Interlace Deck - Returning to KS soon..

[Don Boyer]

thanks for the advice... ill make sure to send a order without faces just to see how the backs look.

Why not use the company's standard faces? The deck will be useful that way.

[sastian]

LOL, that was what I had meant to say....

[sastian]

OK, back in the game, I was sick for the past few days...
Here's the progress today...
And as you can see I have taken kdklown's suggestion of integrating the suit into the lacework.

[sastian]

I've decided to plow through all the "black and whites before adding dimensions to the carvings... so with any further fanfare. The Man with the Axe

[sastian]

Going to bed late with the King of Spades in progress. Would love your feedback...

[popetown]

Ok, I'm a newbie on here and definitely have no experience with design or anything. I'm just here to subscribe and say: I want these cards!

I was thinking of doing a very basic deck design as a Christmas gift this year for my friends. Basic as in, use Bicycle's Zazzle connection to customize the backs only. After seeing your work, hah! I'm suddenly very overwhelmed and humbled. Haha!

[sastian]

Thanks for the feedback.  im hoping to have enough cards done to launch my first KS campaign in a week. Hopefully this is good timing.  any ideas on that? what is "too many" decks in the pipeline?  is there such a thing?

[kdklown]

I don't think its a matter of how many decks, it may be more important to dodge the Big Dogs as best you can.  It is however, I think,  a good idea to have just about all your art done prior to launch.  Also your project has to be cleared by KS first and that may not be immediate but may require some back and forth.  There are people on here that know a lot more about this than me but these are just some "tips" based on your questions.  You may want to reach out to Don for some direction or PM some of the designers on here.  They may or may not be willing to help you out.  If you already knew all this then never mind, please carry on. 

[Don Boyer]

Thanks for the feedback.  im hoping to have enough cards done to launch my first KS campaign in a week. Hopefully this is good timing.  any ideas on that? what is "too many" decks in the pipeline?  is there such a thing?

At one time in recent history, yes, there were lulls in-between new deck releases.

Not any more.  Wait for a lull, you'll be waiting for Kickstarter to go out of business.

Best that you can do is to TRY to find a window where a major deck release isn't currently "Kickstarting".  Major releases come from a handful of designer/artists: Encarded, Uusi, Kings and Crooks, Midnight, Kings Wild, maybe a few others.  There's no guarantee that a big release won't happen in the middle of your campaign, but if you've made a deck that's worth it, your backers will come, regardless.

[sastian]

Well should the backers allow, i fully plan to be one of those"Big Dogs." I do not have any plans to be a flash in the pan. Look out people. 

[Shebhnt]

Ok, I'm a newbie on here and definitely have no experience with design or anything. I'm just here to subscribe and say: I want these cards!

I was thinking of doing a very basic deck design as a Christmas gift this year for my friends. Basic as in, use Bicycle's Zazzle connection to customize the backs only. After seeing your work, hah! I'm suddenly very overwhelmed and humbled. Haha!

Just a note on this, but from the research I have done to get my own personal deck printed Zazzle seems to be overpriced and actually not as good as other custom printers.

[Don Boyer]

Ok, I'm a newbie on here and definitely have no experience with design or anything. I'm just here to subscribe and say: I want these cards!

I was thinking of doing a very basic deck design as a Christmas gift this year for my friends. Basic as in, use Bicycle's Zazzle connection to customize the backs only. After seeing your work, hah! I'm suddenly very overwhelmed and humbled. Haha!

Just a note on this, but from the research I have done to get my own personal deck printed Zazzle seems to be overpriced and actually not as good as other custom printers.

Zazzle's quality isn't as high, but they have the advantage of allowing for exceptionally small print runs, as little as a single deck, and they're authorized by USPC to use their official face designs, including their jokers and aces, for the Bicycle deck.  Nowhere else can you call your new supershort-run deck a Bicycle deck.

Let's not hijack this topic any further than we have - this is a discussion best left for another topic.  Please start a new one if you wish to discuss this further.

[sastian]

its all good conversation. no hijacking felt.
but since I'm here, here's another question: Im working on my tuckbox layout and wondering if USPCC will provide a vector of their brand/logo in order to comply with their trademark standards. or do they expect each artist to redraw that portion of the box?

[Don Boyer]

its all good conversation. no hijacking felt.
but since I'm here, here's another question: Im working on my tuckbox layout and wondering if USPCC will provide a vector of their brand/logo in order to comply with their trademark standards. or do they expect each artist to redraw that portion of the box?

To my knowledge, any time anyone's added a USPC brand to their deck, USPC were the ones to place the brand in the design.  There's also the matter of the approval process - it's more of a rubber-stamp review, but it is required and your design can get rejected by the brand manager for that brand, meaning you won't be able to use the brand for your deck.  The toughest hurdle tends to be USPC Legal, but they're usually slow in responding.  Just make certain that if you end up using any USPC trademark elements in your design, including but not limited to their card backs, unique Aces of Spades and unique Jokers, they have to be unaltered other than perhaps a change in color scheme or your project will be rejected by them and you'll have to redesign or cancel.

You really should be contacting USPC.  They have someone there who handles all Kickstarter decks, even while they're still in the design phase.  USPC policies have a tendency to change often, so better to get your information from the source in the present rather than relying on old or second-hand info.

[sastian]

Thanks for the info Don, Here's where I'll leave it untill I can get in contact with them.

[sastian]

Getting closer, talked with USPCC to get the bicycle version of the deck approved today. should have the confirmation just before launch!

[Don Boyer]

Good luck, and one final note: be prepared for backers to compare this back (or even confuse this back) with Celtic knots. 

[Shebhnt]

Getting closer, talked with USPCC to get the bicycle version of the deck approved today. should have the confirmation just before launch!

Hey make sure to let us know first if there is going to be any sweet early backing deals, either way though, this looks like something I will want to back.

[maggock]

I'll be backing this one - I love the design and the amount of work that went into the cards is amazing.  I do have a confession though - I rather like the hand drawn design more than the vectored work.  I guess I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff.

[sastian]

I've considered a second deck with the same design in the pencil form. maybe posters of the original sketches

[sastian]

Speaking of hand drawn vs. vector. I've gone back and forth with my partners in design and think i've found a bit of a compromise... take a look at the art on the cover of the tuck box that I've submitted to USPCC for legal approval...

[sastian]

heres another couple tidbits....


The green was put together with a preliminary sketch of the etching technique
, the final drawing is in the prior post...

[sastian]

Sound off! I need a head count for how many earlybird offers to make available. This is thecONLY forum I have used for development of this deck. so you get the exclusive.

[Shebhnt]

You can add a +1 for me

[maggock]

+1 for me, and I'm probably going to be the only person who votes for purple.    There are so few purple decks out there though and it's my favorite color!