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Madison Dealers by Ellusionist
« on: March 08, 2013, 10:22:55 AM »
 

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So, I was watching revelations 9 on youtube and there's some comments that caught my eye.

If you've not watched the clip, here's the link
http://youtu.be/jjQfMYGRTVE ..
At the 00:53 second mark it seems he's handling a deck of red rounders. Does anyone know much more about this?

« Last Edit: July 02, 2013, 12:28:49 AM by Don Boyer »
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Re: Red Rounders??
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2013, 10:38:39 AM »
 

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Definitely. He also says that the Red Wynn was his favorite deck, so probably gonna release a Red version of the Madisons.
 

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 10:40:28 AM »
 

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Definitely looking forward to that :) probably won't b for a while though I'm guessing, maybe a limited version?
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 11:04:48 AM »
 

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Isn't that Red Wynn?
 

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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 02:55:00 PM »
 

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Isn't that Red Wynn?

I agree. Madison himself said how much he loved Wynns, especially the red ones. I also think he's using a Red Wynn, but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2013, 03:21:32 PM »
 

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Isn't that Red Wynn?

I agree. Madison himself said how much he loved Wynns, especially the red ones. I also think he's using a Red Wynn, but I could be wrong.

he mentioned in the video that it's a secret project. Maybe the project is a red deck of rounders ...
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 03:32:49 PM »
 

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Well before revolutions 9, I thought there was going to be another color.

1. When you order rounders, on the order they are known as MADISONRBLCK. There is no need to add the BLCK on the name if black is the only version available. They would only be known as MADISONR or MADISONRNDR.

2. You have to listen how Daniel introduces the Rounders in revelations 9. He calls them Rounders Black Edition. Another hint there is more then one color available (RED).

These are indeed RED Madison Rounders.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 05:26:17 PM »
 

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Those are red rounders, the Wynn logo is slightly bigger, rounder and the deck it self is a darker red than what we see in the video.
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Re: Red Rounders??
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 08:45:08 PM »
 

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Another deck to add to the list...  :))

I'd be interested.  The deck's appearance is great for poker, so having a poker set seems natural.
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2013, 08:46:18 PM »
 

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Hmm....it's hard to tell, but yeah, the Wynn logo is a bit larger than the logo on these decks, which looks about the same as the logo on the black Rounders. We'll see soon enough.
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2013, 09:11:21 PM »
 

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[well the logo is the official DM logo as seen on his players deck as well as his rounders. But, as mentioned before, Wynn deck is his favourite and he loves the look of a minimalistic deck. If only there was some kind of ellusionist member who has an account on here could maybe confirm that this deck will be out soon .... :))/color]
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2013, 09:12:30 PM »
 

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Do you really think he would? If he would then he would have just had daniel say it straight up.
Do you guys even read this? Like I could have the meaning of life here and I doubt you would know it.
 

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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2013, 09:45:31 PM »
 

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Do you really think he would? If he would then he would have just had daniel say it straight up.

I didn't say anything about definitely confirming it, but there's nothin to say he can't hint at it ..
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2013, 09:51:04 PM »
 

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Do you really think he would? If he would then he would have just had daniel say it straight up.

Jake would if he was authorized to do so.
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2013, 09:54:26 PM »
 

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The deck looks great so far. I can't wait to see more, especially the court cards.
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The deck looks great so far. I can't wait to see more, especially the court cards.

Just out of curiosity, if this is the red version of the Madison Rounders, what makes you think it would have different courts?  :))
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2013, 10:02:13 PM »
 

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The deck looks great so far. I can't wait to see more, especially the court cards.

Just out of curiosity, if this is the red version of the Madison Rounders, what makes you think it would have different courts?  :))

Open illustrator. Click back design shape. Select red. Sell thousands.  Nice business model.
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The deck looks great so far. I can't wait to see more, especially the court cards.

I don't think th courts r gona change. You'll still have DM as th KoD, his partner(?) as th QoD and his sons name on th JoD .. Also, I'm assuming, Justin Lianza is gona b on there too again
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The deck looks great so far. I can't wait to see more, especially the court cards.

Just out of curiosity, if this is the red version of the Madison Rounders, what makes you think it would have different courts?  :))
I thought if he changed the color of the back design, he might also change the color of the court cards. It's probably just me, but a red court card with a red back design doesn't sit right with me. You know, all you have to do is open illustrator, click the desired card. change the color, and sell thousands. ;)
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Open illustrator. Click back design shape. Select red. Sell thousands.  Nice business model.

