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« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2013, 09:14:48 PM »
 

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I ended up getting the audio book.  I hope it's good, it's 27 hours. 
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« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2013, 10:13:15 PM »
 

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Is the book any good?

I'm not a big reader, but something about this project intrigued me to get the book. I am really enjoying it. I would liken reading this to watching a Quentin Tarantino movie. If this was to be made into a movie. I think he would be the perfect director.
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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2013, 01:38:22 AM »
 

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Sounds like I might be interested in reading it.  Since I'm getting the deck I feel like I should read the book as well.  If the audio book is 27 hours this must be a massive undertaking!  Backing a deck and I get a homework assignment. ;)
 

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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2013, 03:50:02 AM »
 

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Sounds like I might be interested in reading it.  Since I'm getting the deck I feel like I should read the book as well.  If the audio book is 27 hours this must be a massive undertaking!  Backing a deck and I get a homework assignment. ;)


I'm dyslexic so I will wait for the movie to come out,  however I did pledge, just to get The White Rabbit deck
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« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2013, 07:24:06 AM »
 

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I'm dyslexic so I will wait for the movie to come out,  however I did pledge, just to get The White Rabbit deck

While I like the White Rabbit deck, it was a bit of a let down with the Add-on Regular people faces.  Those people who paid to have thier faces characterized on the cards.  You go from wonder(land)ful fantasy images to Mary Jane down the street as the queen of hearts.  I thought the Queen was supposed to be a bitch, not a pleasant housewife.  (Not that some housewives can't be wickedly evil, just look at the Real Housewives of Lancaster County:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o896InWRLDg)
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« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2013, 10:09:08 AM »
 

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$303 grand and no end in sight - well, in six days, maybe, but I can't see that far!

He's already got Neil Gaiman as the first joker - at $310K, they unlock Felicia Day as the second one!  They'll probably reach that by lunchtime...

This is, what, DOUBLE the previous record so far?  Anyone ever see a deck break a half-million?
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« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2013, 11:16:58 AM »
 

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$303 grand and no end in sight - well, in six days, maybe, but I can't see that far!

He's already got Neil Gaiman as the first joker - at $310K, they unlock Felicia Day as the second one!  They'll probably reach that by lunchtime...

This is, what, DOUBLE the previous record so far?  Anyone ever see a deck break a half-million?

Felicia Day as a Joker?  Wow, now I want the deck even more.  But I already pledged for a few.  perhaps I should add the full uncut sheet.
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« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2013, 07:07:34 PM »
 

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I like this quote from Encarded.  {Prepare yourselves for a new raft of card projects "based on the book/character/etc" as someone else is going to try to cash in on this.}
 

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« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2013, 07:52:25 PM »
 

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I like this quote from Encarded.  {Prepare yourselves for a new raft of card projects "based on the book/character/etc" as someone else is going to try to cash in on this.}

My current deck is based on novels by Jules Verne and Edgar Rice Burroughs, but it was designed and planned long before Albino Dragon announced what they were doing.  My first deck was based on my own novel.  Good news is that my future decks are not based on novels.  But that brings up another point, people are going to see that someone made over $300K on playing cards, so everyone one and their dog will be putting up playing cards, book related or not.  It's going to make it hard for the decks  I plan on launching in the future as now I will have to compete with every Tom, Dick and Lazy.  If your deck is good, people  will want it, but if they have to wade through a hundred decks, they may never see it.  And if they look at 4 or 5 really crappy decks, they'll assume all the decks are crap.  :(
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This is, what, DOUBLE the previous record so far?  Anyone ever see a deck break a half-million?

I wonder how much the deck by it's self would have brought in with out all the add-on's
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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2013, 02:22:12 AM »
 

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I like this quote from Encarded.  {Prepare yourselves for a new raft of card projects "based on the book/character/etc" as someone else is going to try to cash in on this.}

We've already been experiencing this.  Three of the four Albino Dragon decks are based on literary works, while the one that isn't is based on a genre that started with literature.

