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Colour Blind Playing Cards now live on Kickstarter
« on: December 07, 2013, 07:23:18 PM »
 

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Re: Colour Blind Playing Cards now live on Kickstarter
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2013, 07:33:27 PM »
 

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Oh I can't tell if I like it or not!
 

Re: Colour Blind Playing Cards now live on Kickstarter
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2013, 08:05:08 PM »
 

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I like the backs but hate the fronts.
Do you guys even read this? Like I could have the meaning of life here and I doubt you would know it.
 

Re: Colour Blind Playing Cards now live on Kickstarter
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2013, 10:08:08 PM »
 

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Wow, I actually love this... I'm a huge fan of minimalism, and this is about as minimalistic as it gets. I love the faces, the with the back design is cool but the design itself looks a bit strange. I wouldn't have made it one way. I'm still impressed tho, very unique deck!
 

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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2013, 10:39:53 PM »
 

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I like the backs but hate the fronts.

I agree. I do like the white backs, not bad for a minimalist deck. But those faces are too abstract for my liking
 

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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2013, 11:10:32 PM »
 

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I don't get it, what's the courts and AoS have anything to do with the colourblind theme? :-\
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2013, 12:36:58 AM »
 

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Love the fan- Hate the courts
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Re: Colour Blind Playing Cards now live on Kickstarter
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2013, 04:28:50 AM »
 

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I don't get it, what's the courts and AoS have anything to do with the colourblind theme? :-\

He mentioned that he is inspired by Russian propaganda posters from the Cold War era.  Personally, I wouldn't call this deck faithful to that inspiration.

I also don't like that we're not seeing any red cards.  Assuming he is making them red and not keeping the whole deck colorblind...

Even the name "colorblind" isn't in keeping with the imagery on the cards.  Think about it - he's depicting opposite sides of the Cold War, but is he depicting them as being the same color?  When do any opposing armies, teams, etc. use exactly the same colors?

Nope, I'm not sold on this deck at all.
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Re: Colour Blind Playing Cards now live on Kickstarter
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2013, 06:15:38 AM »
 

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No mention of printer anywhere. Project creator consists of three names, no facebook connected.

Red flags ahoy!
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Re: Colour Blind Playing Cards now live on Kickstarter
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2013, 08:09:00 AM »
 

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Quite spectacular that back. If I could fan a deck properly I'd want one!
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Re: Colour Blind Playing Cards now live on Kickstarter
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2013, 08:19:24 AM »
 

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Quite spectacular that back. If I could fan a deck properly I'd want one!
Interesting. I myself think it's quite boring since you can get the same fans by using any regular white or black deck by simply making reverse fans, or right hand fans. This is sometimes used by magicians to create blank fans (top card needs to be concealable like the AoD or a blank gaff) and snap their fingers before revealing all the pips being "back" in a regular fan.

Granted, you won't get the black/white edge on the fan that these have, but for me colors and patterns trump black and white any day.

I do recommend trying to learn fanning though, it makes you able to appreciate playing card design in a very unique way  :)
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2013, 10:49:42 AM »
 

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I also don't like that we're not seeing any red cards.  Assuming he is making them red and not keeping the whole deck colorblind...

There is one picture of a "red" card (see below for the image) ... it's the suicide king committing suicide.  But it's clear to me that the whole point of this deck is that the reds are *not* red.  The whole deck is white-and-black.  There is no red anywhere.

For me, that's a complete showstopper.  My bridge players have instructed me ... no more decks that we can't play with.

Personally, I *love* everything else about this deck.  So amazing ... so well-thought out ... and yet so frustrating, it is *killing* me not to pledge for this deck.  The two-sided fans are gorgeous.  I love the custom pips.  The themes are completely fun.  And I love, love, love the Literal Aces.  But apparently, true monochrome is the whole *point* to this deck. (Arrgh!) This is *so* easy to imagine as an amazing TWO deck set!  The backs of one deck are white-and-black (as is), and the other deck's back is white-and-red (yet ANOTHER amazing fan). And both decks have the same faces: with spades and clubs white-and-black and hearts and diamonds white-and-red.  This is one of the most inventive and well-thought-out minimalist decks I've seen ... but for me ... it's a very VERY sad pass.

P.S. I *love* the suicide king:

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Re: Colour Blind Playing Cards now live on Kickstarter
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2013, 12:20:18 PM »
 

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To me, I put this into what I think of as a "Design" category of deck.

There have always been examples of these decks appearing, but recently I get the impression there are quite a few more. The reasons are not hard to imagine. A few huge KS projects and a zillion people who think "I could do that". And, from an isolated design perspective, they can.

It often IS good design. However, it's not always good playing card design. There's a crucial difference.

