Madison Dealers by Ellusionist

[Joker and the Thief]

Ahem! Just saw this on Ricky Smith's Instagram...
Looks pretty genuine even though Ricky mentioned Photoshop. It was sent by Madison.

[Card Player]

REDemption

Not "currently" on the release calendar or the Burnt Sienna version is NOT called "Rounders".

I won't rush to judgment incase this is a fake.

[Don Boyer]

Ahem! Just saw this on Ricky Smith's Instagram...
Looks pretty genuine even though Ricky mentioned Photoshop. It was sent by Madison.

Lucky coincidence - I have a meeting at CARC tomorrow, Ricky should be there.  I'll ask him.

[Joker and the Thief]

A photo from our old friend Benoitpervier.
You could argue that that is just a red Wynn but do red wynns have thin borders like that? I think not.
I also cannot think of a deck with a solid black back and thin borders. Also, notice that the borders are the same thickness on both the red and black cards.

[Don Boyer]

A photo from our old friend Benoitpervier.
You could argue that that is just a red Wynn but do red wynns have thin borders like that? I think not.
I also cannot think of a deck with a solid black back and thin borders. Also, notice that the borders are the same thickness on both the red and black cards.

Or you could argue that someone used photo-editing software to alter the color of one sole card back in the spread.  As I said, I'll ask Ricky about it since I'll probably see him tomorrow.

[amosyzk]

I really hope the answer would be positive, I am a great fan of red 

[rave]

Sorry for off-topic, It Smells Like Feet...

[sway]

Sorry for off-topic, It Smells Like Feet...

LOL, that is what I'd call a real sharp eye.

[Don Boyer]

Sorry for off-topic, It Smells Like Feet...

LOL, that is what I'd call a real sharp eye.

Makes me glad I got a pedicure before posting that...

I didn't see Ricky today, but I'll be calling CARC tomorrow and I'll ask for him.

[mirciusx]

I also found this photo of a possible Red Rounders deck ... http://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopic.php?t=1572&p=17838

In almost two months you'll know for sure if will be a Red Rounders or not.

[Michael]

I also found this photo of a possible Red Rounders deck ... http://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopic.php?t=1572&p=17838

In almost two months you'll know for sure if will be a Red Rounders or not.

That's the same photo JT posted a few posts above this one. All still talk until we see a product on thier product page.

[Don Boyer]

I also found this photo of a possible Red Rounders deck ... http://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopic.php?t=1572&p=17838

In almost two months you'll know for sure if will be a Red Rounders or not.

That's the same photo JT posted a few posts above this one. All still talk until we see a product on thier product page.

Guys, remember that I wrote this in the thread earlier...

Guys, it's really very simple.  Jake/Xntrix, an employee of Ellusionist who would know these things, said there's no other color of Rounders on the release calendar.  So there are no other Rounders.  Will there be in the future?  It could happen, just like purple Artifice decks happened.  But the fact that it's not on the calendar makes it sound as if it's not even at some point in production or design, either.

It's not impossible that there is or will be a red Rounders deck - but it's also pretty unlikely.  Unless they're keeping it SO secret, they're not telling their HUGE roster of (a dozen or so) employees...  Which is even MORE unlikely...

[Siegismyname]

Don. So did u manage to ask Ricky smith?

[Don Boyer]

Don. So did u manage to ask Ricky smith?

No, I didn't see him that day; I was pressed for time with another appointment and a magic gig after that.  I was so tired by day's end that I got on the right train home - in the wrong direction!

[Card Player]

REDemption

Not "currently" on the release calendar or the Burnt Sienna version is NOT called "Rounders".

I won't rush to judgment incase this is a fake.

@DANIELmadison has something new brewing and about to be released at Ellusionist. As mentioned previously by jake @Ellusionist, at the time he would only confirm 2 decks on the Ellusionist calendar. Today we now know these decks as "eXecutive" and "Artifice Tundra". As I mentioned before if there is a burnt sienna version of the Madison deck it might not be called "rounders". All falling in line with Jakes statement of no other rounders deck known to exist. With the new teasers, the theory is the burnt sienna deck is now the next deck on the calendar for release and its called "Madison Dealers".

Thoughts?

[Don Boyer]

REDemption

Not "currently" on the release calendar or the Burnt Sienna version is NOT called "Rounders".

I won't rush to judgment incase this is a fake.

@DANIELmadison has something new brewing and about to be released at Ellusionist. As mentioned previously by jake @Ellusionist, at the time he would only confirm 2 decks on the Ellusionist calendar. Today we now know these decks as "eXecutive" and "Artifice Tundra". As I mentioned before if there is a burnt sienna version of the Madison deck it might not be called "rounders". All falling in line with Jakes statement of no other rounders deck known to exist. With the new teasers, the theory is the burnt sienna deck is now the next deck on the calendar for release and its called "Madison Dealers".

Thoughts?

I reread the Instagram photo from Ricky Smith.  It does look like his sense of humor to mention "or I'm really good at Photoshop, etc."  I doubt the image is Photoshopped - and just because they didn't exist at the time, doesn't mean they don't exist now, right?

[Card Player]

REDemption

Not "currently" on the release calendar or the Burnt Sienna version is NOT called "Rounders".

I won't rush to judgment incase this is a fake.

