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Lee Asher Jerry's Nuggets Sale 2013
« on: April 23, 2013, 02:42:34 AM »
 

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Hello guys!
I visit Lee Asher's site most days and yesterday noticed he's announced a date for the first sale of 72 decks!
The date is....
The 30Th of May at 9PM EST!
Or for us UK people it;s 3AM on the 31st of May
I hope you're all as excited as me for this and he is announcing prices before April ends
http://www.leeasher.com/playing_cards/jerrys_nugget/index.html
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Re: Lee Asher Jerry's Nuggets Sale 2013
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 02:54:35 AM »
 

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Hello guys!
I visit Lee Asher's site most days and yesterday noticed he's announced a date for the first sale of 72 decks!
The date is....
The 30Th of May at 9PM EST!
Or for us UK people it;s 3AM on the 31st of May
I hope you're all as excited as me for this and he is announcing prices before April ends
http://www.leeasher.com/playing_cards/jerrys_nugget/index.html
-Benny

I'm definitely excited! If the structure is like last year's sale, I'm hoping I can manage to get them cheapest :)) (doubtful though)
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Re: Lee Asher Jerry's Nuggets Sale 2013
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2013, 03:59:59 AM »
 

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Hello guys!
I visit Lee Asher's site most days and yesterday noticed he's announced a date for the first sale of 72 decks!
The date is....
The 30Th of May at 9PM EST!
Or for us UK people it;s 3AM on the 31st of May
I hope you're all as excited as me for this and he is announcing prices before April ends
http://www.leeasher.com/playing_cards/jerrys_nugget/index.html
-Benny

If it is indeed at 9:00pm Eastern (that would be EDT, as in Eastern Daylight Time, since EST, or Eastern Standard Time, doesn't occur again until the first Sunday in November), then it would be at 01:00 Greenwich Mean Time, or 2:00am London Summer Time.  Try buying at 3:00am and you'll miss it!  :))


I'm definitely excited! If the structure is like last year's sale, I'm hoping I can manage to get them cheapest :)) (doubtful though)

Didn't he sell off more of them last year?  He did mention on the site there'd be TWO purchasing windows this year.  Perhaps half now, half later?

Either way, the odds of getting in at the cheapest tier are really slim.  I'm not even going to attempt it.  Even if I did get one of the cheap decks, it's more than I'd be willing to pay.
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Re: Lee Asher Jerry's Nuggets Sale 2013
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2013, 04:13:30 AM »
 

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I'm definitely excited! If the structure is like last year's sale, I'm hoping I can manage to get them cheapest :)) (doubtful though)

Didn't he sell off more of them last year?  He did mention on the site there'd be TWO purchasing windows this year.  Perhaps half now, half later?

Either way, the odds of getting in at the cheapest tier are really slim.  I'm not even going to attempt it.  Even if I did get one of the cheap decks, it's more than I'd be willing to pay.

If memory serves me right, he did sell more off last year. And if by chance I did get the cheapest tier, it won't even be close to cheap but I would highly consider buying them. Never had the pleasure of even touching a pair of these. To own them would be amazing! Plus, I figure, if people can pay $100 for an uncut that just gets hung on a wall, why not a deck you'd actually use (WARNING: by no means am I implying I'd ever pay $100 for just any deck. I'd just heavily consider this due to the history and it being our "holy grail.").
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Re: Lee Asher Jerry's Nuggets Sale 2013
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2013, 05:01:57 AM »
 

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If memory serves me right, he did sell more off last year. And if by chance I did get the cheapest tier, it won't even be close to cheap but I would highly consider buying them. Never had the pleasure of even touching a pair of these. To own them would be amazing! Plus, I figure, if people can pay $100 for an uncut that just gets hung on a wall, why not a deck you'd actually use (WARNING: by no means am I implying I'd ever pay $100 for just any deck. I'd just heavily consider this due to the history and it being our "holy grail.").

I handled a pack of those once, only briefly.  I thought they were nice, but I'm not so sure they're "three-hundred-bucks-a-pack" nice, if you catch my drift.  I was actually more interested in another pack I handled that day - that was nearly two-and-a-half times OLDER yet in incredible condition.

