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Bicycle Elements (4 deck set) - Coming soon
« on: December 02, 2013, 10:48:32 AM »
 

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A new 4 deck set is on the way from Yoan Tanuji (Bicycle Fake&Genius/Fast&Genius) & Guillaume Bienne

Due to restrictions on location for KS projects, this will be launched on
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Re: Bicycle Elements (4 deck set) - Coming soon
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2013, 02:32:00 PM »
 

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4 decks with the same back design? Granted, it's better than coming out with a new color every few months, but unless the decks have some other significant differences they just seem like they're pulling a Jackson Robinson without the creativity.

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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2013, 02:39:43 PM »
 

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Hey!!

I'll try to get pics of the courts/cards

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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2013, 04:41:28 PM »
 

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Interesting. I love the detail, but I'd have to see more to make a real judgement on it.

Looks cool so far, though!
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2013, 09:29:42 PM »
 

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Overall design is quite nice. However the intricacy of the back design may not translate well in actual print..
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2013, 10:22:28 PM »
 

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I like it... But I don't like this whole trend of creators releasing multiple decks at once through kickstarter; it's bad enough when things like Federal 52 or Sherlock come out - but at least with them, you get something different with each deck and so it's potentially worth it, with these it's either pledge for all at around $40 plus $20 shipping or its not pledge at all. Who wants one or two colours of a 4 colour set? And you know the aftermarket is just going to be filled with 4 deck sets anyway!
 

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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2013, 10:39:39 PM »
 

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I like it... But I don't like this whole trend of creators releasing multiple decks at once through kickstarter; it's bad enough when things like Federal 52 or Sherlock come out - but at least with them, you get something different with each deck and so it's potentially worth it, with these it's either pledge for all at around $40 plus $20 shipping or its not pledge at all. Who wants one or two colours of a 4 colour set? And you know the aftermarket is just going to be filled with 4 deck sets anyway!

I completely disagree. Especially to "Who wants one or two colours of a 4 colour set?". If you like a single particular deck, buy it. If you like all 4, buy 4. No one is forcing anyone to purchase the whole set. We as collectors (and humans in general) have a tendency to want everything in a set and everything that's 'limited'; so we can feel complete and exclusive. Understand that, know what you like and don't like, be decisive and purchase what you genuinely desire. Don't be a sucker in the infinite market of goods and buy everything that's thrown at you.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2013, 12:52:36 AM »
 

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2013 Custom Branded Quote

A preliminary quote for 2,500 decks: $2.72 per deck, per design.  Final quote will depend on artwork
                                     5,000 decks: $2.54 per deck, per design. 
                    10,000 decks: $2.10 per deck, per design.
                              15,000 decks: $1.71 per deck, per design.   
                      
This preliminary quote includes Bicycle grade paper and custom tuck case.  Branded deck designs will need to be approved by our Legal team.  This takes about 7-10 business days. 

The custom tuck case is our standard tuck case that you see with our Bicycle decks and the cards are Poker size and you can choose Embossed or Smooth finish.

Other options are seals and cello wrap(highly recommended) that are included with the price if you choose them.  56 cards come standard to a deck (52 playing cards, 2 jokers and 2 ad cards).

The following will be the art charges for a single design custom back, custom card faces and custom tuck (all art has to be approved by our Legal dept for Branded decks):

Custom Tuck Case: $160.00
Custom Card Backs: $110.00
Custom Card Faces: $600.00
Ad cards: $60.00 per card
Additional art services if needed: $75.00 per hour
Uncut sheets: $5.00 per sheet, these ship with your order
*Please note we cannot use any files from the program Inkscape.
Typical lead time is currently 4-6 weeks after approved artwork.  Shipping estimates will vary on a case by case basis.
Orders are subject to 10% over / under run.  10% less than ordered quantity will be considered order fulfillment and 10% over will be included in your order at quoted deck price per deck.
Shipping dates can be estimated but never guaranteed.  Shipping charges are included in the deck price.   



This is a generic "Bicycle Branded" quote so don't freak out.  I looks like he has 4 different decks.

Decks = $27,200
Tuck case = $640
Card Backs = $440
Card Faces = $2400   ($11.11 per card)
Ad Cards = $480         ($60 per card)  <---- Is this a money maker or what? Never understood why they charge so much?

So That's $31,160 and if they don't have a resale certificate add .06 sales tax for $33,030 out the door or roughly $3.30 per deck.

I'm sure if USPCC ships these decks overseas it's going to be extra and maybe there are customs fee?  Then there is the monster of shipping costs and packaging supplies.  I'm sure they are going to have a 4 deck special deal as the meat and potatoes reward.  Lets say they get 1000 backers who buy the 4 pack deal.  $45,000 or 33,000 euros should be the roughly the goal as a minimum.  I did a quick review of KisskissBankbank and I didn't see any successful ones above 15,000 euros.   





 

Re: Bicycle Elements (4 deck set) - Coming soon
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2013, 03:33:11 AM »
 

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Well, when it launches, it will have the proverbial playing field all to itself, so to speak...

Now if only more of the projects there were in English...
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2013, 12:58:52 PM »
 

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Yeah I did the same search yesterday   Not much there....I did sign up for an account and checked out how things work for payment...It looks like they charge your credit card immediately when you pledge and then give you a refund if the project does not fund...Not sure I like that method
 

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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2013, 08:28:17 PM »
 

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Yeah I did the same search yesterday   Not much there....I did sign up for an account and checked out how things work for payment...It looks like they charge your credit card immediately when you pledge and then give you a refund if the project does not fund...Not sure I like that method

I know for a FACT that I don't like that method.  It's a clever way to skim cash from backers by keeping the float on those charge amounts.  They charge you, the money goes to an interest-bearing account, they keep the interest while you pay any interest you may have on your card.  If it succeeds, they pay the creator; if it doesn't, they refund you - but naturally they keep that interest.  Regardless of the project's success or failure, they make money on it.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2013, 07:59:00 PM »
 

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A trailer for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3L2ClYfl14&feature=youtu.be


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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2013, 11:23:33 PM »
 

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A trailer for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3L2ClYfl14&feature=youtu.be


Where's the YouTube embed button?

To my knowledge, the only thing one can embed into a post here is a still image or animated GIF.  Otherwise, it's just "post the link".
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2013, 12:36:14 AM »
 

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Pretty sweet courts.









As awesome as they are, I don't think they quite fit the style of the back. The courts seem a bit more comic-like than the super intricate and archaic back design.
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