The second edition of the Lumberjacks

[Vadim Smolenskiy]

So here's the other version of the King of Hearts (left) and the previous King for reference (right). Let me know what you guys think!

[Fess]

The arms look a little wonky but hahaha, I love it. I so didn't see that coming. It's fantastic. 

[Will W.]

I prefer the original.  The torso is kinda small and the arms just dont look right to me.  JMO

[Don Boyer]

The original was fine.  This new one looks like he's cutting his hands off at the wrists.

[sprouts1115]

Notice the axe cuts deep into the wrist.  I don't think that was an accident...

[Vadim Smolenskiy]

The original was fine.  This new one looks like he's cutting his hands off at the wrists.

It does look that way. I could edit it to show that he's slicing, not chopping. I'll post a version up.

[Don Boyer]

The original was fine.  This new one looks like he's cutting his hands off at the wrists.

It does look that way. I could edit it to show that he's slicing, not chopping. I'll post a version up.

I suggest the torso from the second with the hands/arms/axe from the first.  It's a better torso but the rest is off.

[Vadim Smolenskiy]

Worked on the Queen of Hearts today. Here she is:



C&C welcomed!

[Fess]

Worked on the Queen of Hearts today. Here she is:
C&C welcomed!

She's cute and I like her but she looks like she's making a pecan roll or something in that pose. Or the log doesn't quite sell it being at that angle. Something is a bit off with the pose/log situation to me. Can't quite put my finger on it, maybe it's the shoulders, idk.

lol, sorry for the least helpful post ever.

[Don Boyer]

What if, instead of that log, there was a counter-top there and she was presenting a plate of flapjacks stacked high?  Or perhaps eggs, bacon sausage and toast?

The lumberjacks (and lumberkings!) have a great reason for being posed with logs, wood, axes, saws, etc., but not so much for the women on the queens, unless you plan to make at least one woman into a lumberqueen.  A camp cook for at least one of them would work - can you think of other useful jobs you can present them with?  The queen you have presented here could just as easily have walked out of a New York nightclub or a Las Vegas casino as she could the Great White North in summer.

Did you know that today about a third of all forestry jobs are held by women?
http://modernfarmer.com/2014/08/life-lady-lumberjack/

[Vadim Smolenskiy]

I've definitely considered a lot of options as far as what the women would be doing. Upon some quick google research, it seems that they literally carried wood! If you can think of something else that she can hold other than wood, an ax or saw, I'd love to hear it!

My current lumberjack queens:
Queen of Hearts - Carrying wood
Queen of Spades - Tree hugger (anti-tree removal / nature activist) I may change this one to the Queen of Hearts
Queen of Clubs - Carrying wood (implied)
Queen of Diamonds - Logger (the only queen that will be holding an ax)

Here are some old school examples of women lumberjacks:
1. http://dirtinyourskirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Women-lumberjacks-carrying-logs.jpg
2. http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/480x270/legacy/clip/p00yyrd9.jpg?nodefault=true
3. http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9ppd4o2L1qzjiplo1_500.jpg

Some of them are pretty good looking too!

[Fess]

Those are very cool ideas. I would love to see a suit being tree huggers. Absolutely brilliant.

[Don Boyer]

I've definitely considered a lot of options as far as what the women would be doing. Upon some quick google research, it seems that they literally carried wood! If you can think of something else that she can hold other than wood, an ax or saw, I'd love to hear it!

My current lumberjack queens:
Queen of Hearts - Carrying wood
Queen of Spades - Tree hugger (anti-tree removal / nature activist) I may change make this one the Queen of Hearts
Queen of Clubs - Carrying wood (implied)
Queen of Diamonds - Logger (the only queen that will be holding an ax)

Here are some old school examples of women lumberjacks:
1. http://dirtinyourskirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Women-lumberjacks-carrying-logs.jpg
2. http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/480x270/legacy/clip/p00yyrd9.jpg?nodefault=true
3. http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9ppd4o2L1qzjiplo1_500.jpg

Some of them are pretty good looking too!

Almost too good looking - I suspect these photos might have been taken around World War II, when a lot of men were drafted or volunteered to fight, leaving women to at least temporarily fill their roles in the workplace.  In this case, they're the lumberjack equivalent to Rosie the Riveter.  The hairstyles would seem to indicate this as well.  Earlier, and they would all be dressed more modestly (many are wearing shorts, something most lumberjacks wouldn't do if they liked their legs at all) - later, and the hairstyles would be closer to modern.  The second picture is practically posed to look more attractive for a recruiting poster or newspaper article to get women working in war-essential businesses - lumber supplies were used in LARGE supply throughout the war.

