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Shebhnt · « **Reply #75 on:** March 15, 2014, 03:21:27 PM »

Quote from: maggock on March 15, 2014, 03:10:54 PM

+1 for me, and I'm probably going to be the only person who votes for purple. There are so few purple decks out there though and it's my favorite color!

Purple is always my dad's favorite color, which doesn't always work out well when you have to drive a neon purple car to high school because of that fact...

jwats01 · « **Reply #76 on:** March 15, 2014, 07:33:43 PM »

I'll be supporting you with an early bird +...

sastian · « **Reply #77 on:** March 15, 2014, 09:08:28 PM »

Getting MUCH closer to launch!

sastian · « **Reply #78 on:** March 16, 2014, 02:06:14 AM »

the new direction on the back should provide for some interesting deck fans!

Don Boyer · « **Reply #79 on:** March 16, 2014, 02:12:47 AM »

Quote from: sastian on March 16, 2014, 02:06:14 AM

the new direction on the back should provide for some interesting deck fans!

Will you be repeating that line pattern on the front. where the lines go into the bleed?

Some magicians perform tricks that involve inverting a card in the middle of a pack without the spectator's knowledge. When doing so with a deck that's printed into the bleed but only on one side, especially if the pattern at the edge is a simple, non-repeating one such as this, will reveal an inverted card in the middle of the pack - it stands out, clearly noticeable.

The options to prevent this are to remove the print that goes into the bleed or to repeat the same pattern on the card fronts, being careful to insure that a card will look the same from the edge whether face-up or face-down. Alternately, you could use a small, repetitive pattern, something like the Bee Diamond Back or the Republic No. 02, to help camouflage it, though pulling it off requires a little more skill for the magician using the deck.

sastian · « **Reply #80 on:** March 16, 2014, 02:29:22 AM »

Glad you asked Don, I do actually plan to "wrap" that version to the front... I am considering a version with and without the band wrapping the cards if it doesnt work as planned BUT it is planned to continue to the face for exactly the reason you stated... it just depends how tightly the USPCC can get them to match up..

Don Boyer · « **Reply #81 on:** March 16, 2014, 05:12:42 AM »

Quote from: sastian on March 16, 2014, 02:29:22 AM

Glad you asked Don, I do actually plan to "wrap" that version to the front... I am considering a version with and without the band wrapping the cards if it doesnt work as planned BUT it is planned to continue to the face for exactly the reason you stated... it just depends how tightly the USPCC can get them to match up..

I'll tell you right off the bat, they won't get the registration perfect - they rarely do. They are more concerned with getting the back as good as they can get it, since that's the more important of the two sides to get centered. But despite that, it's still likely going to be good enough for what you need. The variations will be slight enough that it shouldn't cause any concern. It's good to discuss it with USPC, though.

Have you approached them yet? They have someone who handles Kickstarter decks before the project has even launched. It's good to have all the finer details tended to before you even apply for a project - that way, you don't end up with surprises. Even better, assuming you make no serious changes during the project's run, you'll be set to kick off printing the moment you get the funds. Hitting the ground running means you're more likely to reach your delivery deadline.

adelsan · « **Reply #82 on:** March 16, 2014, 09:34:52 AM »

I'd go with black intrtlace and white fills, I think it would realy make your art pop!

sastian · « **Reply #83 on:** March 16, 2014, 06:05:30 PM »

You mean like this? I've had this in my file for a few days, been playing with combinations... This is a VERY versatile deck.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #84 on:** March 17, 2014, 06:21:15 AM »

Quote from: sastian on March 16, 2014, 06:05:30 PM

You mean like this? I've had this in my file for a few days, been playing with combinations... This is a VERY versatile deck.

Well, don't go too crazy. I'd also recommend against making a "black deck" version without researching what's come before. They tend to wear out more quickly because of the edge-chipping that naturally takes place when handling cards - since there's white paper underneath, all those white chip markss will stand out like sore thumbs against the black-inked background.

Shebhnt · « **Reply #85 on:** March 17, 2014, 06:08:06 PM »

Quote from: sastian on March 16, 2014, 06:05:30 PM

You mean like this? I've had this in my file for a few days, been playing with combinations... This is a VERY versatile deck.