Hell, we even have people creating decks that not just are based on books, but LOOK like books!

Every Cthulhu deck, every Jules Verne deck, every Alice in Wonderland deck, every steampunk deck, every cyberpunk deck - all originate from literary works either directly or as a genre.  One could even argue the same about the zombie decks, since before the zombie decks, before the zombie TV shows and movies, there were zombie stories...and you can't swing a dead corpse around Kickstarter without hitting a zombie deck...  :))

Ironic, since most people into custom cards are in an age group that as a whole today is practically allergic to books...


My current deck is based on novels by Jules Verne and Edgar Rice Burroughs, but it was designed and planned long before Albino Dragon announced what they were doing.  My first deck was based on my own novel.  Good news is that my future decks are not based on novels.  But that brings up another point, people are going to see that someone made over $300K on playing cards, so everyone one and their dog will be putting up playing cards, book related or not.  It's going to make it hard for the decks  I plan on launching in the future as now I will have to compete with every Tom, Dick and Lazy.  If your deck is good, people  will want it, but if they have to wade through a hundred decks, they may never see it.  And if they look at 4 or 5 really crappy decks, they'll assume all the decks are crap.  :(

We were having that already.  But it doesn't take long before the crap gets swept away.  The opportunists who have no real love of playing cards and just want to make big bucks will see that it's not all that easy and requires real work to make something even moderately successful - and by successful, I'm not talking about a deck with a goal under a thousand bucks made by a print-on-demand company like Zazzle.  Those decks are the laziest of the lazy, like that "Impractical Joker" deck; no only could he not be bothered to make a real design, he couldn't even be bothered to find a quality printer that didn't use 100% bog-standard faces.

The biggest problem with finding GOOD deck projects (or ANY deck projects, for that matter) has everything to do, in my opinion, with the lousy way that Kickstarter displays its search results.  There's zero rhyme or reason to it, no way to sort out the completed projects from the ones still running, they aren't in alphabetical order, chronologically order by start date, chronological order by end date - or any other order beyond tossing darts at a list.  It really feels at times like random.org does their sorting for them.  Fix THAT, and maybe people will start finding things more easily around there...


This is, what, DOUBLE the previous record so far?  Anyone ever see a deck break a half-million?

I wonder how much the deck by it's self would have brought in with out all the add-on's

The add-ons in this card project weren't any more or less exceptional than others that have gone before it: dice, t-shirts, poker chips/sets, coins, 'fridge magnets, art prints, even a few bits of jewelry.  What made this really blow up were, as I see it, the stretch goals.  Celebrities appearing as characters in the deck?  Not something you see every day...
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« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2013, 03:27:24 PM »
 

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This is, what, DOUBLE the previous record so far?  Anyone ever see a deck break a half-million?

I wonder how much the deck by it's self would have brought in with out all the add-on's

05/09/13- project starts with 3 pledge levels only. 1 deck $11, 2-$20, 3-$30. no add on's-is a limited deck- max you can get is 3 decks
05/16/13- $36,000 pledged- 5/17 card cover added-5/19 uncut sheet added
05/20/13- $48,000 pledged- chip sets added-05/23 art prints added
05/28/13-$$77,000 pledged-2nd color deck(unlimited $10 each)is added-5/30 custom  poker cases added
06/01/13- $93,000 pledged - average $3875 per day w/12 days left=$139,500. At this point only normal add on's. If they had not added anymore items, I think they would
                                              have beat the record, considering the last 2 day pop.
06/02/13- This is when it blows up, and all the stretch goals, and add on's really get going.

