White Artifice Deck from Ellusionist

[Don Boyer]

This is looking very clean. As Don had mentioned prior, this is an inverse back design. As you all know the Artifice tuck boxes (Border or no Border) show the back design as it appears on the cards. This latest teaser of the box back I see no border. Hopefully that's only the box design. Maybe they fade to a white border on the actual cards. Based on what I see and the fact they are white cards, Ellusionist might not have seen any reason to have borders on this Tundra design. We will see... The no borders will make or break buying the decks for me. I'm a little more picky then most.

It's looking like a white deck with a white border - you should be very happy with it.

Is it me or are you stressing a lot over this deck? 

[magimago]

My favorite are still the red artifice, black and red seems to be a great combination.
I like white playing cards a lot, just for the artifice -series i find the backs a little bit boring, when compared to the other colors.
I m actualy curious if the faces will be strictly black and white as well, with red and black pips.

[Michael]

My favorite are still the red artifice, black and red seems to be a great combination.
I like white playing cards a lot, just for the artifice -series i find the backs a little bit boring, when compared to the other colors.
I m actualy curious if the faces will be strictly black and white as well, with red and black pips.

So kind of like their Ghosts? And I personally think the backs wouldn't be boring in white if the design isn't simply black ink but maybe metallic gray or maybe even that black with gold sparkled in (it escapes me which deck actually had that.... a Blaine deck?). I'm actually hoping that the pips would be done like the blue LTDs with red as usual but that steely gray color. That's what I'd like to see.... probably not what they'd actually do though.

[agera94]

The backs are borderless and the best part of it all... they aren't black 

[Don Boyer]

My favorite are still the red artifice, black and red seems to be a great combination.
I like white playing cards a lot, just for the artifice -series i find the backs a little bit boring, when compared to the other colors.
I m actualy curious if the faces will be strictly black and white as well, with red and black pips.

So kind of like their Ghosts? And I personally think the backs wouldn't be boring in white if the design isn't simply black ink but maybe metallic gray or maybe even that black with gold sparkled in (it escapes me which deck actually had that.... a Blaine deck?). I'm actually hoping that the pips would be done like the blue LTDs with red as usual but that steely gray color. That's what I'd like to see.... probably not what they'd actually do though.

I'm thinking maybe an icy blue-gray or a metallic silver for the reds - but definitely not a "Ghost"-style all-black with black-and-red indices.  There's no point in simply copying the concept.  As much as the "gunmetal blue" of the Titanium decks at T11 weren't as well received (they looked more gray than blue), they'd be perfect for this deck's red pips.

[Michael]

My favorite are still the red artifice, black and red seems to be a great combination.
I like white playing cards a lot, just for the artifice -series i find the backs a little bit boring, when compared to the other colors.
I m actualy curious if the faces will be strictly black and white as well, with red and black pips.

So kind of like their Ghosts? And I personally think the backs wouldn't be boring in white if the design isn't simply black ink but maybe metallic gray or maybe even that black with gold sparkled in (it escapes me which deck actually had that.... a Blaine deck?). I'm actually hoping that the pips would be done like the blue LTDs with red as usual but that steely gray color. That's what I'd like to see.... probably not what they'd actually do though.

I'm thinking maybe an icy blue-gray or a metallic silver for the reds - but definitely not a "Ghost"-style all-black with black-and-red indices.  There's no point in simply copying the concept.  As much as the "gunmetal blue" of the Titanium decks at T11 weren't as well received (they looked more gray than blue), they'd be perfect for this deck's red pips.

That would actually work as well so that the colors wouldn't be confusing like the purple Artifices. I like a steely gray or metallic silver or some similar shade for the reds as well. I actually liked the Titanium Bikes that T11 put out. But as much as I liked them, do you think the *gunmetal blue" be fitting of "tundra"? I guess I can see blue being in there for cold or something like that maybe.

