Exquisite Playing Cards from CARC

[Nurul]

A new deck from CARC? I believe so.. I'm liking that tuck box. The second time I've seen it designed in that way (the first being on the black book of cards)

Photo taken from CARC Facebook page.

Anyone know much more about these?

[Anthony]

Interesting, I have to agree with you Nurul, I like the tuck box, would love to see the front design of it. Also, I didn't realize that the Black Book of Cards had a similar box design.

[Nurul]

They don't, that's my mistake, sorry.
They had the bicycle logo, horizontally, not the actual tuck case, my bad.

[Anthony]

They don't, that's my mistake, sorry.
They had the bicycle logo, horizontally, not the actual tuck case, my bad.

Gotcha, I remember the horizontal logo, but couldn't find anything on the tuck box layout, lol

No worries

[MrMollusk]

Now THAT is a truly cool deck.

Love that back.

[Don Boyer]

I'd wager that they're using the same printer as their previous project, the Global Titans.  Love that box, and the Ace of Spades is very old-school cool.

[BiggerDee]

Has The USPCC ever put out a deck with a tuck with a horizontal (or otherwise unconventional) opening like that?
I think that I remember that someone else, or a different plant, does their tucks, or am I just dreaming?

[jmrock]

Cadets... USPCC... Russell Morgan Printing Company - Late 1800s...

[JacksonRobinson]

I had some time to chat with Bill Kalush while at the 52 Plus Joker Convention, the tuck case is awesome, got to check it out in person. It has an incredible feel and texture to it. He also mentioned that he used the same printers that produced the Legends deck.

[BiggerDee]

Jm, thanks! Good info, very interesting that they have done it, but it's been a year or two since the last horizontal tuck was put out by them!

[ruicorreia]

It looks great, indeed. The tuck box seems like an adapted Pack Jacket they released 3 months ago, wich can be a good idea. But the my fear, like Don pointed out, is that the cards are just like the Global Titans, wich is not a good thing. Let's wait and see.

[Nurul]

I had some time to chat with Bill Kalush while at the 52 Plus Joker Convention, the tuck case is awesome, got to check it out in person. It has an incredible feel and texture to it. He also mentioned that he used the same printers that produced the Legends deck.

Ah the secret printing company from Taiwan I wonder if the deck will have any significant/secret features like the legends deck had

[Don Boyer]

It looks great, indeed. The tuck box seems like an adapted Pack Jacket they released 3 months ago, wich can be a good idea. But the my fear, like Don pointed out, is that the cards are just like the Global Titans, wich is not a good thing. Let's wait and see.

If he's using the same printer as the Legends, then no - it's NOT the same printer that did the Global Titans.  The GBs were made in Shanghai, the Legends were made in Taiwan.  I was simply guessing which printer based on the box printing being so similar.  Now that I know it's the Legends printer, it's something that should be on a lot of people's want lists.

Ah the secret printing company from Taiwan I wonder if the deck will have any significant/secret features like the legends deck had

Bill's own projects to date have all been "straight" decks, gimmick-free.  Legends was a Lawrence Sullivan deck.  It's not impossible that he'd gaff it up, but it's not likely based on his track record.

[Nurul]

I know the legends deck was primarily Lawrence Sullivan, but didn't Kalush (as well as blaine) have input on the deck?

I wonder if he's working with anyone else regarding the exquisite deck

[Don Boyer]

I know the legends deck was primarily Lawrence Sullivan, but didn't Kalush (as well as blaine) have input on the deck?

I wonder if he's working with anyone else regarding the exquisite deck

Input, sure.  But that doesn't make it Bill's project.  Lawrence used the same artist as David (and Whispering Imps), Mark Stutzman.  Doesn't make it David's project, either. 

I'm thinking he's not "working with anyone else", though I'm sure he's got friends, employees, etc. giving him input here and there.  Expert Playing Card Company is his baby, 100%.

[10ofclubs]

jmrock, I envy everything about you. That deck is absolutely amazing.

I honestly really hated the feel of the Legends decks. I bought a whole brick when CARC had them on sale a couple weeks ago and now I don't know what I'm gonna do with them all.

[JacksonRobinson]

This deck is a remake of an old vintage deck that he bought from Tom and Judy Dawson. You may know Tom Dawson, he is the author The Playing Card Encyclopedia.

[Don Boyer]

This deck is a remake of an old vintage deck that he bought from Tom and Judy Dawson. You may know Tom Dawson, he is the author The Playing Card Encyclopedia.

I know them - actually met them at their home in Toronto.  Very nice people, the both of them.  Bill recently purchased some items from Tom, so I'm guessing this was among them.  Most of the decks he's made are remakes of classics in some way or another.

Any deck initially created prior to 1923 in the US would be in the public domain today in regards to copyright, leaving only trademark law to protect it - and a trademark left out of the public eye for too long a time doesn't have much of a leg to stand on, especially when it's a long-defunct brand name.  This leave Bill or anyone else free to republish the oldest USPC designs, should they choose to do so.  The only reason he didn't name his previous deck simply "Titans" was that another deck recently came out using the same name.

Now as far as the whole De'vo vs. CARC thing with this deck's name, well - I have no idea how a legal challenge would shake out, and I'm betting neither company wants to mess with it.  De'vo could try to argue that it's his "Signature Series Exquisite" deck, and maybe that would work, I don't know.  (That is what he's calling it, right?  The Signature Series?)

[kdklown]

Available Turkey day...

[CBJ]

In at least 2 colors...






CBJ

[Don Boyer]

I'm just curious about what "Master Finish" is.  I know the Global Titans weren't the most warmly received deck, though personally I didn't think they were bad - not great, but definitely not bad.  I can't tell for certain but I think these may be from the same factory.

[John B.]

I really like how they did the box.

[Don Boyer]

I'm just curious about what "Master Finish" is.  I know the Global Titans weren't the most warmly received deck, though personally I didn't think they were bad - not great, but definitely not bad.  I can't tell for certain but I think these may be from the same factory.

I am WRONG.  These aren't from the Shanghai factory.  I can't give out details yet, but these will be FAR SUPERIOR to the Global Titans.  If they are what I believe they are, you will be stunned.

That, and many other exciting things, will be going on at conjuringarts.org on Thursday - NOT Friday!  So don't go slipping into your turkey coma until you've checked it out.

[Paul.Middleton]

I'm just curious about what "Master Finish" is.  I know the Global Titans weren't the most warmly received deck, though personally I didn't think they were bad - not great, but definitely not bad.  I can't tell for certain but I think these may be from the same factory.

I am WRONG.  These aren't from the Shanghai factory.  I can't give out details yet, but these will be FAR SUPERIOR to the Global Titans.  If they are what I believe they are, you will be stunned.

That, and many other exciting things, will be going on at conjuringarts.org on Thursday - NOT Friday!  So don't go slipping into your turkey coma until you've checked it out.

Looking forward to both !!

[chach]

Really looking forward to these cards, unfortunately my wallet doesn't share my sentiments.  Especially with everything else going on that Thurs / Fri.