My new line of CHRISTIAN decks

[John B.]

there is like no info on these decks. and its based in russia. Personally I would not get involved.

[Don Boyer]

Guys, the topic's getting way off-topic here - If you have more comments about the Suprymis deck, please post them in the topic about that deck.  Thanks.

[xx789m]

I should have the decks individually numbered, then find the biggest christian that backs it and send him number 666 just as a joke.

[Alex Willis]

I should have the decks individually numbered, then find the biggest christian that backs it and send him number 666 just as a joke.

Focus on making the deck first.  Jokes later.  And numbering decks is a pain beyond a handful that are intended for personalizing.

[xx789m]

This is the first draft. It's far from complete but this is just a base.................I got to do something about those pitchforks 

[Don Boyer]

This is the first draft. It's far from complete but this is just a base.................I got to do something about those pitchforks 

What, exactly must be done about them?  I think they're fine.  Perhaps toss in a little more "demonic" elements to balance the design a bit - it's heavy on the heavenly, light on the wicked.

[Alex Willis]

This is the first draft. It's far from complete but this is just a base.................I got to do something about those pitchforks 

What, exactly must be done about them?  I think they're fine.  Perhaps toss in a little more "demonic" elements to balance the design a bit - it's heavy on the heavenly, light on the wicked.

Not sure I agree.  It seems like a purgatory deck.  I thought this was supposed to be about heroes of the bible.

[xx789m]

This is the first draft. It's far from complete but this is just a base.................I got to do something about those pitchforks 

What, exactly must be done about them?  I think they're fine.  Perhaps toss in a little more "demonic" elements to balance the design a bit - it's heavy on the heavenly, light on the wicked.

Not sure I agree.  It seems like a purgatory deck.  I thought this was supposed to be about heroes of the bible.

This is a deck based on angels vs. demons or heaven vs. hell.................sort of like the archangel deck, but I feel like the theme of that deck was lost in the intricate design.

[Alex Willis]

This is the first draft. It's far from complete but this is just a base.................I got to do something about those pitchforks 

What, exactly must be done about them?  I think they're fine.  Perhaps toss in a little more "demonic" elements to balance the design a bit - it's heavy on the heavenly, light on the wicked.

Not sure I agree.  It seems like a purgatory deck.  I thought this was supposed to be about heroes of the bible.

This is a deck based on angels vs. demons or heaven vs. hell.................sort of like the archangel deck, but I feel like the theme of that deck was lost in the intricate design.

Perhaps you should base it on the 7 deadly sins.  The battle of angels and demons is a little overdone for a thousand or more years.

[xx789m]

thats a possibility

[Don Boyer]

This is the first draft. It's far from complete but this is just a base.................I got to do something about those pitchforks 

What, exactly must be done about them?  I think they're fine.  Perhaps toss in a little more "demonic" elements to balance the design a bit - it's heavy on the heavenly, light on the wicked.

Not sure I agree.  It seems like a purgatory deck.  I thought this was supposed to be about heroes of the bible.

This is a deck based on angels vs. demons or heaven vs. hell.................sort of like the archangel deck, but I feel like the theme of that deck was lost in the intricate design.

Perhaps you should base it on the 7 deadly sins.  The battle of angels and demons is a little overdone for a thousand or more years.

You say that like the seven deadly sins are a new concept or something!  They're nearly as old as Christianity itself.  In fact, there's very little about Christian themes and ideas that's new under the sun.

Working with duality in a deck of cards is much easier than working with seven deadly sins.  There's duality in a deck of cards already with red and black suits, while you'd be hard pressed to successfully divide a deck into seven of anything with ease.  Only way I can think of to do that would be to create four jokers, giving you fifty-six cards, allowing you to have eight cards per sin.  The simple, logical way to divide that up would be two values in all four suits per sin - for example,  all the 2s and 3s could be Pride, all the 4s and 5s could be Sloth, etc.

[John B.]

I feel if you go towards the 7 deadly sins you will lose a lot of your potential christian market. keep it more cheery and you have families who would buy a deck to support you. 7 deadly would not get you that. Would you want your child playing with a deck that talks about the 7 deadly sins?

[Alex Willis]

I feel if you go towards the 7 deadly sins you will lose a lot of your potential christian market. keep it more cheery and you have families who would buy a deck to support you. 7 deadly would not get you that. Would you want your child playing with a deck that talks about the 7 deadly sins?

I don't know that I want my child playing with an angels and demons deck.  But to Don's point, it would be easier to separate out the good and bad forces (duality).  it just seems that this deck concept started as a 'Heroes of the Bible' and has now gone to 'Angels and Demons'.  If your target is a Christian market, would a deck about battling mythical creatures (and yes I said it) be more popular than fundamental biblical characters?  I think if I show up to sunday school with an Angels and Demons deck I might get the boot.  (FYI - I believe in Angels and Demons, just without the wings and so literally battling for the human race).

But as we haven't seen anything of this deck otherwise, all i can go on is the card back which I do like.  I think it's very artistic and appealing.  IMO.

[xx789m]

If you remember, I didn't say a deck of cards. I said a LINE OF DECKS, meaning there will be more. Fundemental biblical characters will most likely be the second one.

[Alex Willis]

If you remember, I didn't say a deck of cards. I said a LINE OF DECKS, meaning there will be more. Fundemental biblical characters will most likely be the second one.