[John B.]

that back is so beautiful. Thats what I said when I saw it. My friend was surprised when I said it was the deck not the girl that walked by.

[Don Boyer]

That would actually work as well so that the colors wouldn't be confusing like the purple Artifices. I like a steely gray or metallic silver or some similar shade for the reds as well. I actually liked the Titanium Bikes that T11 put out. But as much as I liked them, do you think the *gunmetal blue" be fitting of "tundra"? I guess I can see blue being in there for cold or something like that maybe.

The gunmetal blue was more gray than blue and reflective like ice - it would look right at home on an icy tundra.

that back is so beautiful. Thats what I said when I saw it. My friend was surprised when I said it was the deck not the girl that walked by.

It is pretty sweet...  But nicer than a girl?? 

[John B.]

That would actually work as well so that the colors wouldn't be confusing like the purple Artifices. I like a steely gray or metallic silver or some similar shade for the reds as well. I actually liked the Titanium Bikes that T11 put out. But as much as I liked them, do you think the *gunmetal blue" be fitting of "tundra"? I guess I can see blue being in there for cold or something like that maybe.

The gunmetal blue was more gray than blue and reflective like ice - it would look right at home on an icy tundra.

that back is so beautiful. Thats what I said when I saw it. My friend was surprised when I said it was the deck not the girl that walked by.

It is pretty sweet...  But nicer than a girl?? 

She was not ok, plus as far as girls goes there was another on my mind.

[Card Player]

This is looking very clean. As Don had mentioned prior, this is an inverse back design. As you all know the Artifice tuck boxes (Border or no Border) show the back design as it appears on the cards. This latest teaser of the box back I see no border. Hopefully that's only the box design. Maybe they fade to a white border on the actual cards. Based on what I see and the fact they are white cards, Ellusionist might not have seen any reason to have borders on this Tundra design. We will see... The no borders will make or break buying the decks for me. I'm a little more picky then most.

It's looking like a white deck with a white border - you should be very happy with it.

Is it me or are you stressing a lot over this deck? 

Nope, I'm not stressing. You might be coming to that conclusion based on my combined comments here and on the Fed52. It's simple... I either buy it, or I don't.

I don't know we're your seeing a boarder from this tuck design? It looks to be following suit with v1 and the purple v3 tuck box design (no border).

[Michael]

This is looking very clean. As Don had mentioned prior, this is an inverse back design. As you all know the Artifice tuck boxes (Border or no Border) show the back design as it appears on the cards. This latest teaser of the box back I see no border. Hopefully that's only the box design. Maybe they fade to a white border on the actual cards. Based on what I see and the fact they are white cards, Ellusionist might not have seen any reason to have borders on this Tundra design. We will see... The no borders will make or break buying the decks for me. I'm a little more picky then most.

It's looking like a white deck with a white border - you should be very happy with it.

Is it me or are you stressing a lot over this deck? 

Nope, I'm not stressing. You might be coming to that conclusion based on my combined comments here and on the Fed52. It's simple... I either buy it, or I don't.

I don't know we're your seeing a boarder from this tuck design? It looks to be following suit with v1 and the purple v3 tuck box design (no border).

With a white design, a white border is the same as no border isn't it? I mean assuming the stock is white of course and not made to look "vintage" like some of the D&D decks. But I guess those cards don't count as being "white".

[Don Boyer]

I don't know we're your seeing a boarder from this tuck design? It looks to be following suit with v1 and the purple v3 tuck box design (no border).

On a white deck, unless it's got a design printed into the bleed, "borderless" actually is a white border!


If the background of the back has a color and everything else applies, the deck's border is the background color.


A design going into the bleed (like Bee Diamond Backs or Texan Palmettos) are truly borderless.

[Gunshy1]

all of the v1 styled decks have a black border. or did people miss the black rim around the deck?

[Card Player]

With a white design, a white border is the same as no border isn't it? I mean assuming the stock is white of course and not made to look "vintage" like some of the D&D decks. But I guess those cards don't count as being "white".