I like the tree-hugger and agree it would make a better Queen of Hearts - they "love" nature after all, so a heart would be a better suit for them.

I still think you could make one as a camp cook - and perhaps one of the Kings or Jacks as well, since not all lumberjack camp workers swung axes and pulled on saws.  Someone had to make their legendary lumberjack breakfasts, right?  The "divider" between halves could be a cast-iron wood-burning stove.

[Vadim Smolenskiy]

I still think you could make one as a camp cook - and perhaps one of the Kings or Jacks as well, since not all lumberjack camp workers swung axes and pulled on saws.  Someone had to make their legendary lumberjack breakfasts, right?  The "divider" between halves could be a cast-iron wood-burning stove.

I'll put something together (exploring leads to good things).

I reworked the King of Hearts again! I'm torn between the "slicing" and the latest one. Here are all 4 versions for comparison:


What do you guys think?

[Fess]

I think tree hugger him. When activist types are up against the wall they're probably often given to bouts of serious anger and depression. It gives him a reason to suicide in a story kind of way. May be shnazzy. Of the four shown though, I like the new modified version best.

[Don Boyer]

The new version - newest version - is my current favorite.

[sprouts1115]

Why not the QoS holds the axe.  In the traditional courts the QoS is the only queen to hold the specter.  Just a thought....

[Don Boyer]

Why not the QoS holds the axe.  In the traditional courts the QoS is the only queen to hold the specter.  Just a thought....

1) It's a scepter, not a specter.

2) It's not a traditional design - he can do what he pleases.

[Vadim Smolenskiy]

Okay, worked on the new Queen of Hearts (tree hugger)!

There's probably some tweaks that she needs here and there but I wanted to post up progress.

[Don Boyer]

Okay, worked on the new Queen of Hearts (tree hugger)!

There's probably some tweaks that she needs here and there but I wanted to post up progress.

I like this, but consider this: use the hair as the "divider" between top and bottom, without obscuring the arm under it.  And while it might be counter to the present color scheme - make her t-shirt green instead of red!  Maybe even put an eco symbol of some kind on the shoulder.  Then she'll really look like a tree hugger in the "we've seen this in the newspaper" kind of way.

[Vadim Smolenskiy]

I like this, but consider this: use the hair as the "divider" between top and bottom, without obscuring the arm under it.  And while it might be counter to the present color scheme - make her t-shirt green instead of red!  Maybe even put an eco symbol of some kind on the shoulder.  Then she'll really look like a tree hugger in the "we've seen this in the newspaper" kind of way.

Hmm, I'll do some research and make some tweaks. The color may be too much and a new elements that other card won't have. I'll give it a shot. Maybe have a recycle symbol somewhere or an arm band. I'll post up updates.

[Vadim Smolenskiy]

Plot twist! I reworked the QoH. Gave her a neck and some cleavage! Definitely think those helped her out.

@Don, I tried making her shirt green, but it just didn't seem right. No other card would have this color so I scrapped the idea. I think being the Queen of Hearts and the portrayal of hugging the tree is enough without having to add extra elements.



Lend me your thoughts.

[Don Boyer]

Plot twist! I reworked the QoH. Gave her a neck and some cleavage! Definitely think those helped her out.

@Don, I tried making her shirt green, but it just didn't seem right. No other card would have this color so I scrapped the idea. I think being the Queen of Hearts and the portrayal of hugging the tree is enough without having to add extra elements.



Lend me your thoughts.

Looks good - but give her a belly, please!  A trim, svelte belly, sure, but without anything it looks creepy.

[Vadim Smolenskiy]

Looks good - but give her a belly, please!  A trim, svelte belly, sure, but without anything it looks creepy.

Haha, floating torso! I had some parts of a belly but it made it look weird. I'll post it up along with the Jack of Diamonds I'm working on!

[Don Boyer]

Looks good - but give her a belly, please!  A trim, svelte belly, sure, but without anything it looks creepy.

Haha, floating torso! I had some parts of a belly but it made it look weird. I'll post it up along with the Jack of Diamonds I'm working on!

A field of red - the "continuation" of her shirt - is all that's needed.