                 7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000 paid to have their likeness on a card. =$5,900
                  Something for some designers to think about


06/09/13- 3:25 pm est. $352,725 pledged. 8,341 backers.  4 days, 5 hours, 45 min to go

                My final projection- $402,000

                 Total of all other live(26) decks now-$162,000


Say what you will. pretty remarkable project.
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« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2013, 01:22:18 AM »
 

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                 7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000 paid to have their likeness on a card. =$5,900
                  Something for some designers to think about

The reason for that has MUCH more to do with the novel upon which the deck is based than people wanting their faces on a playing card deck.  It would be equivalent to someone circa 1960 creating a playing card deck based on the Ian Fleming "James Bond" novels (this is BEFORE the famous movies) and offering people a chance to buy their way into being the faces of characters from the books with their likenesses on the cards.  That has a lot less to do with the designer, a lot more to do with the books.  Same would hold true if it was a Harry Potter deck being created before the movies came out and you could pay to have your likeness as a fellow student or an instructor at Hogwart's represented on the cards.

It doesn't hurt that three of the other faces in the deck are moderately well-known celebrities...  :))
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« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2013, 04:59:55 PM »
 

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                 7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000 paid to have their likeness on a card. =$5,900
                  Something for some designers to think about

The reason for that has MUCH more to do with the novel upon which the deck is based than people wanting their faces on a playing card deck.  It would be equivalent to someone circa 1960 creating a playing card deck based on the Ian Fleming "James Bond" novels (this is BEFORE the famous movies) and offering people a chance to buy their way into being the faces of characters from the books with their likenesses on the cards.  That has a lot less to do with the designer, a lot more to do with the books.  Same would hold true if it was a Harry Potter deck being created before the movies came out and you could pay to have your likeness as a fellow student or an instructor at Hogwart's represented on the cards.

It doesn't hurt that three of the other faces in the deck are moderately well-known celebrities...  :))

I actually put that statement in because of a previous comment by you(in another topic). I don't remember the exact comment, but you were basically saying it was a popular add on to make money. This project is proof pudding that it works in the right situations. Take Alex Willis' deck "Victorian Adventure". If he was to add pledges for $50-100 extra for likenesses to be added. Its an add on that cost him nothing but time. Even if he only gets 1 or 2 people, still a couple hundred dollars extra, for work he was going to do anyway.
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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2013, 12:00:55 AM »
 

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                 7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000 paid to have their likeness on a card. =$5,900
                  Something for some designers to think about

The reason for that has MUCH more to do with the novel upon which the deck is based than people wanting their faces on a playing card deck.  It would be equivalent to someone circa 1960 creating a playing card deck based on the Ian Fleming "James Bond" novels (this is BEFORE the famous movies) and offering people a chance to buy their way into being the faces of characters from the books with their likenesses on the cards.  That has a lot less to do with the designer, a lot more to do with the books.  Same would hold true if it was a Harry Potter deck being created before the movies came out and you could pay to have your likeness as a fellow student or an instructor at Hogwart's represented on the cards.

It doesn't hurt that three of the other faces in the deck are moderately well-known celebrities...  :))

I actually put that statement in because of a previous comment by you(in another topic). I don't remember the exact comment, but you were basically saying it was a popular add on to make money. This project is proof pudding that it works in the right situations. Take Alex Willis' deck "Victorian Adventure". If he was to add pledges for $50-100 extra for likenesses to be added. Its an add on that cost him nothing but time. Even if he only gets 1 or 2 people, still a couple hundred dollars extra, for work he was going to do anyway.

True.  When I mentioned it was popular, I meant with the project creators, not so much with the backers.  But it's really just found money, in a certain way.

BTW: "7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000" adds up to $5,900 - which is less than 2% of a project this size!  $392K and counting...  They even added a marked version of the unlimited-edition deck in red!
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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2013, 01:22:50 AM »
 

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                 7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000 paid to have their likeness on a card. =$5,900
                  Something for some designers to think about

The reason for that has MUCH more to do with the novel upon which the deck is based than people wanting their faces on a playing card deck.  It would be equivalent to someone circa 1960 creating a playing card deck based on the Ian Fleming "James Bond" novels (this is BEFORE the famous movies) and offering people a chance to buy their way into being the faces of characters from the books with their likenesses on the cards.  That has a lot less to do with the designer, a lot more to do with the books.  Same would hold true if it was a Harry Potter deck being created before the movies came out and you could pay to have your likeness as a fellow student or an instructor at Hogwart's represented on the cards.