There's plenty of great decks to be had that don't cost anywhere near as much; the market is overinflated for that deck because of the deck's celebrity magician connection and speculators buying it up in the hopes it will go up in value even further.  To them I say, good luck, but it's not my "Holy Grail".  Even if I had money to burn, I'd be very unlikely to buy a pack, and certainly not a new, sealed one.
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Re: Lee Asher Jerry's Nuggets Sale 2013
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2013, 07:02:40 AM »
 

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Thank you for the correction! I used a Yahoo post because I had very little time to post!
I have a maximum of $200 for the deck and another £25 for customs! I'm hoping to get one!
I will be having a friend over and seeing who can get the best price.
Guys if you'll notice he's selling 72 now and probably another 72 later in the year because he always sells a gross.
Don I see your point but in the UK to get an opened one is £140 at last eBay sale, that is enough to get a sealed off Lee
Sorry for the rushed posting I had to get a bus, I just noticed no-one had posted yet!
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Re: Lee Asher Jerry's Nuggets Sale 2013
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2013, 10:24:06 AM »
 

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2013, 12:35:04 PM »
 

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I can see the majority of the 72 decks being around $200 with a few at $99 and $150
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2013, 12:45:25 PM »
 

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I was able to get a deck from the 2nd or 3rd tier last time, MUCH less than what they go for on eBay and it was indeed a perfect sample. If you can swing it I can recommend the sale, just act FAST (I waited about 2 sec too long and that cost me $50 if I recall). :)
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Re: Lee Asher Jerry's Nuggets Sale 2013
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2013, 01:08:27 PM »
 

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Encarded, How much did you get your's for then?
I'm aiming to spend $160 on one if possible but I can stretch $60 more :)
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2013, 02:40:46 PM »
 

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As soon as the $99 tier pops up it will pretty much instantly rise through to around $250. Don't be disheartened by this. Wait a few minutes and the prices will rise and float back down to around ~$200 as people decide to not make their purchase.
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2013, 03:02:02 PM »
 

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Encarded, How much did you get your's for then?
I'm aiming to spend $160 on one if possible but I can stretch $60 more :)

I think I managed at $150 if memory serves. So that was probably Tier 2, and I think there were only 3 at the $99 level. As I said, act fast.
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Re: Lee Asher Jerry's Nuggets Sale 2013
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2013, 03:40:56 PM »
 

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I realize that this is probably a silly question, and is subject to personal opinion, but what is the maximum that the hardcore card folks (that would be you, the one reading this) have as your maximum price that you would pay for the deck? Not a "at any price" maximum, but what you would be comfortable paying as your max. I'm just curious as to the average maximum of those of you that respond. It my mind, that's a more true-to-life valuation of the deck than an eBay sale, for example. Whether or not you guard them in a safe deposit box, in original condition, or rip the cello off and start fanning, your valuation input would be appreciated. Just curious! Thanks in advance! This should be interesting! :-)
 

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2013, 03:46:02 PM »
 

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I would say $250 as my maximum and that's a complete stretch
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2013, 03:47:07 PM »
 

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I realize that this is probably a silly question, and is subject to personal opinion, but what is the maximum that the hardcore card folks (that would be you, the one reading this) have as your maximum price that you would pay for the deck? Not a "at any price" maximum, but what you would be comfortable paying as your max. I'm just curious as to the average maximum of those of you that respond. It my mind, that's a more true-to-life valuation of the deck than an eBay sale, for example. Whether or not you guard them in a safe deposit box, in original condition, or rip the cello off and start fanning, your valuation input would be appreciated. Just curious! Thanks in advance! This should be interesting! :-)

For the sale last year, I set myself a limit of $200. I was mainly content on getting it into my collection, however it wasn't a do or die.
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2013, 06:36:40 PM »
 

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I can see the majority of the 72 decks being around $200 with a few at $99 and $150

I don't see that.  The low tiers will likely be smaller because of this being a smaller release of decks, only half what he normally puts out.  I think the majority will be higher than $200 - his higher tiers get close to market value FAST.  But like all of this, it's conjecture until Lee posts the tier list!  :))
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2013, 10:08:44 PM »
 

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I really like what Asher does with his deck sales. I was there last year, and I had so much adrenaline to see the live prices fluctuate before your very eyes. What's tricky is that you can see the prices drop, but you don't know it that price will be the lowest. By the time you decide to click the button, it's already to late, and the price already rose. I'm telling you, it messes with your mind a lot.

However, if you act extremely fast, you can score an amazing deal on the "holy grail" of decks.

With that being said, it begs me to ask: How many decks does he have. This is at least his third year into this game, and he has sold a gross on average, each time. How many is he stockpiling? He must have at least three grosses and maybe more if he decide to continue it.

On the bright side, his stockpile of cards have proved beneficial for some people regardless if they buy some. I have a coveted signed card from him on a J-Nugg. :))
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2013, 12:17:19 AM »
 

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I really like what Asher does with his deck sales. I was there last year, and I had so much adrenaline to see the live prices fluctuate before your very eyes. What's tricky is that you can see the prices drop, but you don't know it that price will be the lowest. By the time you decide to click the button, it's already to late, and the price already rose. I'm telling you, it messes with your mind a lot.

However, if you act extremely fast, you can score an amazing deal on the "holy grail" of decks.