Ah, well there you go.  My bad for misinterpreting.  Good luck on this deck, I look forward to seeing some of the artwork. 

[xx789m]

If you remember, I didn't say a deck of cards. I said a LINE OF DECKS, meaning there will be more. Fundemental biblical characters will most likely be the second one.

Ah, well there you go.  My bad for misinterpreting.  Good luck on this deck, I look forward to seeing some of the artwork.

Thanks. I hope you guys will like it.

[Don Boyer]

I feel if you go towards the 7 deadly sins you will lose a lot of your potential christian market. keep it more cheery and you have families who would buy a deck to support you. 7 deadly would not get you that. Would you want your child playing with a deck that talks about the 7 deadly sins?

Why not?  It's in the Bible, isn't it?  How can you avoid the 7 deadly sins if you don't even know what they are?

I don't know that I want my child playing with an angels and demons deck.  But to Don's point, it would be easier to separate out the good and bad forces (duality).  it just seems that this deck concept started as a 'Heroes of the Bible' and has now gone to 'Angels and Demons'.  If your target is a Christian market, would a deck about battling mythical creatures (and yes I said it) be more popular than fundamental biblical characters?  I think if I show up to sunday school with an Angels and Demons deck I might get the boot.  (FYI - I believe in Angels and Demons, just without the wings and so literally battling for the human race).

But as we haven't seen anything of this deck otherwise, all i can go on is the card back which I do like.  I think it's very artistic and appealing.  IMO.

If you showed up to Sunday School with an Angels and Demons deck - and the Angels were WINNING - that might be a different story...

As was pointed out, he's planning a series of decks and talking about them pretty much all at once, so I can understand if it seems a little confusing as he shifts from one deck idea to the next.  My advice, xx789m, would be to stick for now to a SINGLE IDEA and see that to fruition before chasing down all the other ideas, because a) we have yet to see you deliver anything, and b) it makes you sound like a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none, when you should simply sound like a master.  Stop talking the talk and start walking the walk.  (And choose a board name that sounds more like a person and less like a pornographic droid...) 

[xx789m]

I feel if you go towards the 7 deadly sins you will lose a lot of your potential christian market. keep it more cheery and you have families who would buy a deck to support you. 7 deadly would not get you that. Would you want your child playing with a deck that talks about the 7 deadly sins?

Why not?  It's in the Bible, isn't it?  How can you avoid the 7 deadly sins if you don't even know what they are?

I don't know that I want my child playing with an angels and demons deck.  But to Don's point, it would be easier to separate out the good and bad forces (duality).  it just seems that this deck concept started as a 'Heroes of the Bible' and has now gone to 'Angels and Demons'.  If your target is a Christian market, would a deck about battling mythical creatures (and yes I said it) be more popular than fundamental biblical characters?  I think if I show up to sunday school with an Angels and Demons deck I might get the boot.  (FYI - I believe in Angels and Demons, just without the wings and so literally battling for the human race).

But as we haven't seen anything of this deck otherwise, all i can go on is the card back which I do like.  I think it's very artistic and appealing.  IMO.

If you showed up to Sunday School with an Angels and Demons deck - and the Angels were WINNING - that might be a different story...

As was pointed out, he's planning a series of decks and talking about them pretty much all at once, so I can understand if it seems a little confusing as he shifts from one deck idea to the next.  My advice, xx789m, would be to stick for now to a SINGLE IDEA and see that to fruition before chasing down all the other ideas, because a) we have yet to see you deliver anything, and b) it makes you sound like a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none, when you should simply sound like a master.  Stop talking the talk and start walking the walk.  (And choose a board name that sounds more like a person and less like a pornographic droid...) 

pornographic droid. Good one.......I'll have to remember that XD

[xx789m]

And here is the revised draft with a bit of color. I'm liking it. The fire and pitchforks for demonic, and the big sword and halo for angelic.actually the color is really the only thing thats "revised" and it was added, not revised...

[Don Boyer]

And here is the revised draft with a bit of color. I'm liking it. The fire and pitchforks for demonic, and the big sword and halo for angelic.actually the color is really the only thing thats "revised" and it was added, not revised...

Could you post a larger image?  Watermark it if you must, but that's a bit small for my old eyes...

[xx789m]

Heaven forbid you zoom in......

[MrMollusk]

Heaven forbid you zoom in......

Bro, do you know how resolution works?

[Don Boyer]

Heaven forbid you zoom in......

Bro, do you know how resolution works?

Oh, well, if THAT'S what it's gonna look like, hell, count me in!  I love huge pixels in print! 

[sprouts1115]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_virtues

http://www.virtuescience.com/virtuelist.html#.UZ87CZXNz8s

Here are 49 virtues.  If you take the  vise versa of the virtue you have a possible deck of  98 cards.  You would probably want to pick the best ones to fit your 54 card deck of angles and demons.   I'm sorta on the same path.  This is some of my early research...

[xx789m]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_virtues

http://www.virtuescience.com/virtuelist.html#.UZ87CZXNz8s

Here are 49 virtues.  If you take the  vise versa of the virtue you have a possible deck of  98 cards.  You would probably want to pick the best ones to fit your 54 card deck of angles and demons.   I'm sorta on the same path.  This is some of my early research...

what the actual fuck does that mean?