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Don Boyer · « **Reply #50 on:** March 22, 2013, 11:50:01 PM »

Quote from: billysac on March 22, 2013, 11:21:07 PM

Will any incentive be available to domestic buyers who get in on your next ace celebration pledge level?

I guess you missed the part about offering his deck, normally rewarded at $15.00, for only $11.00...

GBAllison · « **Reply #51 on:** March 23, 2013, 12:33:36 PM »

The Ace of diamonds is posted. That means there should be an additional 100 celebration earlybird prices available ($11) ... those will apparently arrive at 9:45AM west coast time (Noon:45 east coast).

For international buyers only, those celebration earlybirds are 2 for 1 ... $11 plus the $7 shipping gets you two decks, not one.

"If you are an International Backer that grabs one of these decks you will also receive a second Federal 52 Deck for free!"

P.S. I'll admit that those custom plate numbers for just $50 are just CALLING OUT to me. :-) Unfortunately, I don't have anything in *my* life that I can signify with a single letter followed by two digits. "B52" on the Queen of hearts to commemorate Love Shack? (Yeah, I can't even tell if the QoH is available, but that wouldn't be for me anyway.) ... Yeah, I'm reaching. But oh man, if I did ... I would SO be in there.

sway · « **Reply #52 on:** March 23, 2013, 12:52:22 PM »

Quote from: GBAllison on March 23, 2013, 12:33:36 PM

The Ace of diamonds is posted.
(...)
"If you are an International Backer that grabs one of these decks you will also receive a second Federal 52 Deck for free!"

billysac · « **Reply #53 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:57:20 PM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on March 22, 2013, 11:50:01 PM

Quote from: billysac on March 22, 2013, 11:21:07 PM
Will any incentive be available to domestic buyers who get in on your next ace celebration pledge level?

I guess you missed the part about offering his deck, normally rewarded at $15.00, for only $11.00...

No, no... no I didn't. But you can imagine what it'd be like if I did right?

The part I missed was the disservice international buyers apparently received to reward them with the extra deck for free, making them $9 each shipped as opposed to $11 for domestics.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #54 on:** March 24, 2013, 12:59:56 AM »

Quote from: billysac on March 23, 2013, 11:57:20 PM

The part I missed was the disservice international buyers apparently received to reward them with the extra deck for free, making them $9 each shipped as opposed to $11 for domestics.

On small orders, the international shipping is murder.

One deck, normal cost:
USA: $15
Int'l.: $22

Two decks, normal cost:
USA: $28 ($14 each)
Int'l.: $41 ($20.50 each)

Three decks, normal cost:
USA: $39 ($13 each)
Int'l.: $54 ($18 each)

It flattens out a bit more going up from there, but it's royally expensive for someone outside the USA, even people who are used to paying the extra shipping costs.

Using the Celebration specials:
USA: $11 (one deck only)
Int'l.: $18 (two decks, $9 each)

It's his way of getting more international investors interested in the deck - and it seems to be working. And let's not forget that many of the international recipients will also have Customs fees to look forward to paying as well - in the end, they'll probably be paying roughly as much as anyone else ordering through the special.

The Quadfather · « **Reply #55 on:** March 24, 2013, 08:25:56 AM »

I'm definitely going to back this. It looks almost good enough to eat! There's so many other good projects at the moment though that I'm going to have to be careful!

How do I change my address on kickstarter to one in the US? The difference in shipping to the US and to the UK is extraordinary. I'd still back the same amount of money but I'd be able to get more decks if I ship domestically.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #56 on:** March 24, 2013, 04:36:15 PM »

Quote from: The Quadfather on March 24, 2013, 08:25:56 AM

I'm definitely going to back this. It looks almost good enough to eat! There's so many other good projects at the moment though that I'm going to have to be careful!

How do I change my address on kickstarter to one in the US? The difference in shipping to the US and to the UK is extraordinary. I'd still back the same amount of money but I'd be able to get more decks if I ship domestically.

I'd imagine you have to go into your account settings. But all you really need to do is type in whatever address you want when answering the survey - in the end, that's what is used to determine where to ship your stuff. If you're shipping to a US address but you already pledged for an open project at the international rate, just edit your pledge to whatever you need it to be. It's too late to make changes to a closed project's pledge.

GBAllison · « **Reply #57 on:** March 25, 2013, 09:05:19 AM »

He just announced that he plans to drop the Bicycle logo. Wow.

