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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2014, 03:04:08 AM »
 

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In that case, sorry about that bro -- I thought you were referring to the V1 Dealers being for magicians, despite them clearly being for gamblers.

I guess the only intelligent use (apart from practising with them) for Dealers would be some sort of gambling demonstration. As you've correctly stated, using the Dealers (or for that matter, any deck with such obvious markings) in a real game is suicidal.

My personal opinion is that Ellusionist have done the Madison cards to death.

I agree on that point.

I can say one positive thing about the Dealers - they're extremely difficult to detect as marked when using the riffle test.  The changes are tiny from card to card, therefore more difficult to spot.

My favorite marked deck right now would be the Bicycle Mandolin Back GT Speedreaders.  They're as easy to read as a pack of the Ultimate Marked Deck, but the markings are in the wrong corners for gamblers, the right corners for a right-to-left spread, leaving the marks upside down to the spectator.  They can be detected in a riffle test, but since they're in the wrong corner, it's possible the markings will be missed.
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2014, 07:42:38 PM »
 

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I might pick up a black deck. I think the design would work well in black.

However, the design really does look like it should be borderless. I'm getting kind of tired of Daniel Madison's cards. It was new and creative at first, but it got tired REAL fast. I really hope his next one breaks away from his logo.
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2014, 03:40:02 PM »
 

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@Ellusionist: When @TomasHlavaty saw #Dealers and #Rounders, he was inspired to upgrade the court cards. http://t.co/GMu1QGODP6

I saw this yesterday when it first was tweeted. The upgrade looks really nice! I'm hoping we will see a full version on the v2 Dealers. It does not seem as if they were created for actual decks, only for artistic purposes.
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2014, 10:42:38 AM »
 

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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2014, 11:04:40 AM »
 

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Who's the Queen of Clubs? She reminds me of one of the participants in Penn and Teller: Fool Us.

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She was the one from "Fool Us".
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2014, 01:06:34 PM »
 

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@Ellusionist: When @TomasHlavaty saw #Dealers and #Rounders, he was inspired to upgrade the court cards. http://t.co/GMu1QGODP6

I saw this yesterday when it first was tweeted. The upgrade looks really nice! I'm hoping we will see a full version on the v2 Dealers. It does not seem as if they were created for actual decks, only for artistic purposes.

Those are so much better than version 1!
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2014, 03:23:40 AM »
 

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make these court cards become gaffs more fun :)) D+M look like run out of idea to me
 

Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2014, 06:11:25 AM »
 

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make these court cards become gaffs more fun :)) D+M look like run out of idea to me

You sound like you love and hate them at the same time.  Perhaps adding those extra words and fiddly punctuation bits to make complete sentences will help...  :))
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2014, 09:05:34 AM »
 

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make these court cards become gaffs more fun :)) D+M look like run out of idea to me

You sound like you love and hate them at the same time.  Perhaps adding those extra words and fiddly punctuation bits to make complete sentences will help...  :))
haha, DM is still my idol - i like his style in Flourish and Magic, and i could like the redesigns of court cards if they are true, but bring out too much variation of colors and border/no borders is really annoys - no more new idea eh  :karrit: . what could be next ?! Reboot Rounders Series without border maybe  :-\ or maybe gold Rounder/Dealer ??? damn, i missed the first time i have fun with Player, now DM and E's just like vampire to me  :mindf-ck: money-thirsty
 

Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2014, 10:08:01 AM »
 

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New Tweet........."Coming Soon". I kind of still like the borderless version, not that these look bad, but I'm not a magician either  ;)
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2014, 10:31:53 AM »
 

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because of pts or that card is smaller than normal
 

Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2014, 11:00:11 AM »
 

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New Tweet........."Coming Soon". I kind of still like the borderless version, not that these look bad, but I'm not a magician either  ;)

A release date would be nice. "Coming Soon" does not tell us anything we did not already know. They are painfully dragging this along, even some of the latest DM tweets. We already know about the borders 3x. Poor utilization of social media on E's part, especially if they are retweeting DM's "border" tweet's already.

DM posing with a border patrol agent would have been classic!
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2014, 11:21:18 AM »
 

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haha, DM is still my idol - i like his style in Flourish and Magic, and i could like the redesigns of court cards if they are true, but bring out too much variation of colors and border/no borders is really annoys - no more new idea eh  :karrit: . what could be next ?! Reboot Rounders Series without border maybe  :-\ or maybe gold Rounder/Dealer ??? damn, i missed the first time i have fun with Player, now DM and E's just like vampire to me  :mindf-ck: money-thirsty

I met him two weeks ago in Brooklyn - he's a very nice fellow, quite personable.

I doubt the Rounders would be rebooted as borderless.

New Tweet........."Coming Soon". I kind of still like the borderless version, not that these look bad, but I'm not a magician either  ;)

A release date would be nice. "Coming Soon" does not tell us anything we did not already know. They are painfully dragging this along, even some of the latest DM tweets. We already know about the borders 3x. Poor utilization of social media on E's part, especially if they are retweeting DM's "border" tweet's already.