We KNOW this, bro.  It seems clear, as indicated by Legacy, that the second color was intended from the beginning.  E just opted to release them at separate times, perhaps with the idea of making the reds be a rare deck to replace their dwindling stock of rares.  BG1E is already an "endangered species" now, since it's been removed from regular gift tiers - or does E even still have gift tiers anymore?

The deck looks great so far. I can't wait to see more, especially the court cards.

Just out of curiosity, if this is the red version of the Madison Rounders, what makes you think it would have different courts?  :))
I thought if he changed the color of the back design, he might also change the color of the court cards. It's probably just me, but a red court card with a red back design doesn't sit right with me. You know, all you have to do is open illustrator, click the desired card. change the color, and sell thousands. ;)

Hmm, that statement looks awfully FAMILIAR...  :))

It's rare that someone changes the court colors to match a different color of the same design.  It makes the deck less convenient for games - players like different backs but the same faces from deck to deck in an all-night neighborhood poker game.

It's one thing if a company builds its reputation by recycling the same designs for months or even years, doing little more than tweaking the color scheme.

It's a different thing if a company's releasing a few colors of the same deck at once, or even over a short time, particularly if there's a demand for it.  Only the dumbest of business people ignore their customers' desires.  It's why we have Ornate decks in four colors now instead of only two, why there's so many different Crown deck colors, why Bee Stingers are black and red, etc.  As I said above, it's clear they intended two colors all along.

These decks take time to design and make - you don't honestly think that they made the blacks, then did this afterwards as an afterthought or a reply to customer requests or something, do you?  If Daniel Madison has them in his hands already, odds are they were printed weeks if not months ago.  I'm still seeing new releases with AoS codes indicating a print date in late 2012 - a prime example being the new Erdnase 216 Squeezers, which were printed on the next-to-last week of last year.  (Yes, it's odd for custom releases to have an AoS code, but those do.)
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2013, 07:27:29 AM »
 

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We KNOW this, bro.  It seems clear, as indicated by Legacy, that the second color was intended from the beginning.  E just opted to release them at separate times, perhaps with the idea of making the reds be a rare deck to replace their dwindling stock of rares.  BG1E is already an "endangered species" now, since it's been removed from regular gift tiers - or does E even still have gift tiers anymore?

I hope they are not rare. While I certainly enjoy having rare decks, the anticipation of trying to acquire them is nerve-racking. I'd be good with a limited release window of 24 - 48 hours if making this deck rare is E's intention.
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I hope they are not rare. While I certainly enjoy having rare decks, the anticipation of trying to acquire them is nerve-racking. I'd be good with a limited release window of 24 - 48 hours if making this deck rare is E's intention.

It's just a hypothesis.  They often release different colors on different release dates.  Look at all of the Artifice decks - six at last count, every one released on a different day.
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2013, 03:58:18 AM »
 

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I hope they release these like the Red Artifice, it gives me a bit of a "rush" trying to get the decks and the anticipation of them coming out. I havn't had a chance at that feeling for a while now ;)
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I hope they release these like the Red Artifice, it gives me a bit of a "rush" trying to get the decks and the anticipation of them coming out. I havn't had a chance at that feeling for a while now ;)

You want a "rush", play the lottery!  The Red Artifice release was a PR disaster for Ellusionist because of the huge number of frustrated buyers getting locked out by servers that were nearly immobilized with the deluge of traffic.  Just give me a straight-up legit release over that nonsense any day.
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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2013, 04:20:10 AM »
 

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I hope they release these like the Red Artifice, it gives me a bit of a "rush" trying to get the decks and the anticipation of them coming out. I havn't had a chance at that feeling for a while now ;)

You want a "rush", play the lottery!  The Red Artifice release was a PR disaster for Ellusionist because of the huge number of frustrated buyers getting locked out by servers that were nearly immobilized with the deluge of traffic.  Just give me a straight-up legit release over that nonsense any day.
Haha Maybe if the people were quicker they wouldn't get locked out ;)

 I can see why people get mad about those types of releases though.

But personally it is the funest thing about getting cards, I like to see the people who missed out get mad and have to pay more to resellers. But it does suck when you are the one paying more.
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