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« on: August 01, 2013, 05:15:53 PM »
 

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LINK: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/341867453/four-jokers-transformation-playing-card-deck-bicyc?ref=search

THE CARDS
The deck is a celebration of Jokers, made by Jokers for Jokers, Joksters and people who just love art.





The concept began with an admiration of jokers in classic, modern and unusual decks.  We wanted to depict four common themes, each one representing a suit.  Spades represents the dark, sinister and sometimes evil Jokers.  Clubs illuminates the risque, burlesque and pin-up Jokers.  Hearts are for the romantic and comical fare who see jesters as fun frolicy folk.  And finally diamonds, a vision of the classic and traditional jokers doing their joker things.

THE JOKERS



THE BACK

A lovely harlequin pattern on the card back represents the playful and whimsical joker, while jesting at a familiar design card back of a more famous card brand

« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 12:44:31 PM by Don Boyer »
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Re: Four Jokers Transformation Playing Card Deck - Bicycle - (KS)
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2013, 12:09:35 PM »
 

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Thanks for no negative feedback on this deck.  Yes, I designed them but I'm working on other projects to the company is handling this project, specifically Bryan Cashdollar who is a finance and project guy (but not an artist or designer).  I like the idea of designing decks more and more but I don't like the stress of running projects and having to constantly communicate.  Hence the reason I'm only taking care of my own independant projects and designing for other people and of course the company.

FYI - Here is the design for the Ace of Spades.  Sorry I'm so late in posting I've been at a conference all week.
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2013, 10:06:31 AM »
 

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I spoke to Bryan before he left on vacation and we agreed that since this project wasn't getting any traction that it may be a good idea for him to cancel it and relaunch it as a non-USPCC deck.  This morning he cancelled and released a new splash page for the relaunch of his project.  It's exciting to me as I designed a number of back designs that can be used and that he can use the marking system on the decks if buyers want them.  It won't be USPCC but I think in the end it'll give much more flexibility with what he's offering.
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I spoke to Bryan before he left on vacation and we agreed that since this project wasn't getting any traction that it may be a good idea for him to cancel it and relaunch it as a non-USPCC deck.  This morning he cancelled and released a new splash page for the relaunch of his project.  It's exciting to me as I designed a number of back designs that can be used and that he can use the marking system on the decks if buyers want them.  It won't be USPCC but I think in the end it'll give much more flexibility with what he's offering.

Good luck.  It can be a tougher sell to this community to not use USPC, but I know others out there would enjoy the design.

BTW: is that the marking system I helped you with, or did you make something new?  :))
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Re: Four Jokers Transformation Playing Card Deck - Bicycle - (KS)
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2013, 07:56:56 AM »
 

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I spoke to Bryan before he left on vacation and we agreed that since this project wasn't getting any traction that it may be a good idea for him to cancel it and relaunch it as a non-USPCC deck.  This morning he cancelled and released a new splash page for the relaunch of his project.  It's exciting to me as I designed a number of back designs that can be used and that he can use the marking system on the decks if buyers want them.  It won't be USPCC but I think in the end it'll give much more flexibility with what he's offering.

Good luck.  It can be a tougher sell to this community to not use USPC, but I know others out there would enjoy the design.

BTW: is that the marking system I helped you with, or did you make something new?  :))

Actually we are using a few different techniques, most of which are ones that you suggested.  Each back style lends itself to a different kind of marking system.  The image is the one I chose for the harlequin back.
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I spoke to Bryan before he left on vacation and we agreed that since this project wasn't getting any traction that it may be a good idea for him to cancel it and relaunch it as a non-USPCC deck.  This morning he cancelled and released a new splash page for the relaunch of his project.  It's exciting to me as I designed a number of back designs that can be used and that he can use the marking system on the decks if buyers want them.  It won't be USPCC but I think in the end it'll give much more flexibility with what he's offering.

Good luck.  It can be a tougher sell to this community to not use USPC, but I know others out there would enjoy the design.

BTW: is that the marking system I helped you with, or did you make something new?  :))

Actually we are using a few different techniques, most of which are ones that you suggested.  Each back style lends itself to a different kind of marking system.  The image is the one I chose for the harlequin back.

If you're going to base your system on binary, which it appears you have, you should add one to all the binary numbers for the card values so the binary and decimal numbers match.  In your system as shown right now, Ace is zero in binary (0000), Two is one (0001), Three is two (0010), etc. up to King being twelve (1100).  It's a little confusing to someone familiar with binary marking systems, forcing an extra step in converting binary to card value.  Ideally, a marking system should have as few steps as possible to decode the suit/value, because you may not get more than a quick glimpse at the markings.  Check out the topic on the Legends No. 852 decks - it also uses binary for values and suits.
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[If you're going to base your system on binary, which it appears you have, you should add one to all the binary numbers for the card values so the binary and decimal numbers match.  In your system as shown right now, Ace is zero in binary (0000), Two is one (0001), Three is two (0010), etc. up to King being twelve (1100).  It's a little confusing to someone familiar with binary marking systems, forcing an extra step in converting binary to card value.  Ideally, a marking system should have as few steps as possible to decode the suit/value, because you may not get more than a quick glimpse at the markings.  Check out the topic on the Legends No. 852 decks - it also uses binary for values and suits.

So if I follow the pattern you suggest starting the Ace at Binary 1 which is not 0001, it's just 1, but for the sake of four digit positioning we will count the 0's. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2013, 11:59:37 PM »
 

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[If you're going to base your system on binary, which it appears you have, you should add one to all the binary numbers for the card values so the binary and decimal numbers match.  In your system as shown right now, Ace is zero in binary (0000), Two is one (0001), Three is two (0010), etc. up to King being twelve (1100).  It's a little confusing to someone familiar with binary marking systems, forcing an extra step in converting binary to card value.  Ideally, a marking system should have as few steps as possible to decode the suit/value, because you may not get more than a quick glimpse at the markings.  Check out the topic on the Legends No. 852 decks - it also uses binary for values and suits.

So if I follow the pattern you suggest starting the Ace at Binary 1 which is not 0001, it's just 1, but for the sake of four digit positioning we will count the 0's.

Yes, but you made a mistake on your chart.  Here's how it reads, with the binary converted to decimal values:

A=1
2=2
3=4
4=5
5=6
6=7
7=8
8=9
9=10
10=11
J=12
Q=13
K=14

Missed it by thatmuch!
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