist is releasing to Non Black Club members. #Madness

Daniel Madison you are the Imp whispering in the Devil's ear! #LegacySaid

mirciusx · « **Reply #97 on:** June 25, 2013, 05:56:49 PM »

This is it...Dealers. http://www.ellusionist.com/madison-dealers-green.html

Buy 12 green, get one red

LE. it's a little strange that they made it public on fb page, even only BC members can order. Usually they keep it secret another's 24h.

kdklown · « **Reply #98 on:** June 25, 2013, 08:43:54 PM »

Anybody have an idea what time of day E usually releases their decks?

Don Boyer · « **Reply #99 on:** June 25, 2013, 09:17:43 PM »

Quote from: mirciusx on June 25, 2013, 05:56:49 PM

This is it...Dealers. http://www.ellusionist.com/madison-dealers-green.html

Buy 12 green, get one red

LE. it's a little strange that they made it public on fb page, even only BC members can order. Usually they keep it secret another's 24h.

Well, it's not exactly like Black Club members keep it a secret, now is it?