DM posing with a border patrol agent would have been classic!

I think that photo's kind of cool, actually.  Daniel has BIG hands - the card looks almost bridge-sized!

E doesn't drag these things out indefinitely - I'm thinking the new deck will be on sale before the month's end.
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2014, 11:38:27 AM »
 

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I think that photo's kind of cool, actually.  Daniel has BIG hands - the card looks almost bridge-sized!

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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2014, 03:00:28 PM »
 

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New Tweet........."Coming Soon". I kind of still like the borderless version, not that these look bad, but I'm not a magician either  ;)

A release date would be nice. "Coming Soon" does not tell us anything we did not already know. They are painfully dragging this along, even some of the latest DM tweets. We already know about the borders 3x. Poor utilization of social media on E's part, especially if they are retweeting DM's "border" tweet's already.

DM posing with a border patrol agent would have been classic!

These are being released on Wednesday to the general public. So Tuesday for black club members.
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2014, 04:26:16 PM »
 

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Can we assume that whatever the limited color is will be offered with a brick of the unlimited and/or with a new dvd they're releasing, or has it been specifically stated what they're doing?
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2014, 04:42:25 PM »
 

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Can we assume that whatever the limited color is will be offered with a brick of the unlimited and/or with a new dvd they're releasing, or has it been specifically stated what they're doing?

We can't assume. LOL The Black is the limited deck this time.

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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2014, 04:46:22 PM »
 

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It's possible Ellusionist might just sell them and not make them a freebie.
 

Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2014, 04:56:26 PM »
 

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It's possible Ellusionist might just sell them and not make them a freebie.

Personally I think I should get all my decks for free. Imagine that - Give a board member free swag for being positive about products. Something to think about! I think we have someone on our board like that already! lol Maybe?
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2014, 07:34:36 PM »
 

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It's possible Ellusionist might just sell them and not make them a freebie.

Personally I think I should get all my decks for free. Imagine that - Give a board member free swag for being positive about products. Something to think about! I think we have someone on our board like that already! lol Maybe?

I have no idea who you could possibly be talking about  :-\ Though I would guess that if someone did get free things he would return any favors 10 fold when he could!
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« Reply #45 on: February 17, 2014, 07:46:06 PM »
 

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It's possible Ellusionist might just sell them and not make them a freebie.

Personally I think I should get all my decks for free. Imagine that - Give a board member free swag for being positive about products. Something to think about! I think we have someone on our board like that already! lol Maybe?


What!!! I hearby declare that guys stuff the greatest stuff of that particular line of stuff.


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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #46 on: February 17, 2014, 07:49:48 PM »
 

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Speaking of marked decks, anyone check out the new Mechanic deck? It is also marked, for those interested.
 

Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2014, 01:14:43 AM »
 

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According to a response on Facebook, the blacks will be limited but not available with this deck, whatever that means? Not now or just not as a freebie? I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
 

Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2014, 02:15:01 AM »
 

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It's possible Ellusionist might just sell them and not make them a freebie.

Possible but unlikely.  E tends to go the freebie route more often than the sell-em-out route.  I can only remember sales for Red Artifice and Sultan Republic Treasury Edition.


Personally I think I should get all my decks for free. Imagine that - Give a board member free swag for being positive about products. Something to think about! I think we have someone on our board like that already! lol Maybe?

I've been known to get the odd freebie now and then, so yes, such people do exist on this board!  :))

Speaking of marked decks, anyone check out the new Mechanic deck? It is also marked, for those interested.

That's nice, Victor.  Perhaps you could start a new topic on this deck?  The Mechanic V2 has a full marking system this time, suits as well as values, and at least one gaff card meant to be used in concert with the Mechanic coins.  Pre-orders have been on for a little while at Penguin Magic and the release is sometime this week, if I remember correctly.

According to a response on Facebook, the blacks will be limited but not available with this deck, whatever that means? Not now or just not as a freebie? I guess we'll find out tomorrow.

What that probably means is that they won't be offering the black deck with the red one - y'know, "buy a brick of this color, get one of that color free"?  It could become a "for-sale" rare deck, as you mentioned, but it could also become a premium for minimum purchases of $XX.XX or more, or for sale only to the Black Club or something along those lines.  All of these are concepts for rare deck distribution they've used in the past.
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Re: [NEW] Madison Dealers V2 Scarlet & Black w/ Borders
« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2014, 01:49:40 PM »
 

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Ok. This "Limited Edition-Alternate Color" craze is getting really annoying.

The black design is the best one, in my opinion, but I definitely don't want to throw down the cash for one. Why not make a separate design the limited edition? Hell, why even have a limited edition? I can't remember the last time the last time they released a 2-colored deck where both colors were unlimited edition.

Then again, it could just be that once the black ones sell out, they're gone. But given every Daniel Madison deck Ellusionist has produced, that's unlikely.
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