I'll admit that I'm not a fan of the change. Things like foil and inks are just fru-fru to me. But this seems like a big change at this stage of the game.

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Change List:

1. Dropped the Bicycle Logo from the front (I will go into that in more detail at the end)

2. Kept alive the original Back design by adjusting it and moving it to the front of the box.

3. Shrunk the gaps around the edges. (Thanks guys for that input! Looks so much sweeter now.)

4. Incorporated the New Two Way back design by adding to the back of the box.

5. Completely redesigned the top.

So why did you drop the Bicycle Logo???

My main focus and goal is to get the highest quality cards and tuck case to you guys. I want these cards to be some of the finest in your collections. I had already dropped the Bicycle logo from the new Gold Certificate Box design and it looked so sweet I had to entertain the idea of doing it to the Fed 52 Box.

Also a huge part was cost.Just like with any brand or logo, you have to pay a fee to use their name. I would rather spend your pledges on quality upgrades (embossing, finishing,cardstock etc...) instead paying to use Bicycle's name. I have nothing against Bicycle and they have been nothing but awesome during this entire process, but you guys are my backers not Bicycle.

The new tuck design is certainly attractive enough ... but that's not the point:

CBJ · « **Reply #58 on:** March 25, 2013, 09:17:26 AM »

I can't express how disappointed I am that you have removed the "Bicycle" name from the tuckbox.
Unfortunately I may have to cancel my pledge now.

I think to be at $40,000 with over 1100 backers... then to all of a sudden CHANGE the main part of what everyone thought they were buying is bad business.

I prefer the Bicycle tuckbox.

Not a good start to my week

CBJ

CBJ · « **Reply #59 on:** March 25, 2013, 12:12:28 PM »

For those that are against the Bicycle name drop, he's posted some new pics of the BICYCLE deck to get people;s opinions...

please go and tell jackson you WANT it

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1722808047/federal-52-a-new-bicycle-playing-card-deck/posts/436684?ref=email&show_token=628e41360d40c66b

CBJ · « **Reply #60 on:** March 25, 2013, 12:37:17 PM »

Really sorry about the triple post...

Jackson just wrote on the KS campaign

"@everybody I WILL be keeping the Bicycle logo.

Throughout this process things will change and go threw iterations. Please continue to give me your feedback and comments as it helps me make the best decision with both the design and your wants in mind."

I couldn't be happier right now

CBJ

GBAllison · « **Reply #61 on:** March 25, 2013, 12:37:46 PM »

[EDIT - my post has been overtaken by events so I'll reboot:]
The Update that CBJ linked to was a whole new Update (#18) specifically for soliciting comments. And it was interesting to see a couple of his replies in the comment thread ... "I really wasn't thinking about the Bicycle Collectors when I was mulling this over" and "I think Kickstarter guidelines have locked me into the Bicycle Logo as I can not change the title of my project once its created. I'm indefferent either way I just want the best design, best cards, and to include all of you guys in the process."

BiggerDee · « **Reply #62 on:** March 25, 2013, 03:07:27 PM »

I like the cards enough to pleadge either way but when all is said and done, I think that the tuck looks a good bit better without the Bicycle logo. I can understand why some people want it, but I have many, many decks that don't display the logo (Such as Aurums), and that would look horrible with it. I love the folks at Bicycle, and support them in any way that I can, but every deck that has the hugo logo on the front screams "Designed by Bicycle" to me, as opposed to an independent designer. The Bicycle logo is emblazoned on the front of cards that I can pick up dirt ccheap at any grocery store and in my eyes at least, it kind of cheapens a custom deck. A fullly designed (no logo) tuck front says that the artist had the whole space to shocase his/her dream. Think of an artist putting a big art store logo on the top of their best work. Like I said, either way, I've been in since day one, and will stay in, and I understand and respect others' opinions on the matter.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #63 on:** March 25, 2013, 08:44:31 PM »

I'm not big on the brand thing either way - with or without. I think it looks better without, but it looks fine with. I definitely understand the motivation behind wanting to remove the Bicycle brand, because of all the possible extras a deck can have, to me that's the least of them.

nicknamehere · « **Reply #64 on:** March 26, 2013, 06:31:49 AM »

I'm going to be that person-

On your "Add Ons" image, you spelled "amount" wrong in the sentence "All pledge ammounts include shipping."

in case you wanted to fix it.