With that being said, it begs me to ask: How many decks does he have. This is at least his third year into this game, and he has sold a gross on average, each time. How many is he stockpiling? He must have at least three grosses and maybe more if he decide to continue it.

On the bright side, his stockpile of cards have proved beneficial for some people regardless if they buy some. I have a coveted signed card from him on a J-Nugg. :))

He has a fair amount for personal use, to be sure, but I believe he has a secret supplier for these sales, someone who stocked up years ago when they were cheap - probably when they were still selling in the gift shop at the casino.  I'm sure he's paying the "wholesale" version of the market value, then reselling for a profit.  If he wasn't making money off of it, he'd have little incentive to continue.

According to everything I've heard about these decks, there were a handful of tractor trailers loaded with these cards, shipped straight from Cincinnati.  Casinos buy in BULK, big-time, 'cause they go through cards like crazy, hundreds or even thousands of decks in a day, depending on the size of the place.  While it's not clear whether these were ever intended for use on the floor, they were certainly made in that kind of bulk volume.  Picture a squared-off stack of twelve brick boxes - one gross.  I'll call it a "case", since that was probably how many were in a single shipping box.  Imagine how many of those cases would fit in a semi-truck's trailer.  Multiply that by a few trucks.  That's a LOT of decks, a HUGE number.  Even today it's not unusual for casinos to buy in similar volumes, though you would have to account for all those poker tables that no longer use paper cards, just plastic - though I'd bet even those get swapped out regularly as well, no different than paper.

But I'm rambling.  The point is, there was a lot of these decks made.  They weren't hot sellers in the gift shop, like people thought of them as rare and precious objects - they were cards, disposable and cheap, and you only need so many decks when you play.  (Normal people don't generally buy decks by the brick, like us weirdos!)  A few people, mostly magicians, had the foresight to see these were well-made using extinct processes and wouldn't last forever, and they bought them up in bulk back in the late '80s and early '90s until they were finally sold out.  If anything, the casino probably gave them a bulk discount.  It would make sense, especially if it was a deck meant for the floor that was set aside after the order was placed, leaving them with a huge amount of "souvenir decks" in their inventory that sat around for over 20 years, maybe close to 30 (I can't recall when they sold out).
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Re: Lee Asher Jerry's Nuggets Sale 2013
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2013, 04:10:25 AM »
 

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These guys must be kicking themselves with how much they can sell the decks for.  ;D
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2013, 05:55:36 AM »
 

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These guys must be kicking themselves with how much they can sell the decks for.  ;D

If by "these guys" you mean the Jerry's Nugget Casino, they've been sold out of those decks for close to two decades - they made their money on them, and to them, the value of these decks today is probably more like a drop in the bucket for what a casino pulls in.  Bear in mind there was a reason they've gone up in price, and it's not just because they're such great cards.  They're scarce - they weren't so when the casino was selling them.  They didn't become scarce until the casino sold out!
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2013, 06:43:45 AM »
 

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My bad Don, the wording with my post wasn't the greatest. I was referring to the people who bought heaps at the time when they were being sold in the gift shop, and now they're laughing all the way to the bank.  :P
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2013, 12:46:12 PM »
 

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I have this fantasy that I'll walk into a card collecting shop or some hobby/collecting shop and find these for $5 because the shop owners don't know how much the going market value (if you can even find them being sold) is. Or even a thrift shop of some sorts and find the same thing. Unfortunately, I doubt I'm lucky enough :))

If he does tier them like in the past, I'm hoping I can pick one up from Asher for $100. Don't know my upper limit but that actually might be it.
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2013, 01:19:29 PM »
 

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I really like what Asher does with his deck sales. I was there last year, and I had so much adrenaline to see the live prices fluctuate before your very eyes. What's tricky is that you can see the prices drop, but you don't know it that price will be the lowest. By the time you decide to click the button, it's already to late, and the price already rose. I'm telling you, it messes with your mind a lot.

However, if you act extremely fast, you can score an amazing deal on the "holy grail" of decks.

With that being said, it begs me to ask: How many decks does he have. This is at least his third year into this game, and he has sold a gross on average, each time. How many is he stockpiling? He must have at least three grosses and maybe more if he decide to continue it.

On the bright side, his stockpile of cards have proved beneficial for some people regardless if they buy some. I have a coveted signed card from him on a J-Nugg. :))

I talked with him a bit last year about the Nuggets, and I believe he actually has very few of his own and uses those mainly for the signed cards he gives away. I think that every deck he sells is from an overseas supplier and he is just the middleman.
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Re: Lee Asher Jerry's Nuggets Sale 2013
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2013, 10:42:36 PM »
 

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They didn't become scarce until the casino sold out!
If that's the case, how come these specific decks are such a staple in our hobby? I'm sure many other casinos sold out, but done of their decks have reached the height of this deck. I know handling may play an issue, but can it play this big of an issue?
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