There are tons of examples of decks which are neither, a gratifying number which are both, but there are no small number of examples which are one but not the other.

Anyway, to me, this one falls into that "well, nice enough, but not my cup of tea" category.
 

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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2013, 01:25:25 PM »
 

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The fan is kind if cool, but if you get the cards inverted, it would absolutely ruin it.
 

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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2013, 02:28:18 PM »
 

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To me, I put this into what I think of as a "Design" category of deck.

There have always been examples of these decks appearing, but recently I get the impression there are quite a few more. The reasons are not hard to imagine. A few huge KS projects and a zillion people who think "I could do that". And, from an isolated design perspective, they can.

It often IS good design. However, it's not always good playing card design. There's a crucial difference.

There are tons of examples of decks which are neither, a gratifying number which are both, but there are no small number of examples which are one but not the other.

Anyway, to me, this one falls into that "well, nice enough, but not my cup of tea" category.

I agree with this a lot, particularly the highlighted part. It is what separates a good designer from a good playing card designer. This deck falls into a grey area where traditional playing card design is sacrificed for whatever clever idea the designer has, and the more/bigger elements that are missing the more clever the idea has to be to make up for it.
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Re: Colour Blind Playing Cards now live on Kickstarter
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2013, 02:46:56 PM »
 

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Hi everybody,

I'm the creator of this deck, and I totally understand what a lot of you are saying. This deck isn't for everybody. While I do want the niche community of cardists and card enthusiasts in general to accept the deck, I will acknowledge that they are more design than function. Whether or not they work as playing cards is yet to be seen. I believe that they will, but I can see how some would not, such as the bridge player above. To those who loved the design: you are awesome. To those who didn't: hey, whatever, I guess it's not your thing. But if any of you have good constructive criticism for me, I would really appreciate it. Honestly, the fact that people are taking the time to say how much they DON'T like the deck is a little flattering.

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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2013, 08:17:38 PM »
 

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Changing the hearts and diamonds to outlines with white centers would make them usable, while staying black and white.

Colorblind people don't see in black and white btw.
 

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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2013, 10:55:33 PM »
 

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Yeah, I know that colourblind people don't see in black and white. My dad is red/green (he also helped me colour edit stuff, which is weird…). I think that the black outline idea is actually pretty solid. I will do a draft of them, and see how they look. If enough people think it's a good idea, I'll be sure to implement it. Thanks for the advice.
 

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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2013, 01:13:26 AM »
 

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Yeah, I know that colourblind people don't see in black and white. My dad is red/green (he also helped me colour edit stuff, which is weird…). I think that the black outline idea is actually pretty solid. I will do a draft of them, and see how they look. If enough people think it's a good idea, I'll be sure to implement it. Thanks for the advice.

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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2013, 11:03:27 AM »
 

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The dual fan ability is really cool, and a great feature. I actually like these.
 

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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2013, 11:46:28 AM »
 

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I like the fanning concept for the back design but the faces need more development.  I've seen a lot of minimalistic concepts with potential, fall flat due to a lack of time for the concept to develop to its fullest potential. 
 

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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2013, 01:09:50 PM »
 

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It often IS good design. However, it's not always good playing card design.

I agree here. If you're going to go with a deck that it sparse (as opposed to detailed illustrations), the theme should come through AND it should be playable. I enjoy thematic decks and illustrated ones, but my thematic decks are all very usable.

I am not a fan of the title either. When I saw the title of the deck, I was expecting to see a clever deck designed for color blind people, but the deck was Soviet WWII propaganda based. I think the deck needs a name that more clearly describes it's design aesthetic.
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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2013, 03:37:41 PM »
 

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The dual fan ability is really cool, and a great feature. I actually like these.

Except if any of the cards got inverted, it would ruin the fan. I stated this above. Yeah, the fans look neat but it would be a pain in the ass to keep your deck the same direction throughout a game or performance. Not worth it at all.
 

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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2013, 03:42:04 PM »
 

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I hate to say it, but this has to be one of the worst designs I've ever seen.  My eyes hurt after seeing the pics, maybe that's what they mean by the name, they'll make you blind after staring at them for long periods of time.   :mindf-ck:
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2013, 04:25:34 PM »
 

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The dual fan ability is really cool, and a great feature. I actually like these.

Except if any of the cards got inverted, it would ruin the fan. I stated this above. Yeah, the fans look neat but it would be a pain in the ass to keep your deck the same direction throughout a game or performance. Not worth it at all.

That's fair. Again, I did make these to be more designery than utility. However, I wouldn't really use anything other than a deck of bikes or tallies in a performance anyway.

And to chach, that's just mean, man. You've hurt me deeply  :(
If you have something constructive to say, though, I'd be happy to hear it. This is my first design, and it's definitely a learning experience.