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Re: The Discourse Deck
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2014, 01:17:48 AM »
 

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First time poster, joined a few days ago and will be making my appearance in the intro thread very soon. I've been lurking here for a couple of months and this community is extremely great. Between the amount of artists and knowledgeable collectors, I must say Im very impressed.

The only suggestion I may make about a deck like this is maybe trying to make one deck (possibly an annual thing) that is designed by one or two artists that are voted for or elected by the community. This way everybody has a voice and feels like they helped create the deck and the deck doesn't suffer from the "too many cooks" routine.

Also, just because someone else is designing the deck doesn't mean there aren't opportunities to fill other roles on the team. The project would need someone constantly running the Kickstarter page, and shipping is always a very stressful process if is just one person.

Im sure there's plenty of ways thay everyone can help is what I'm saying. And there's more than enough creativity and good taste in this community for this project to be a smashing success.

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Re: The Discourse Deck
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2014, 02:32:47 AM »
 

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At this point, all I can tell you guys is: "Stay tuned."


I saw something pretty interesting a little while back.

If I'm correct then "OMG-Stay tuned"

Um, I dunno what you saw...  but as I said, just stay tuned.

I suspect what you saw and what I'm thinking of aren't the same things.
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Re: The Discourse Deck
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2014, 10:09:14 AM »
 

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As an artist I would love to participate in something like this. I imagine it could maybe resemble something like http://playingarts.com/ where 54 different artists could each design a different card. Also as a collector I love these types of decks. The whole community coming together to make this happen would be awesome.
 

Re: The Discourse Deck
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2014, 10:40:36 AM »
 

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As an artist I would love to participate in something like this. I imagine it could maybe resemble something like http://playingarts.com/ where 54 different artists could each design a different card. Also as a collector I love these types of decks. The whole community coming together to make this happen would be awesome.

I hate those kinds of decks. They have no point IMO

I am looking forward to the discourse deck design contest thing that is going on and seeing the results though.
Do you guys even read this? Like I could have the meaning of life here and I doubt you would know it.
 

Re: The Discourse Deck
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2014, 10:57:19 AM »
 

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I am looking forward to the discourse deck design contest thing that is going on and seeing the results though.

To me, right now, that contest deck is FAR more interesting than a Discourse Deck!  It's a major opportunity.  I'm just waiting to see who's going to take up the challenge.
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Re: The Discourse Deck
« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2014, 12:06:52 AM »
 

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I am looking forward to the discourse deck design contest thing that is going on and seeing the results though.

To me, right now, that contest deck is FAR more interesting than a Discourse Deck!  It's a major opportunity.  I'm just waiting to see who's going to take up the challenge.



Agree, it is way more exciting. I just wish I could participate, as I have been working on something for a few months, but still has at least 2 months work left to do, so it is a very small time frame for anything epic, unless it is ready to go it might be a rushed design.
Can't wait to see how it goes and what sort of deck comes out of it though.
 

Re: The Discourse Deck
« Reply #56 on: April 21, 2014, 12:44:30 AM »
 

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I am looking forward to the discourse deck design contest thing that is going on and seeing the results though.

To me, right now, that contest deck is FAR more interesting than a Discourse Deck!  It's a major opportunity.  I'm just waiting to see who's going to take up the challenge.



Agree, it is way more exciting. I just wish I could participate, as I have been working on something for a few months, but still has at least 2 months work left to do, so it is a very small time frame for anything epic, unless it is ready to go it might be a rushed design.
Can't wait to see how it goes and what sort of deck comes out of it though.

You have lots of time, actually.  We're in the pre-entry phase now.  Entries start getting submitted in about a month, and there's a six-week period before entries are closed and the voting begins.  That's over two months to refine your design before posting it as an entry.

Just start a topic in the Design/Dev board with the tag (DDDC) at the beginning of the title!
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Re: The Discourse Deck
« Reply #57 on: July 30, 2014, 06:24:03 PM »
 

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Just throwing this idea out for consideration. What about a deck that has each card designed by a different artist.

Here is a successful deck that was created to promote designers and illustrators:
https://www.behance.net/gallery/Playing-Arts/11474649

A deck with many artists would promote not just Discourse/52 Plus Joker, but custom playing card design in general. It could be sold/promoted to not just card collectors, but people who like to collect in general, and people who like to collect art, etc.

Like in the example above, each artist would get one card to design as they see fit. The best cards, such as aces, jokers and face cards, would go to the most established designers. The opportunity to design a card (beside the obvious established designers) could be offered to anyone who has had a custom deck receive funding on Kickstarter. Next priority might be artists who had good designs that did not receive enough Kickstarter funding or artists who entered the Discourse Design Contest. If not enough designers are found this way, maybe artists who have posted interesting card designs on Behance.

Each artist would only need to spend the time to create one card (they could even use the art from one of their existing cards if they wanted), in return they would get free exposure/promotion/advertising. Every artist would have their website on their card or listed on the ad cards.

I think Jackson Robinson has earned the right to do the card backs if he wants, or there could be a design contest to vote on it.

The box design front should probably have a Custom Playing Card / Discourse /52 Plus Joker theme, with the back describing the theme and the contents.

I'm sure The Discourse/52 Plus Joker could find a good use for the proceeds.
 

Re: The Discourse Deck
« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2014, 09:48:52 PM »
 

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Just throwing this idea out for consideration. What about a deck that has each card designed by a different artist.

Here is a successful deck that was created to promote designers and illustrators:
https://www.behance.net/gallery/Playing-Arts/11474649

A deck with many artists would promote not just Discourse/52 Plus Joker, but custom playing card design in general. It could be sold/promoted to not just card collectors, but people who like to collect in general, and people who like to collect art, etc.

Like in the example above, each artist would get one card to design as they see fit. The best cards, such as aces, jokers and face cards, would go to the most established designers. The opportunity to design a card (beside the obvious established designers) could be offered to anyone who has had a custom deck receive funding on Kickstarter. Next priority might be artists who had good designs that did not receive enough Kickstarter funding or artists who entered the Discourse Design Contest. If not enough designers are found this way, maybe artists who have posted interesting card designs on Behance.

Each artist would only need to spend the time to create one card (they could even use the art from one of their existing cards if they wanted), in return they would get free exposure/promotion/advertising. Every artist would have their website on their card or listed on the ad cards.

I think Jackson Robinson has earned the right to do the card backs if he wants, or there could be a design contest to vote on it.

The box design front should probably have a Custom Playing Card / Discourse /52 Plus Joker theme, with the back describing the theme and the contents.

I'm sure The Discourse/52 Plus Joker could find a good use for the proceeds.

Allow me to provide you a few opinions and updates.

This deck was never completed because the creator didn't obtain the IP rights from their owner, Tom Dawson.  He altered and renamed the design for the contest.

A 54-artist decks with everyone doing a different card is about as much fun as 54 people jammed into my tiny kitchen trying to make me dinner.  They're usually inconsistent - nice art deck, but not the most popular with players, magicians, cardists and collectors.

Jackson not only "earned the right" to design the back, he's making the entire deck!  It will be a short-run limited release available only to members of 52 Plus Joker attending this year's convention in October - there's an ad for it on the home page.
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