As for the use of the Bicycle logo, I too have no preference either way. It could be a concern that when performing with these cards, having the Bicycle logo would be beneficial in getting it across that the deck is in no way rigged to a suspicious audience. On the other hand, I can see that having the Bicycle logo could make a collection, when displayed as a whole, appear more cohesive. However, I too own many decks without the Bicycle logo that all look fine. For this deck, since the design (somewhat) repeats itself on the borders, I think the use of the Bicycle logo is fine. If using the Bicycle logo would sacrifice something absolutely gorgeous, I may have had some concerns.

CBJ · « **Reply #65 on:** March 26, 2013, 01:37:30 PM »

The new deck is available on the KS campaign... The Gold Certificate deck has been unlocked!

I'm liking it

CBJ

BiggerDee · « **Reply #66 on:** March 26, 2013, 01:54:18 PM »

I agree, great tuck and changes for the gold certificate deck. I'm already in for some. These are two very nice decks!

Don Boyer · « **Reply #67 on:** March 26, 2013, 06:57:24 PM »

It has to be one of the best-looking decks on KS right now, if not in the history of KS decks. Now I have to back this.

The Quadfather · « **Reply #68 on:** March 26, 2013, 08:10:01 PM »

Backed this and the gold cert deck today, probably for a little too much, but oh well. These decks deserve to be made!

JacksonRobinson · « **Reply #69 on:** March 26, 2013, 08:18:36 PM »

Thanks guys for all of your help and input on this deck!

Jackson

sway · « **Reply #70 on:** March 26, 2013, 08:52:28 PM »

Oh my! The new Gold Certificate deck is amazingly beautiful.

I just wish I could add it to my pledge without compromising my budget. I guess this one will have to wait

GBAllison · « **Reply #71 on:** March 27, 2013, 12:36:53 PM »

Jackson posted a revised idea for his third stretch goal deck. Instead of making it Private Reserve ... make it a natural pairing with the Gold Certificate ... obviously ... the Silver Certificate:

"Instead of the Reserve Note Deck why not do natural pair, The Gold Certificate Deck & A Silver Certificate Deck. The Silver Certificate will be Blue in color theme and have blue treasury seals on the front. I'm ok with doing either deck, I just wanted to get your thoughts and feedback on which one you would like me to do."

Seems like a great idea to me.

P.S. It looks to me like that $85K level for the stretch goal is definitely within reach. And if the third deck gets funded ... a clear shot at the Pedale record.

Oh yeah, here's what a Silver Certificate looks like, so you can see what he's talking about with the blue color scheme ...

sprouts1115 · « **Reply #72 on:** March 27, 2013, 06:51:14 PM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on March 25, 2013, 08:44:31 PM

I'm not big on the brand thing either way - with or without. I think it looks better without, but it looks fine with. I definitely understand the motivation behind wanting to remove the Bicycle brand, because of all the possible extras a deck can have, to me that's the least of them.

don - i agree with ya, but i do think the brand "Bicycle" needs to move to the side of the box to give more room for the artist. to me, the brand is "USPCC not "Bicycle" the card stock starts at "Bicycle" then you could also get "Bee" or "Aristocrat stock". USPCC has lots of brand cards. http://www.usplayingcard.com/pages/about_us/3.php i think the name Bicycle is synonymous with USPCC now. Bicycle is not the 800 pound gorilla in the room; it's USPCC. time for a change.

jackson - holy shit, i put silver certificate in google checked out the pictures and.... you have a wealth of images to steal.

i mean borrow. Blue, of course blue for your third deck. i'm starting to think not showing all rewards at the start of the kickstarer, but introducing them when stretch goals are achieved is a good thing. to be basic, if you give them a small border with design within the first border and then a thick ass border like in the real certificates that would make the them happy. who would have thought a money theme deck would be good. hell, Chinese money were the first cards. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playing_cards most kickstarts experience a slowing at this point. do expect a surge at the end; you have already met your kickstarter goal and then some.

The Quadfather · « **Reply #73 on:** March 27, 2013, 07:18:07 PM »

This has got to be one of the most funded playing card projects in kickstarter history, right? I'm really hoping it meets the next stretch goal of $85k!

Don Boyer · « **Reply #74 on:** March 27, 2013, 07:46:41 PM »

Quote from: The Quadfather on March 27, 2013, 07:18:07 PM

This has got to be one of the most funded playing card projects in kickstarter history, right? I'm really hoping it meets the next stretch goal of $85k!

It's not even close to the record, though it is moving along rather smoothly. The record was the Misc. Goods Co. deck by Pedale Design, which earn more than triple what this project has so far...