I use to really like black decks until the black on the edges started to chip away. Now I don't think I would get a black deck.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #86 on:** March 18, 2014, 01:52:08 AM »

Quote from: Shebhnt on March 17, 2014, 06:08:06 PM

Quote from: sastian on March 16, 2014, 06:05:30 PM
You mean like this? I've had this in my file for a few days, been playing with combinations... This is a VERY versatile deck.

I use to really like black decks until the black on the edges started to chip away. Now I don't think I would get a black deck.

Believe it or not, they're making a bit of a comeback. It's still a cool look. Sometimes the artist will make a thin border in white, sometimes they'll just go into the bleed. I guess that's what black Sharpie pens are for!

sastian · « **Reply #87 on:** March 18, 2014, 02:12:13 AM »

being very familiar with print production, i wouldn't consider printing a black card on anything other than true black paper... i have no idea if USPCC even has that capability.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #88 on:** March 18, 2014, 02:33:40 AM »

Quote from: sastian on March 18, 2014, 02:12:13 AM

being very familiar with print production, i wouldn't consider printing a black card on anything other than true black paper... i have no idea if USPCC even has that capability.

They do not. Black paper isn't so easy to print on using the presses and inks that they use. I have yet to see any black deck that was printed on true black paper, just black core paper (which is the paper used in all but the most cheaply-made paper playing card decks). Two layers of white paper sandwiched together with a graphite-laced glue in between to hold the layers together, add stiffness and eliminate translucency. Cheap cards without a black core can be held up to even a medium-power light (perhaps a 50W incandescent bulb or the fluorescent equivalent) and you can see the face shine through the back and vice versa.

sastian · « **Reply #89 on:** March 23, 2014, 04:41:37 AM »

working on an Ace of spades concept but i think im getting to complicated.
thought id share before starting over...

Shebhnt · « **Reply #90 on:** March 23, 2014, 07:41:59 AM »

I like it but seeing the sketch makes me which there was going to be a special "sketch" version of the deck.

sastian · « **Reply #91 on:** March 23, 2014, 12:16:02 PM »

that is something i can put into a stretch goal for sure

Don Boyer · « **Reply #92 on:** March 23, 2014, 08:46:23 PM »

Quote from: sastian on March 23, 2014, 04:41:37 AM

working on an Ace of spades concept but i think im getting to complicated.
thought id share before starting over...

That's not a bad spade, really. It's nice.

sastian · « **Reply #93 on:** March 27, 2014, 11:54:14 PM »

Editing video! man theres a ton of stuff to do to get this launched!

Jody Eklund · « **Reply #94 on:** March 30, 2014, 01:31:30 PM »

That is a nice Ace of Spades! Can't wait to see it finished. I think you should use it.

sastian · « **Reply #95 on:** April 01, 2014, 01:59:44 AM »

getting close to wrapping up the revised card back.. (the one that will match the treatment i gave the tuckbox....

popetown · « **Reply #96 on:** April 01, 2014, 12:07:09 PM »

Man, this is looking good. So this may be a silly question since you said it's still in progress. Are those 'shadows' I'd guess you call them, the little points coming out from under the background/underlay sections, on the top section of the card in progress and going to be on the bottom as well or are you looking to make some one-way effect to the backs?

sastian · « **Reply #97 on:** April 02, 2014, 04:55:09 PM »

correct, they are 'shadows' and yes it'll be on the whole back.. i just only do one side then rotate the design.. so that it's perfectly symmetrical. ( i dont want any "tells" in the design )

popetown · « **Reply #98 on:** April 02, 2014, 05:10:03 PM »

Ah, gotcha. Ok, I see, that makes perfect sense. Man, I'm getting excited to see this deck completed!

sastian · « **Reply #99 on:** April 02, 2014, 11:58:09 PM »

So after talking with the video editor, (and no thats not me thankfully) i believe we're gonna shoot one more bit of video tomorrow night for the pitch. Ill see if i can get photos from behind the scenes there as well.

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