It doesn't hurt that three of the other faces in the deck are moderately well-known celebrities...  :))

I actually put that statement in because of a previous comment by you(in another topic). I don't remember the exact comment, but you were basically saying it was a popular add on to make money. This project is proof pudding that it works in the right situations. Take Alex Willis' deck "Victorian Adventure". If he was to add pledges for $50-100 extra for likenesses to be added. Its an add on that cost him nothing but time. Even if he only gets 1 or 2 people, still a couple hundred dollars extra, for work he was going to do anyway.

True.  When I mentioned it was popular, I meant with the project creators, not so much with the backers.  But it's really just found money, in a certain way.

BTW: "7 people @$500, 2 people @$700, and 1 person @$1,000" adds up to $5,900 - which is less than 2% of a project this size!  $392K and counting...  They even added a marked version of the unlimited-edition deck in red!

It may only be 2% of the project, but $5,900 would pay my house payment for 6 months.
For a smaller project, that is just at the break even point. $200-300 could be huge

It also appears that my final projection will be blown out the water. They snuck in a fourth deck, as you mentioned. At 394,569 now. 2days 20 hours to go. $500k does not look impossible.
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« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2013, 01:30:27 AM »
 

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It may only be 2% of the project, but $5,900 would pay my house payment for 6 months.
For a smaller project, that is just at the break even point. $200-300 could be huge

It also appears that my final projection will be blown out the water. They snuck in a fourth deck, as you mentioned. At 394,569 now. 2days 20 hours to go. $500k does not look impossible.

Yeah, but "less than two percent" of a project with a goal of $10,000 is LESS THAN $200.  It's a nice bump, to be sure, but it's a one-time bump, never to be repeated since you're limited on the number of faces that can go into any deck.  And remember, this was a deck based on a popular novel - most decks don't have that sort of cachet right off the starting blocks.

Fourth deck?  I counted three - am I missing something?  Limited, unlimited and marked unlimited.
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« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2013, 01:55:41 AM »
 

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Fourth deck?  I counted three - am I missing something?  Limited, unlimited and marked unlimited.

They are doing a reprint of the White Rabbit deck w/new back.
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Fourth deck?  I counted three - am I missing something?  Limited, unlimited and marked unlimited.

They are doing a reprint of the White Rabbit deck w/new back.

Oh, THAT one...
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« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2013, 06:33:16 PM »
 

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Half a million and counting with 1 day left. 

Insane.  :o

 

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Now that is a good $500,000 stretch goal.  Earlier, I think you were sloppy with the stretch goals as your backers blew past them.  Not even a speed bump...  Frig Magnets?  Really?  ;)

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 I don't know how Albino Dragon, the author, and whoever else was involved agreed to split the proceeds, but I imagine the party has already started :)
 

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« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2013, 08:40:25 AM »
 

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I don't know how Albino Dragon, the author, and whoever else was involved agreed to split the proceeds, but I imagine the party has already started :)

You'd probably be having a party as well, if your company just got a half-million dollars of capital dropped in its lap!
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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2013, 02:23:02 PM »
 

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I don't know how Albino Dragon, the author, and whoever else was involved agreed to split the proceeds, but I imagine the party has already started :)

You'd probably be having a party as well, if your company just got a half-million dollars of capital dropped in its lap!

Casual guess at a net profit?  $100K?  ($500+K less cost of goods, less no-pays, less fees, less tax, less shipping, less payments to celebrity endorsements, less labor (the artist should pay himself a salary and not just a share of the profits)...
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