@DANIELmadison has something new brewing and about to be released at Ellusionist. As mentioned previously by jake @Ellusionist, at the time he would only confirm 2 decks on the Ellusionist calendar. Today we now know these decks as "eXecutive" and "Artifice Tundra". As I mentioned before if there is a burnt sienna version of the Madison deck it might not be called "rounders". All falling in line with Jakes statement of no other rounders deck known to exist. With the new teasers, the theory is the burnt sienna deck is now the next deck on the calendar for release and its called "Madison Dealers".

Thoughts?

I reread the Instagram photo from Ricky Smith.  It does look like his sense of humor to mention "or I'm really good at Photoshop, etc."  I doubt the image is Photoshopped - and just because they didn't exist at the time, doesn't mean they don't exist now, right?

True... We will see... Madness

What happened to that meeting you were going to have with Ricky Smith? Have you been sworn to secrecy?

[Don Boyer]

REDemption

Not "currently" on the release calendar or the Burnt Sienna version is NOT called "Rounders".

I won't rush to judgment incase this is a fake.

@DANIELmadison has something new brewing and about to be released at Ellusionist. As mentioned previously by jake @Ellusionist, at the time he would only confirm 2 decks on the Ellusionist calendar. Today we now know these decks as "eXecutive" and "Artifice Tundra". As I mentioned before if there is a burnt sienna version of the Madison deck it might not be called "rounders". All falling in line with Jakes statement of no other rounders deck known to exist. With the new teasers, the theory is the burnt sienna deck is now the next deck on the calendar for release and its called "Madison Dealers".

Thoughts?

I reread the Instagram photo from Ricky Smith.  It does look like his sense of humor to mention "or I'm really good at Photoshop, etc."  I doubt the image is Photoshopped - and just because they didn't exist at the time, doesn't mean they don't exist now, right?

True... We will see... Madness

What happened to that meeting you were going to have with Ricky Smith? Have you been sworn to secrecy?

I actually saw him last week - forgot to mention it!  At least I remembered to wish him a belated happy birthday.

If I see him tomorrow (chances are small but not impossible) I'll try to remember.

I did get a message from the Black Club Concierge tonight - but no new deck.  They did say that Rounders are back in stock, along with Black Artifice and Blue LTD, and that until Sunday at midnight if you buy any 12 decks you'll get a free Sultan Republic, and if you buy six more on top of that you'll get a free Red LTD as well.  Plus Black Club members have a limited time offer of 25% off Artifact coins.

Oh, and there was that teaser trailer...

...with Daniel Madison...

...flashing around some cards...

...and did I mention that the same logo from his previous decks appears at the start of the teaser, in a brief flash?

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=OWeSkN0QtN0

[Card Player]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2OKHulpHxEo

Teaser #2 was posted yesterday, 06/12.

Madness #legacysaid

...and did I mention that the same logo from his previous decks appears at the start of the teaser, in a brief flash?

The Madison logo always flashes on his videos. Check out his "shenanigans" on the Ellusionist Revelations videos. However, the Teaser #2 has something a bit different at the beginning, an inverse color of his logo. Do I dare say WHITE?

[Don Boyer]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2OKHulpHxEo

Teaser #2 was posted yesterday, 06/12.

Madness #legacysaid

...and did I mention that the same logo from his previous decks appears at the start of the teaser, in a brief flash?

The Madison logo always flashes on his videos. Check out his "shenanigans" on the Ellusionist Revelations videos. However, the Teaser #2 has something a bit different at the beginning, an inverse color of his logo. Do I dare say WHITE?

No, you don't dare!  . I suspect you're reading too much into that.  It's a red herring at best...

[agera94]

Madison has built his career around deception and ruse. For all we know, it's actually a new line of shirts or some hand lotion.

[Paul.Middleton]

My gut is that it's a new deck which is a slightly variation of the rounders, but not the rounders.

Maybe a different colour with different courts (that are not his friend this time) but a different 'set' of people?

[Magic_Orthodoxy]

word on the street is it's a rounders gaff deck

[Don Boyer]

My guesses:

T-shirt - NO.

Hand lotion - double NO.

Rounders variant - eh, not with different court faces, at the least.

Gaff deck - not impossible; E hasn't produced a new gaff deck in a long time.  But I would think that they'd sooner make a gaff deck for their flagship product line, Artifice, than they would for Madison's Rounders.

Now, a GAFFED deck is possible.  E stopped production on its stripper decks - perhaps this is a revival.  I'm hoping it's not Invisible, Rising Card, Svengali or Forcing - they're useful but not as versatile.  Marked would be REALLY sweet, but he's done that already with his Players deck at T11.

Another possibility: Madison's all into the gambling mystique, especially when he talked about his Rounders ability to be used as shiners.  Maybe a revival of the shiner ring would be a sweet idea.

But I don't think it's any of that.  I think it really is just another back color for the Rounders.  Most people do play poker using a two-deck matched set, after all.  The deck's a hit, sold out at least once - it makes sense.

[Paul.Middleton]

Most people do play poker using a two-deck matched set, after all.  The deck's a hit, sold out at least once - it makes sense.

I understand that and take your point, but are Ellusionist really thinking about people playing poker? Vanda Cards yes, Encarded maybe, not sure about Ellusionist.