True... That's really what I meant prior when I wrote Ellusionist not having the need to have a (defined clean white) border like v2 because the design itself is white. That also could meet my playing card preferred style. We will wait a see... The teaser is doing its job.

[mirciusx]

Here we are : front and back.

I guess they looks the same like others artifice decks. ( I'm still waiting for my order  )

[Card Player]

Here we are : front and back.

I guess they looks the same like others artifice decks. ( I'm still waiting for my order  )

They are very thin fade to white borders. Well played Ellusionist. That works for me!

You are right though, looking at the V1's, those fade to Black.

Questioning the choice to minimize the color RED for the Diamond and Heart Pips and Suits (Ghost Style). That's New for the Artifice.

[KPopFever605]

Yep! Ghost pips. Anyway, I'm liking the look of the deck overall. Just hope they don't put out a rainbow of colors. Ugh.

I guess they looks the same like others artifice decks. ( I'm still waiting for my order  )

What makes you think the design will not look like an Artifice deck?

[Don Boyer]

Honestly, though they look nice, I'm disappointed.  Bastard child of Artifice and Ghost.  Where's the originality?

Let me guess - there will be a black-and-white version named "Lunar" with black background, white pips, etc. like the Black Ghost deck...

[amosyzk]

Well, it looks like a white ghost deck with a diff back design, thats all.

[Michael]

Ugh I'm extremely disappointed with the pip coloring. Too bad cause I was looking forward to something fresh and different. Oh well. My wallet will be a little heavier at the end of the day than I expected.

[agera94]

What sort of pip colouring were you guys looking for?

[Michael]

What sort of pip colouring were you guys looking for?

I think we just didn't want to see the faces of the cards looking like their Ghost deck where it's just a minimalistic red and standard black. I personally was looking and hoping the red to be replaced with a gray or a metallic gray just to give it a little life/character separate from their other decks. I know the LTDs were kind of like that but I mean standard red and black? Not bad. But the Ghosts look exactly the same. All we have here is a white Artifice with Artifice courts and Ghost pips.

[agera94]

Ahh I see. Fair enough point. I guess from one perspective the colours make it a bit more practical for performing magic, however I can definitely see the idea behind the silver and metallic inks.

[Don Boyer]

Honestly, this deck isn't "Artifice Tundra" - it's "Artifice Ghost".  They really could have run with the tundra theme; a cold, wintry plain, stark winter colors, cold metallic ink in silver, etc.  This is really a letdown.  They're nice looking, but so devoid of originality - it's like they came up with it during a 420 session while watching Adult Swim for too long...  "Hey, man - the Artifice is a really popular deck, and so is the Ghost - what if we put them together?  That's like, twice as good, right?"  I would have preferred a whole new deck over this, really.

[Card Player]

Ugh I'm extremely disappointed with the pip coloring. Too bad cause I was looking forward to something fresh and different. Oh well. My wallet will be a little heavier at the end of the day than I expected.

I have to agree with you. I'm going to pass on this deck.

The back design in white (fade borders) works so well. I'm almost surprised they did not create a white deck a long time ago. The Pips kill it for me. In my opinion, design should never interfere with function (Color changes, Poker table eye recognition). There is a little bit of red but not enough. Using the ghost concept and calling it something entirely different (tundra) is also disappointing. They could have done something very cool with the white artifice decks and still kept the pips and court cards true to the artifice brand.

Honestly, this deck isn't "Artifice Tundra" - it's "Artifice Ghost".  They really could have run with the tundra theme; a cold, wintry plain, stark winter colors, cold metallic ink in silver, etc.  This is really a letdown.  They're nice looking, but so devoid of originality - it's like they came up with it during a 420 session while watching Adult Swim for too long...  "Hey, man - the Artifice is a really popular deck, and so is the Ghost - what if we put them together?  That's like, twice as good, right?"  I would have preferred a whole new deck over this, really.

Exactly!